Are the players potentially showing their disgust with the ridiculous contract paid Dak?

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Not just 50 and over. The pay scale ratio from the QB position to everything else is severely warped. Should it be higher?.. yes, should it be to such a ridiculous degree?.. nope! and you can bet there are players not happy about it. Specially in a league that revolves around money. Anyone thinking this is some kind of love fest where all players are tickled when someone gets overpaid is fooling themselves. Go find another line of work? That's the answer? LOL
they may not be happy, but they have no choice. it is what it is. if they don't play hard enough, be one of the better ones in their respective position, then they don't get the big contract. the alternative for them is regular job like the rest of us at 10th the pay or less.

you make it sound as if there is jealousy, as there is more about competition. not only that, the discrepency of top tier players in any respective position is large for all positions. you think other WRs are happy that jefferson gets 35M and they get peanuts? how about CD? you might say those guys produce. but does Amari cooper on Bills deserve 20M a year any longer? are players jealous of him? Godwin makes 20M, but he is 61st in receiving.
so the same argument goes for every team and almost every position, but you are of course sensitive to cowboys contracts and bias on Dak (not saying its wrong or right, but there is a bias).

top 12 RBs make 11M and more, while the rest are middling. top RB makes 19M....as RB position has been diminished and teams often tend to have RB by committee
top TE, Kelce makes 17M.....
top Tackle makes 28M
top edge player makes 34 M
top DT makes 31M
top WR makes 35M (highest none QB)

so there is plenty of money being thrown at a lot of players, but QB obviously is outpacing everybody else and its the market for QBs that's created by the league as their own doing.
the league purposely pushed to emphasize passing game, to get more scoring, because scoring brings in more fans. that was their way of growing the pie. thus it emphasized need for QB and thus the market.
there are 15 QBs making 40M or more.
there are 18 QBs making 33M or more

there are 100 players making 20M or more in the league.
but also that the league is full of Jags, who are fighting to just stay on a team and make some money. most of the players are Jags literally, and this is a star driven league. stars get paid.

the league is just eschewed and at some point, there maybe a salary adjustment, but not in foreseeable future.
 

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Where are you getting that the players have realized that Dak is the largest problem on this team? How is it obvious to everyone? Have you heard it from the players? Those of you who hate him are the ones with blinders on. This thread is complete nonsense. :rolleyes:
I mean its obvious. you can just see it on TV, after the 9th beer and four shots, anyone can see it clearly.
 

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Are the players potentially showing their disgust with the ridiculous contract paid Dak and letting Jerry know by playing to a much different level for Rush? I don't know that answer but it bears some consideration. Dak "says" all the right stuff and then basically takes the money with no regard for team building. For the short term, I'd rather see Rush and his NFL second-best quick release (2.3 seconds) than Dak taking a week to read defenses and holding the ball until sundown. Getting rid of it makes up for a lot of deficiency in the OL and at WR. Rush is not the "answer." But, he's more the answer than Dak who has this team in contract purgatory.

Perhaps the rest of the team (the little people), agree?
I don't think the Dak situation has anything to do with it. Did they play to a different level the first 2 games Rush started? No they got blown out and played terribly.

With that said they have shown improvement over the last 5 games. Despite the injuries we've seen growth from the younger guys, we've seen the resemblance of a run game, and I think the defense is showing a greater understanding of Zimmer's defense.
 

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I don't think the Dak situation has anything to do with it. Did they play to a different level the first 2 games Rush started? No they got blown out and played terribly.

With that said they have shown improvement over the last 5 games. Despite the injuries we've seen growth from the younger guys, we've seen the resemblance of a run game, and I think the defense is showing a greater understanding of Zimmer's defense.
:popcorn::hammer:
 

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No, the entire pay scale is based on what others have been paid.
In that case, the Cowboys on minimum contracts should be thrilled Prescott is paid $60 million AAV. According to you, if Jerry had more money to spend he could afford to replace them with a better player.
 

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No. They want to win, and to think they'd play that much harder for Rush, means they're not playing their best with Dak. If that were the case, I wouldn't want any of them on the team.
These are humans too even if they are highpaid professionals.

You cant give it your all on a constant basis when you know that the most important player is a bum and you so are not able to win anyways.
There is a reason good players leaving this team.

See now with Rush what a minor change at qb does to the moral of the team.
 

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Are the players potentially showing their disgust with the ridiculous contract paid Dak and letting Jerry know by playing to a much different level for Rush? I don't know that answer but it bears some consideration. Dak "says" all the right stuff and then basically takes the money with no regard for team building. For the short term, I'd rather see Rush and his NFL second-best quick release (2.3 seconds) than Dak taking a week to read defenses and holding the ball until sundown. Getting rid of it makes up for a lot of deficiency in the OL and at WR. Rush is not the "answer." But, he's more the answer than Dak who has this team in contract purgatory.

Perhaps the rest of the team (the little people), agree?
I don’t think that’s how these players are programmed. They all want to be paid. They don’t care who pays it. These guys don’t care because they know if they do what they are suppose to do someone will pay them. These guys aren’t playing hard for McCarthy or Rush. They are playing hard for their next contract.
 

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if only Jerry didn't have Dak he would be a winner..history proves this...just look at 1996 thru 2015..Dak been ruining this franchise since 1996..jesus HOW IN THE HELL do some of you still not know what the problem is?
 

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These are humans too even if they are highpaid professionals.

You cant give it your all on a constant basis when you know that the most important player is a bum and you so are not able to win anyways.
There is a reason good players leaving this team.

See now with Rush what a minor change at qb does to the moral of the team.
What good player left this team? Dalton Schultz? You guys give these guys too much credit. These guys club and party after getting drilled lol. These guys don’t care as much as you think because of they did they wouldn’t play for Dallas.

I’m a Dak and Lamb fan but you think they really care about winning?
 

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if only Jerry didn't have Dak he would be a winner..history proves this...just look at 1996 thru 2015..Dak been ruining this franchise since 1996..jesus HOW IN THE HELL do some of you still not know what the problem is?
They are so brainwashed at times I wonder how Jerry gets away with what he does then I read this forum and I realize we are dealing with different creatures lol
 

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I don't think it has anything to do with the contract. One thing that was apparent during the first 8 games was this team had a morale problem and just looked lethargic, totally undisciplined and uninspired. That changed when Rush came in...you can all draw your own conclusions as to why.
It didn’t though. Did you see the Philly game?

It changed when the pressure got off of them. That simple. This is the Cowboys MO for 28 years. When the pressure is off you get their best football.

It’s troublesome the fans are drinking the kool aid again. This is a poorly ran team and they are still bad as the 3-5 time. The pressure is off.
 

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More energy, especially late in the game due to not having to stay on the field for long periods of time.
Time of possession was nearly the same. 5/15 on 3rd down. And, 4 FGs. The defense and the kicker saved the day.
 

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if only Jerry didn't have Dak he would be a winner..history proves this...just look at 1996 thru 2015..Dak been ruining this franchise since 1996..jesus HOW IN THE HELL do some of you still not know what the problem is?
You lean on this massively over-generalized schtick way to hard. It makes you look sophomoric.

There are multiple aspects to the overall operation and performance of an NFL organization. Obviously the top level decision making has a large impact. So does the performance of the most valuable assets, however. Once you get past the responsibility of the top decision makers for keeping and paying those assets, the rest of the responsibility for the performance of those assets falls directly in their individual laps.

Your consistent pattern of ignoring certain problem areas with the "it's all Jerry's fault" excuse isn't consistent with what would be considered an objective thought process.

The irony is what got my attention. lol
 

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You lean on this massively over-generalized schtick way to hard. It makes you look sophomoric.

There are multiple aspects to the overall operation and performance of an NFL organization. Obviously the top level decision making has a large impact. So does the performance of the most valuable assets, however. Once you get past the responsibility of the top decision makers for keeping and paying those assets, the rest of the responsibility for the performance of those assets falls directly in their individual laps.

Your consistent pattern of ignoring certain problem areas with the "it's all Jerry's fault" excuse isn't consistent with what would be considered an objective thought process.

The irony is what got my attention. lol
again this isnt a one time thing with one group of coaches, players ect...i find it funny you use "Sophmoric" as you dismiss the most "Sophomoric" of deductive reasoning...if the current players/coaches are the problem and the last group and the last group..then tell me genius...whats the proble over SEVERAL decades of diferent players and coaches ALL comming to the same end with the Owner/GM dou we have? You dont like the players, i dont care it doesnt change the fact the problem starts and ends with the only thing that has been constant over the last 29 years of the same results...."I dont like Dak...your dumb if you dont like Dak" hmmm that doesnt seem like a brilliant analysis to me maybe thats the problem you're using Freshmoric logic...
 

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These are humans too even if they are highpaid professionals.

You cant give it your all on a constant basis when you know that the most important player is a bum and you so are not able to win anyways.
There is a reason good players leaving this team.

See now with Rush what a minor change at qb does to the moral of the team.
If Rush were better than Dak, I'd lend some credence to the possibility that they're playing harder because he gives them a better chance to win...but he's not better than Dak. Or at least, he's not better than Dak was before this season.

At most, I'd say they might play harder for Rush because Rush needs them to.

But I think the best and most likely explanation is that you've got guys getting their first opportunities to show what they can do, and impress the Cowboys, and other teams, who may want to sign them as starters, if they show enough potential.
 
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