Are the players potentially showing their disgust with the ridiculous contract paid Dak?

[Big_D]

Do people actually think every player in the league is supposed to be happy when a QB is vastly overpaid while some positions are making shekels in comparison? I get that it's the nature of the business, but the evolution of the NFL pay grade can't be leaving players thrilled. You think all RBs are excited Dak is making 60 mil a year? LOL Or Linemen who take a beating on every play? I can certainly see on a team that can't get over the hump that players "might" take offense to a pay raise of that magnitude when the FO is pretty tight under most other circumstances.

 

[XXLMike]

Are the players potentially showing their disgust with the ridiculous contract paid Dak and letting Jerry know by playing to a much different level for Rush? I don't know that answer but it bears some consideration. Dak "says" all the right stuff and then basically takes the money with no regard for team building. For the short term, I'd rather see Rush and his NFL second-best quick release (2.3 seconds) than Dak taking a week to read defenses and holding the ball until sundown. Getting rid of it makes up for a lot of deficiency in the OL and at WR. Rush is not the "answer." But, he's more the answer than Dak who has this team in contract purgatory.

Perhaps the rest of the team (the little people), agree?

Good post - good question and the answer will come to fruition next year.

But the players rally around Rush.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The players have eyes. They know he chokes in the big games, and will never be That Guy that leads them to a SuperBowl. So the players are forced to simply evolve into playing 100% for money. CeeDee might know Dak is a top 20 type guy, but if he force feeds him 110 catches a year (even if it's Garbage Time), he'll be content enough, but the rest of the players not so much. Certainly not the coaches... they know Dak will eventually get them fired. The players, like the fans, know in September how a Dak-lead team will ultimately end any given year, which leads them to being guys that just play for checks. History speaks for itself.

You just described 29 teams in NFL.

Does what you say even make sense?

It sounds like middle school girls locker room drama.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Do people actually think every player in the league is supposed to be happy when a QB is vastly overpaid while some positions are making shekels in comparison? I get that it's the nature of the business, but the evolution of the NFL pay grade can't be leaving players thrilled. You think all RBs are excited Dak is making 60 mil a year? LOL Or Linemen who take a beating on every play? I can certainly see on a team that can't get over the hump that players "might" take offense to a pay raise of that magnitude when the FO is pretty tight under most other circumstances.

There are 10 QBs that make 52M plus.

So 10 teams players are unhappy? Ok they can just stop playing football and go grab a hammer and hit nails for a living.

 

[Big_D]

There are 10 QBs that make 52M plus.

So 10 teams players are unhappy? Ok they can just stop playing football and go grab a hammer and hit nails for a living.

Not just 50 and over. The pay scale ratio from the QB position to everything else is severely warped. Should it be higher?.. yes, should it be to such a ridiculous degree?.. nope! and you can bet there are players not happy about it. Specially in a league that revolves around money. Anyone thinking this is some kind of love fest where all players are tickled when someone gets overpaid is fooling themselves. Go find another line of work? That's the answer? LOL

 

[Typhus]

I respect you enough to read your posts and not call you out much, but come on KJJ, when teammates recognize who the largest problem on this team is it is quite obvious to anyone
that is even moderately paying attention without Dak love blinders on.
It's not all Daks fault Jerry is as much to blame for paying the salary cap anomaly for repeated failure.

 

[KJJ]

I respect you enough to read your posts and not call you out much, but come on KJJ, when teammates recognize who the largest problem on this team is it is quite obvious to anyone
that is even moderately paying attention without Dak love blinders on.
It's not all Daks fault Jerry is as much to blame for paying the salary cap anomaly for repeated failure.

Where are you getting that the players have realized that Dak is the largest problem on this team? How is it obvious to everyone? Have you heard it from the players? Those of you who hate him are the ones with blinders on. This thread is complete nonsense.

 

[KJJ]

I respect you enough to read your posts and not call you out much, but come on KJJ, when teammates recognize who the largest problem on this team is it is quite obvious to anyone

Fans who honestly think the players are fighting and going all out to win games because they’re showing their disgust for the contract paid to Dak would have to be completely off the rockers. lol C’mon get real! For your sake I hope you don’t really believe that.

 

[Johannes44]

Is Dak likes in the locker room? Yea I believe he is.

Is he respected? That one is a harder question

 

[KingCorcoran]

"Disgust" may be too heavy a word to use.
However, players understand there is a salary cap.
They can view a "pie chart" and easily see where the QB
is taking quite a slice. Once you get passed the WR and a top pass rusher, it's easy to figure you're not gonna get much pie unless you go somewhere else.
Dak is not the leader he is portrayed to be. This happens a lot in every sport. The light shines bright in Dallas.

Just because one player on your team has a comparatively large piece of the “pie” doesn’t mean another player is going to earn less. Every player in the NFL makes as much as an owner offers. Every player understands the consequences of playing in the NFL, physically, emotionally, and financially before they sign their first contract.

If they choose to play for an NFL team they are subject to the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the players and owners. Nothing in the CBA requires any player to continue to play if they are not comfortable with the NFL and their place in it. Any Cowboys player that feels Dak’s contract makes playing for the Cowboys untenable they can walk away. The only reason they’re a member of the Cowboys is because they signed a contract with the team. If they decide to stay with the team, but give less than maximum effort, consciously or unconsciously, none of their teammates or the players on the other 31 teams will want them.

The NFL is professional football. It’s personal to fans, not to players.

 

[Johannes44]

Do people actually think every player in the league is supposed to be happy when a QB is vastly overpaid while some positions are making shekels in comparison? I get that it's the nature of the business, but the evolution of the NFL pay grade can't be leaving players thrilled. You think all RBs are excited Dak is making 60 mil a year? LOL Or Linemen who take a beating on every play? I can certainly see on a team that can't get over the hump that players "might" take offense to a pay raise of that magnitude when the FO is pretty tight under most other circumstances.

Agreed, there is always going to be a modicum of jealousy that pops up.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

The old saying "A rising tide floats all boats" applies (imho) here.

Are players jealous of Dak's $60 million a year? I'm sure some are, that's just human nature.

But qbs have been paid far more than any other position for decades now, ever since Joe Willie's $400,000 contract with the Jets. So if any player is jealous he's been living under a rock since birth, they know how things are in the NFL.

But the more Dak gets paid (and other qbs) the easier it is for cornerbacks, safeties, LTs, etc. to ask for big money.

So no, I don't think any substantial number of Dallas players are disgusted with Dak's money.

 

[Johannes44]

The old saying "A rising tide floats all boats" applies (imho) here.

Are players jealous of Dak's $60 million a year? I'm sure some are, that's just human nature.

But qbs have been paid far more than any other position for decades now, ever since Joe Willie's $400,000 contract with the Jets. So if any player is jealous he's been living under a rock since birth, they know how things are in the NFL.

But the more Dak gets paid (and other qbs) the easier it is for cornerbacks, safeties, LTs, etc. to ask for big money.

So no, I don't think any substantial number of Dallas players are disgusted with Dak's money.

Any leader of men will tell you that they flat out don’t care if they are liked by the people they lead. What matters is that you are respected. I’m sure there are players who are jealous about what Mahomes makes. But they respect him and that at the end of the day is what matters.

 

[RoboQB]

Just because one player on your team has a comparatively large piece of the “pie” doesn’t mean another player is going to earn less. Every player in the NFL makes as much as an owner offers. Every player understands the consequences of playing in the NFL, physically, emotionally, and financially before they sign their first contract.

If they choose to play for an NFL team they are subject to the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the players and owners. Nothing in the CBA requires any player to continue to play if they are not comfortable with the NFL and their place in it. Any Cowboys player that feels Dak’s contract makes playing for the Cowboys untenable they can walk away. The only reason they’re a member of the Cowboys is because they signed a contract with the team. If they decide to stay with the team, but give less than maximum effort, consciously or unconsciously, none of their teammates or the players on the other 31 teams will want them.

The NFL is professional football. It’s personal to fans, not to players.

Do you hear yourself?
It absolutely means they're going to earn less.
My comment stated that essentially 3 players get paid.
The QB, WR and (most teams) Pass Rusher.
They dictate how much PIE is left for the rest of the roster. After that, it's where do you want to put your money. It's not personal. It's basic math.
Either way, I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. I just thought you deserved a response.

 

[RoboQB]

The old saying "A rising tide floats all boats" applies (imho) here.

Are players jealous of Dak's $60 million a year? I'm sure some are, that's just human nature.

But qbs have been paid far more than any other position for decades now, ever since Joe Willie's $400,000 contract with the Jets. So if any player is jealous he's been living under a rock since birth, they know how things are in the NFL.

But the more Dak gets paid (and other qbs) the easier it is for cornerbacks, safeties, LTs, etc. to ask for big money.

So no, I don't think any substantial number of Dallas players are disgusted with Dak's money.

I remember when Terry Bradshaw was pissed that John Elway was going to make $1 million as a rookie. He was incensed.

 

[RoboQB]

Any leader of men will tell you that they flat out don’t care if they are liked by the people they lead. What matters is that you are respected. I’m sure there are players who are jealous about what Mahomes makes. But they respect him and that at the end of the day is what matters.

The thing about Mahomes is, he's building everyone's portfolio. Putting playoff money in every player's pocket.
Super Bowls look real good on any resume.
Players respect him because he can walk the walk.
Nobody respects a fraud.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Do you hear yourself?
It absolutely means they're going to earn less.
My comment stated that essentially 3 players get paid.
The QB, WR and (most teams) Pass Rusher.
They dictate how much PIE is left for the rest of the roster. After that, it's where do you want to put your money. It's not personal. It's basic math.
Either way, I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. I just thought you deserved a response.

No. Players are paid based on what an owner thinks they’re worth, not on what another player is paid. Every player on the Cowboys agreed to play for what they signed for. Jerry Jones still had room to pay more to players and remain under the mandated salary cap. Players that believe they can make more elsewhere will finish out their existing deal and move on.

There has not been a mass exodus of players from the Cowboys even though the team owner didn’t pay players all he could have. Players are more likely to want to play for a team with a great quarterback that is highly paid than the other way around.

 

[RoboQB]

No. Players are paid based on what an owner thinks they’re worth, not on what another player is paid. Every player on the Cowboys agreed to play for what they signed for. Jerry Jones still had room to pay more to players and remain under the mandated salary cap. Players that believe they can make more elsewhere will finish out their existing deal and move on.

There has not been a mass exodus of players from the Cowboys even though the team owner didn’t pay players all he could have. Players are more likely to want to play for a team with a great quarterback that is highly paid than the other way around.

I'm not really sure what your gripe is about my initial comment. Not every team has a QB taking +25% of cap money. Players don't stick around when they can be paid more elsewhere. Look at the Washington roster and count the former Cowboys on that team.
Dorace Armstrong is a good example. Solid player that knew he wasn't gettin' paid in Dallas so he bailed when his contract was up. Only a year later, DLaw has played his final game in Dallas. They have one rookie in Kneeland to replace him and journeyman 1 year signings to fill the DL rotation.
I never said it was emotional, or personal, it's business.
Players know. And if they don't, their agents do.
As for players wanting to play with great QBs, well that's interesting because I don't exactly hear teammates gushing over #4.

 

[kskboys]

I'm not really sure what your gripe is about my initial comment. Not every team has a QB taking +25% of cap money. Players don't stick around when they can be paid more elsewhere. Look at the Washington roster and count the former Cowboys on that team.
Dorace Armstrong is a good example. Solid player that knew he wasn't gettin' paid in Dallas so he bailed when his contract was up. Only a year later, DLaw has played his final game in Dallas. They have one rookie in Kneeland to replace him and journeyman 1 year signings to fill the DL rotation.
I never said it was emotional, or personal, it's business.
Players know. And if they don't, their agents do.
As for players wanting to play with great QBs, well that's interesting because I don't exactly hear teammates gushing over #4.

Paying Dak and Lamb and Diggs and soon Parsons costs you good players like Armstrong. Very tough choices.

 

[kskboys]

No. Players are paid based on what an owner thinks they’re worth, not on what another player is paid. Every player on the Cowboys agreed to play for what they signed for. Jerry Jones still had room to pay more to players and remain under the mandated salary cap. Players that believe they can make more elsewhere will finish out their existing deal and move on.

There has not been a mass exodus of players from the Cowboys even though the team owner didn’t pay players all he could have. Players are more likely to want to play for a team with a great quarterback that is highly paid than the other way around.

No, the entire pay scale is based on what others have been paid.