Arkansas definately got screwed

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Thank goodness the Big 12 officiating isnt that bad. It sucks, but when compared to that of the SEC, the Big 12 refs are Godsends.

BTW, if you think the SEC refs are bad, you should see the 27 5A refs down here in Texas, they are the worst HS refs ever.
 

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all our okie fans will also atest to the awfulness of the pac ten officials, its like they are trying to become the NBA
 

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MC KAos;3024798 said:
all our okie fans will also atest to the awfulness of the pac ten officials, its like they are trying to become the NBA

Didn't Oklahoma win that game? Didn't the calls go against Oregon? I can't remember.

All I know is, I have never seen a team get home cookin from the refs to the degree that the Oklahoma Sooners do. Not the Pittsburgh Steelers, not the Patriots, not the Eagles, not the Giants, not the Colts, not the Gators, Longhorns, Trojans, Fighting Irish, Buckeyes, Wolverines, etc....Not even the Dwayne Wade, in the NBA Finals, gets the kind of love from the refs that the Sooners do in Norman.

Still the NCAA needs to step in and take charge of this crew. They have now had a decisive impact on two vital games this season....and in both games, they were completely in the wrong.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3023616 said:
Three consecutive calls at the end when Florida was down by 7.


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Just another reason the SEC is a better conference than the Big12. SEC refs help to win MNC.


Big12 refs, ehh not so much:



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Biggems;3024802 said:
Didn't Oklahoma win that game? Didn't the calls go against Oregon? I can't remember.

All I know is, I have never seen a team get home cookin from the refs to the degree that the Oklahoma Sooners do. Not the Pittsburgh Steelers, not the Patriots, not the Eagles, not the Giants, not the Colts, not the Gators, Longhorns, Trojans, Fighting Irish, Buckeyes, Wolverines, etc....Not even the Dwayne Wade, in the NBA Finals, gets the kind of love from the refs that the Sooners do in Norman.

Still the NCAA needs to step in and take charge of this crew. They have now had a decisive impact on two vital games this season....and in both games, they were completely in the wrong.

no it was oklahoma that got jobbed on a fumble that they had clearly recovered. also i would argue that tech gets a lot more calls from refs at home, they were holding orakpo last year like crazy and no calls
 

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I'm a bit of an Arkansas fan because I've had family attend the school.

1. The PI was a good call. He put his hands on the receivers chest before he turned to locate the ball. That's a PI.

2. The personal foul was a terrible call. I just don't think it would have made any difference. It's not like it was 4th down and it saved the drive. Florida was likely going to score anyway.

3. The spot was perfect. The problem is that the TV's yellow line was incorrect. The yellow line is crossing the 18 yard line. The ball is spotted at the 19 yard line. When they pull out the chains, the first down line is at the 19 yard line where the ball is spotted. The yellow was just a yard too long. Thus, it looked short compared to the yellow line, but not the actual first down marker.

They got screwed on the personal foul call and that's it.
 

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The pass interference was a poor call, especially since the ball was uncatchable.

The personal foul was an atricious call.

The spot of the ball was, IMHO, a fair call. First of all, it doesn't get spotted where his knee went down - it gets spotted where the ball is when he knee went down. It may have been a generous spot, but not egregiously so. Second of all, the yellow first down line that we see at home is clearly way the heck off, by at least a full yard. I think that adds to the confusion. So yeah, he was short of the yellow line but that doesn't matter one bit.
 

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Florida is a big market for tv. If anybody has watched the Yankees this postseason you'd understand.
 

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Rogah;3026994 said:
The pass interference was a poor call, especially since the ball was uncatchable.
That pass is most certainly catchable.
 

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theogt;3027784 said:
That pass is most certainly catchable.

No, I don't think so. The WR would have had to go through the DB to catch that ball, which would have been defensive pass interference. I don't think the ball was catchable, for the WR, either.
 

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Wow, first time I saw these. No wonder those regs got suspended. There should be some investigation into any unusual betting on this game. That was insane...
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3029183 said:
Notre Dame gets the same in every game it plays at South Bend


Don't know about that. Last week vs USC, at the end of the game there was very close call. TE caught the ball and it was ruled that he was out of bounds. No question it was a catch. The question was, was did he have control before he was out of bounds. Close call that went the way of the Trojans in South Bend. That call would have either tied the game or won it depending.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3028218 said:
No, I don't think so. The WR would have had to go through the DB to catch that ball, which would have been defensive pass interference. I don't think the ball was catchable, for the WR, either.
It was slightly more than arm's length away from the receiver.

That's catchable.
 

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theogt;3029444 said:
It was slightly more than arm's length away from the receiver.

That's catchable.

I agree, I thought it was catchable, too. I don't think it was pass interference.

Three bad calls. I doubt there is any type of conspiracy or anything like that. The officiating is just poor and not only in the SEC. There seems to be bad calls every week in college and the pros. Couple that with some bad rules that the refs have to adhere to and you get some weird things happening.
 

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joseephuss;3029456 said:
I agree, I thought it was catchable, too. I don't think it was pass interference.

Three bad calls. I doubt there is any type of conspiracy or anything like that. The officiating is just poor and not only in the SEC. There seems to be bad calls every week in college and the pros. Couple that with some bad rules that the refs have to adhere to and you get some weird things happening.
It's pass interference because the defender has his hands on the receiver's chest before turning to face the ball. Most often, that's going to be PI. It's not flagrant, but it's PI.

The spot was perfect. Almost to the inch. I think they should have only suspended the one ref that through the PF. That was horrible.

But those other two calls were good calls.
 

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theogt;3029533 said:
It's pass interference because the defender has his hands on the receiver's chest before turning to face the ball. Most often, that's going to be PI. It's not flagrant, but it's PI.

The spot was perfect. Almost to the inch. I think they should have only suspended the one ref that through the PF. That was horrible.

But those other two calls were good calls.

Well, we can disagree on the P.I.

The spot was short. I don't care about the yellow line. I know it was short of that, but just looking at where they spotted the ball and where Tebow was tackled does not match. Tebow went down a good half yard from the where the ball was spotted. They didn't spot the ball where it was when Tebow's knee was down. They gave him the ball location from where is whole body fell down following his knee already touching.

The worst part of the personal foul was the one official was closer to the play and watched both players come at each other. He was not the guy who threw the flag. An official off camera threw the flag. That is when the officials need to meet and discuss what happened and rectify it. That is why more than just one guy needed to be suspended. They had a chance to correct that call and they didn't.
 

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theogt;3029444 said:
It was slightly more than arm's length away from the receiver.

That's catchable.

If your the WR, how do you make that catch without offensive interference?
 
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