News: Are the Dallas Cowboys satisfied at receiver?

JoeBoBBY

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With Gronk lighting it up doubt Escobar would receive many targets in NE. Scott Chandler the Pats other TE only has 23 catches for 259 yards but does have 4 TD's. The Pats had a real good one-two punch at TE with Gronk and Hernandez a few years ago especially in 2011 where Gronk put up over 1300 yards and Hernandez produced just over 900 yards but if Escobar was the talent Hernandez was he would have received many more opportunities in the passing game than he has. With Escobar only having 26 career receptions in his 3 seasons and not being utilized much in the passing game the team obviously doesn't see much in him. Hard to say what his potential might be but it certainly won't be fulfilled in Dallas where they've had little use for him.

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I don't want to use any of the top two picks on a receiver. If your scouting department is worth its salt, you should be able to find receivers in third round and below.

Look at the Steelers. They found Emmanuel Sanders in the third; Antonio Brown in the sixth, Martavis Bryant in the fourth.

The Pats found Julius Edelman in the seventh.

The Cardinals found J.J. Nelson in the fifth and John Brown in the third.

The Seahawks got Tyler Lockett in the third and Doug Baldwin and Jermaine Kearse as undrafted free agents.

We don't need to keep reaching high for wide receivers. We need to develop them better. Let's use high draft picks for other important positions.

Development appears to be a foreign word around Valley Ranch coaches are unable to decipher. Specifically on the offensive side.
 

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And you can bet Belichick will get more use out of him than us. Every TE we've parted with that we gave up a #2 for has produced for other teams. A complete waste of a premium draft pick.

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Like?????? Please don't say running back.

If Ezekiel Elliott is available after a trade down (if that's possible), I'm good taking him. If Derrick Henry is available with our second pick, I'm good taking him.

I think a running back is going to make a bigger impact than a receiver, particularly a bell-cow running back. We need a back like Zeke or Henry to return to the 2014 Cowboys offense and to protect Romo. Another receiving weapon just makes it more tempting to put more on Romo's shoulders, increasing the likelihood of injuries.

Besides, a top receiver is going to touch the ball less than 10 times a game. A top running back is going to touch the ball up to 20 times, maybe more.
And if we can get a back to give us the impact a Todd Gurley gave the Rams, with a quarterback like Romo, I definitely would invest a high pick in such a back.
 

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Development appears to be a foreign word around Valley Ranch coaches are unable to decipher. Specifically on the offensive side.

True. But I'm building a case to get Jason Garrett fired. If you can't devise a game plan that takes advantage of the available talent on your roster, if you can't bring in a backup quarterback to win you more than one game in place of your starter (especially when you yourself were a backup quarterback), if you can't develop your lower round (fourth and below) picks and if you need superstars across the board to win, what good are you as a coach?
 

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If Ezekiel Elliott is available after a trade down (if that's possible), I'm good taking him. If Derrick Henry is available with our second pick, I'm good taking him.

I think a running back is going to make a bigger impact than a receiver, particularly a bell-cow running back. We need a back like Zeke or Henry to return to the 2014 Cowboys offense and to protect Romo. Another receiving weapon just makes it more tempting to put more on Romo's shoulders, increasing the likelihood of injuries.

Besides, a top receiver is going to touch the ball less than 10 times a game. A top running back is going to touch the ball up to 20 times, maybe more.
And if we can get a back to give us the impact a Todd Gurley gave the Rams, with a quarterback like Romo, I definitely would invest a high pick in such a back.

I would rather sign Lamar Miller and use that first or second round pick on a WR or other position of need.
Elliot seems like a legit back but Henry looks like another 3 yards and a cloud of dust type of back. The guy was a straight line runner with little elusiveness.
 

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I would rather sign Lamar Miller and use that first or second round pick on a WR or other position of need.
Elliot seems like a legit back but Henry looks like another 3 yards and a cloud of dust type of back. The guy was a straight line runner with little elusiveness.

1. Running back isn't a position of need? :huh:

2. What makes you think Lamar Miller comes here? There will be other teams vying for his services.

3. Did DeMarco Murray have elusiveness? I don't recall him making many people miss either.

Look, I was one of these guys who thought we could line up anyone behind this line and not miss a beat. I'll admit, I was WRONG! I think McFadden did well. But his production was almost incidental. He didn't seem like a difference maker to me. And he still got hit with the injury bug and is going to be a year older.

I'd just rather get a back in the draft - one of the three studs this draft has to offer - Zeke, Henry or Collins.

It's interesting how well Terance Williams performed when we had a healthy quarterback and a bell-cow running back. I think the receivers will be fine, and I'm not opposed to picking up another in the lower rounds.

But we need a healthy Romo, a bell-cow running back and competent backup QB in that order for the offense.
 

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1. Running back isn't a position of need? :huh:

2. What makes you think Lamar Miller comes here? There will be other teams vying for his services.

3. Did DeMarco Murray have elusiveness? I don't recall him making many people miss either.

Look, I was one of these guys who thought we could line up anyone behind this line and not miss a beat. I'll admit, I was WRONG! I think McFadden did well. But his production was almost incidental. He didn't seem like a difference maker to me. And he still got hit with the injury bug and is going to be a year older.

I'd just rather get a back in the draft - one of the three studs this draft has to offer - Zeke, Henry or Collins.

It's interesting how well Terance Williams performed when we had a healthy quarterback and a bell-cow running back. I think the receivers will be fine, and I'm not opposed to picking up another in the lower rounds.

But we need a healthy Romo, a bell-cow running back and competent backup QB in that order for the offense.

Terrence Williams has proven to be a non factor without Dez. Sure a healthy Romo can help Williams look a little better but Dez is a physical receiver who could get another injury at any time.We need 2 quality WR's at all times. I am the opposite of you in that I laughed at people saying anyone could run behind this line....that being said..I absolutely agree that we need to do something at RB as well....the difference is I don't see Henry as being anything special. The guy won the Heisman and a national championship and is graded out as a 2nd round pick because he doesn't show the elusiveness to dominate at the next level.

I would prefer Lamar Miller over Henry straight up...now it also helps that Lamar Miller wouldn't cost a 1st or 2nd round pick..

Who to say he would come here? We can't know. We are just fans expressing hopes and opinions anyway.
 

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Terrence Williams has proven to be a non factor without Dez. Sure a healthy Romo can help Williams look a little better but Dez is a physical receiver who could get another injury at any time.We need 2 quality WR's at all times. I am the opposite of you in that I laughed at people saying anyone could run behind this line....that being said..I absolutely agree that we need to do something at RB as well....the difference is I don't see Henry as being anything special. The guy won the Heisman and a national championship and is graded out as a 2nd round pick because he doesn't show the elusiveness to dominate at the next level.

I would prefer Lamar Miller over Henry straight up...now it also helps that Lamar Miller wouldn't cost a 1st or 2nd round pick..

Who to say he would come here? We can't know. We are just fans expressing hopes and opinions anyway.

Fair enough. :)
 

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True. But I'm building a case to get Jason Garrett fired. If you can't devise a game plan that takes advantage of the available talent on your roster, if you can't bring in a backup quarterback to win you more than one game in place of your starter (especially when you yourself were a backup quarterback), if you can't develop your lower round (fourth and below) picks and if you need superstars across the board to win, what good are you as a coach?

Ouch! Harsh but true.

As I mentioned in another thread, maybe he needs to get fired so he can taste abject failure. Some very good coaches had been fired before they experienced success.

Garrett does not come across as smug and entitled but neither does he come across as humble nor introspective. I think he needs to take a good look at some of the things he does not do well and make changes. This is his make-or-break year.
 

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Antonio Brown

I so wanted to draft him

an NO with Devin Street
 

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I don't think we're set at WR even with Dez being healthy. He's a great red-zone threat, perhaps the best in the league, but he has a tendency to disappear between the 20s.

Between Witten getting older, T-Will reaching his ceiling where he is, and Beasley being way too inconsistent, I wouldn't mind it at all if we grabbed Treadwell with our first pick.
 

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I wouldn't mind spending a mid rounder on one. Hey, how about this, can we maybe draft a punt returner??

No..

we cannot draft a punt returner..

there..so stop asking.

If we did, he would also have to be the ball boy and 1st down marker guy as backup to afford him a roster spot.

They don't exist.

At least not for us.
 

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It's been obvious for the past several years that we'd much improved with another wideout with the ability to take the double-team pressure away from Dez and be constantly reliable. T-Will is outstanding upon occasion but his consistency has been sorely lacking. Additionally, Devin Street is just about as close to useless as a WR can be. Cole Beasley is outstanding in the short game but sorely lacking in providing downfield ability. I think someone like Laquon Treadwell could conceivably serve the Dallas offense extremely well, especially in the event that the staff decides to delay drafting a QB for a round later than the first.

Love treadwell but a QB is a much bigger need
That said there will be recievers in the 2nd and 3rd rounds who can help
 

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Hire the guy that scouts WRs for the Steelers.

As a GM.

Let's look @ the Steelers WRs...then ours.

Antonio Brown>Bryant
Martavis Bryant>T.Williams
Sammie Coates>B. Butler
Heyward Bay>Whitehead
Markus Wheaton>Beasley

It's not even close. Terrence Williams would make a decent #4..Beasely is probably a KR/#5....We need a true #2:rolleyes:
 

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Funny to me how you worded that... so what's your plan to find out if Butler can be an impact player before the draft?

That is up to the coaches to decide. He looked decent those last couple of games. How has he looked in practice? Does he show the mental make up to be a starter? Does he show the ability to be a impact player? Does he know the play book? Those type of questions need answered and the general public has no clue how the team honestly feels about him. That is why I said 'if'.
 

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And you can bet Belichick will get more use out of him than us. Every TE we've parted with that we gave up a #2 for has produced for other teams. A complete waste of a premium draft pick.

Not while he's on IR.
 
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