Arkin watch

[burmafrd]

and it was also our best half with our 1st team offense, it was so good that Romo and most of the 1st teamers got sat early.

against one of the worst teams in the league

 

[theogt]

and it was also our best half with our 1st team offense, it was so good that Romo and most of the 1st teamers got sat early.

This is 100% the problem that people have. You've completely embodied how flawed many fans' analysis is when speaking as to individual players. By and large, most people cannot separate an individual's performance from the team's performance. If the team does well, and someone criticizes a player, it's shouted down. And if the team does poorly, and someone defends a player's performance, they're shouted down.

That kind of thinking was the reason we had to suffer through a season of Alan Ball at safety. When he replaced Hamlin in 2009 for a few games, the defense -- which was otherwise outstanding -- masked Alan Ball's horrid performance in those few games. The very few of us that pointed it out were shouted down and told to give the guy a chance.

I couldn't care less how the team performed as a whole when I'm analyzing an individual player's performance.

 

[burmafrd]

This is precisely, 100% the problem that people have. You've completely embodied how flawed many fans' analysis is when speaking as to individual players. By and large, most people cannot separate an individual's performance from the team's performance. If the team does well, and someone criticizes a player, it's shouted down. And if the team does poorly, and someone defends a players' performance, they're shouted down.

That kind of thinking was the reason we had to suffer through a season of Alan Ball at safety. When he replaced Hamlin in 2009 for a few games, the defense -- which was otherwise outstanding -- masked Alan Ball's horrid performance in those few games. The very few of us that pointed it out were shouted down and told to give the guy a chance.

I couldn't care less how the team performed as a whole when I'm analyzing an individual player's performance.

Alan Ball - Phil Costa

in both cases we saved money and found out that sometimes you pay in other ways

 

[theogt]

Alan Ball - Phil Costa

in both cases we saved money and found out that sometimes you pay in other ways

Very true. While I think Costa can be a solid player for us, I was livid when we cut Gurode.

 

[CowboyChris]

This was far and away his worst game of the preseason.

was it? last week he gave up a sack and had 3 penalties, 2 of which were very iffy, are you watching closely?

 

[theogt]

was it? last week he gave up a sack and had 3 penalties, 2 of which were very iffy, are you watching closely?

No, of course I'm not watching and analyzing every single play. It's apparent I'm just speaking off the cuff, isn't it?

Stop looking at a stat sheet and watch the damn games.

This guy is so weak it's unbelievable. On the first play of the game he was nearly pancaked, even with Mack coming over to help him out.

Check out this play. First try and find where all of the other interior linemen are on the field after the snap. Then find Arkin. How far did he get pushed back? Luckily Murray makes a nice cutback and gets a first down.

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People are giving Tyron Smith a hard time for this game. On the third play of the game, Robert Quinn runs around the outside of Smith and comes from behind Tony to force the ball away. But the reality is, Smith didn't *NEED* to worry about Quinn looping out that far and running behind the QB, because the QB should be able to step up into the pocket.

Why couldn't Tony step up into the pocket on that play? Take a look at Arkin and then take a look at where the defender that Arkin was blocking is located. What would have happened had Tony tried to step up in the pocket?

Three plays into the game and you have three absolutely putrid blocks by Arkin.

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Here's another fun picture. This is the first play of our second drive. Literally less than a full second had passed since the snap. Imagine if this wasn't a toss sweep to Murray and instead a 5 step drop by Romo. BOOM. Broken collarbone, wrist, what have you.

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Literally the worst lineman I've ever seen play in the NFL.

The hits keep on coming. Third play of third drive. Look at where the rest of the O-line is. Looks at where Arkin is. He's either driven into the backfield or turned around looking at his defender running past him on at least 50% of the snaps.

The guy was driven 3 yards backwards before ROMO COULD EVEN COMPLETE THE HANDOFF!

http://img28.*************/img28/5350/35935372.png

 

[burmafrd]

was it? last week he gave up a sack and had 3 penalties, 2 of which were very iffy, are you watching closely?

actually all three penalties were legit; if ticky tacky

Regular refs will throw the same flags on occasion

 

[Zordon]

theogt, pretty much said it all. he was consistently getting blown up in that 1st quarter and demarco, felix, and romo were making plays in spite of him. it's truly amazing to me how much potential this offense has to be elite if we just had better line play. say what you want about the rams, they are still a professional nfl team so it was impressive to put up those yds/pts in the 1st quarter w/out our three top receiving threats and a center that was getting pushed back 2-3 feet on several plays. i commend arkin for learning the position on the fly, i'm a little shocked that he's still weak despite a full year working out but lets not play games here. i play costa next game and if he disappoints i go get a center. it looks like we have a special running back and romo is romo...lets improve that position so they can flourish.

 

[Cowboyz88]

The obvious difference is that AOA probably won't even make the team, while Arkin may have to play a significant role.

And unfortunately, the Giants won't award him any novice mercy points.

From most accounts, Costa will be the starter against the Giants which again makes your rant look even more silly.

That said, if Arkin does play, I would agree that it would be an area of great concern, but what then?

We obviously have no one better on the team, and if you think someone from another team can come in in less than two weeks and be affective, you're nuts.

Basically, it is what it is at this point, and to raise a stink at this stage in the game is pointless, IMO.

 

[CowboyChris]

keep in mind, im comparing Arkin to Costa, not the rest of the league, we made our bed with this OL in the offseason, while we may have upgraded the OG positions, we didnt bring in any centers. so this is it Arkin and Costa.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

From most accounts, Costa will be the starter against the Giants which again makes your rant look even more silly.

That said, if Arkin does play, I would agree that it would be an area of great concern, but what then?

We obviously have no one better on the team, and if you think someone from another team can come in in less than two weeks and be affective, you're nuts.

Basically, it is what it is at this point, and to raise a stink at this stage in the game is pointless, IMO.

LOL. I did anything but "rant". I merely pointed out how silly your AOA comparison was.

 

[Primetime42]

This is 100% the problem that people have. You've completely embodied how flawed many fans' analysis is when speaking as to individual players. By and large, most people cannot separate an individual's performance from the team's performance. If the team does well, and someone criticizes a player, it's shouted down. And if the team does poorly, and someone defends a player's performance, they're shouted down.

That kind of thinking was the reason we had to suffer through a season of Alan Ball at safety. When he replaced Hamlin in 2009 for a few games, the defense -- which was otherwise outstanding -- masked Alan Ball's horrid performance in those few games. The very few of us that pointed it out were shouted down and told to give the guy a chance.

I couldn't care less how the team performed as a whole when I'm analyzing an individual player's performance.

I was unaware that fan criticism/defending of players led to personnel decisions from the Dallas Cowboys front office.

 

[SWG9]

theogt, pretty much said it all. he was consistently getting blown up in that 1st quarter and demarco, felix, and romo were making plays in spite of him. it's truly amazing to me how much potential this offense has to be elite if we just had better line play. say what you want about the rams, they are still a professional nfl team so it was impressive to put up those yds/pts in the 1st quarter w/out our three top receiving threats and a center that was getting pushed back 2-3 feet on several plays. i commend arkin for learning the position on the fly, i'm a little shocked that he's still weak despite a full year working out but lets not play games here. i play costa next game and if he disappoints i go get a center. it looks like we have a special running back and romo is romo...lets improve that position so they can flourish.

I am too. I mentioned this in another thread, but he's fresh from being inactive all last season and has had the entire offseason to go all out in the weight room...and he's still this weak?

Hard to imagine a 4th round pick needing two full seasons to gain enough strength to even play in the NFL and still being successful.

 

[Teague31]

Yet someway, somehow romo was able to throw for 200 yards in a quarter. Ponderous...

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yet someway, somehow romo was able to throw for 200 yards in a quarter. Ponderous...

That's the fly in the oinment when it comes to disbaraging the offensive line too much.

For 5 guys who couldn't block... Anything or anyone, the offense hummed right along.

Funny how that works.

 

[theogt]

That's the fly in the oinment when it comes to disbaraging the offensive line too much.

For 5 guys who couldn't block... Anything or anyone, the offense hummed right along.

Funny how that works.

Romo has been making scrubs look competent for years.

 

[Bluestang]

Romo and Co. showed that they can pick up blitzes, that's why we moved the ball and scored.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

That's the fly in the oinment when it comes to disbaraging the offensive line too much.

For 5 guys who couldn't block... Anything or anyone, the offense hummed right along.

Funny how that works.

That's right, as long as Romo can pick apart a really bad Rams team, that's all that matters. Who cares that this OL will struggle against good teams, we dismantled the Rams in pre-season!

Championship!!!!!

 

[Joshmil53]

Romo has been making scrubs look competent for years.

This, Romo makes all of our line look like Pro-bowlers in some cases.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Romo has been making scrubs look competent for years.

And there's certainly merit in what you say.

But I think the criticism gets added on a little thick at times.

The guards played well last night... They deserve some credit.

I agree with you that Arkin is not the answer this year.

The tackles didn't play up to expectations last night.

But overall the effort could have been better but wasn't horrible either... A mixed bag if you will.