ARTICLE: Both sides say Edwards won't be returning

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BrAinPaiNt;1369706 said:
Hey we agree for the first time in awhile.

Welcome back to my loving arms Mr. Winicki. :p:

Ewwwwww!

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Like the others have said, Dielman is a no-brainer. I think he'd have been a big target for us and I think we'd have had a good chance of getting him even with Parcells here. But with Wade, maybe we now have a better-than-average shot. He'd be an excellent upgrade for our line, and he likely won't have command the stratospheric-type contract Steinbach will. ES might well get Steve Hutchinson money.

And Edwards would fit perfectly here, unless Wade just loves the LBs here. I get the point about 30-somethings, but you won't be talking about a huge contract in his case. He is on the decline and he knows it. But Catch is right - - Edwards doesn't play like his age. He's kind of a Dat-like LB who is extremely smart and savvy. He's also the natural leader type -- just what we could use. He's also a pro's pro when it comes to things like conditioning and preparation, which is always good for our young players.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1369683 said:
Exactly.

This isn't monopoly money that is being played with...

We dumped a big wad of cash on Brady James. I want to see our new coach do something with the guy.
I think if you base decisions of who to play on external factors rather than who is the best fit for the position, then you're setting yourself up for failure. James' contract just isn't as debilitating as some people think. It's perfectly reasonable to have him riding the pine if there is a better option at ILB.
 

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stasheroo;1369667 said:
I'm not denying his ability - not at all.

But you have to balance dollars and sense.

Given what this team has already invested in the players they have, how does Edwards fit?

Because we are switching to a defense that he was really good in.

Im not sure of this but I think he made calls on the field for the Chargers as well.

When your learning a new defense sometimes you may get lined up in the wrong place during the game. Especially in a defense as tricky as Phillips.

The Vet leadership, abilities to help players adjust, and most important the Skills he still has is worth a 3-4 year deal.
 

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Maybe Edwards replaces Singletary? But I don't see JJ shelling out BIG bucks on a LB on the wrong side of 30. If Edwards is reasonably priced, could be.

But in any case, even without Edwards, I think Burnett has a chance to shine now.
 

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CATCH17;1369740 said:
Because we are switching to a defense that he was really good in.

Im not sure of this but I think he made calls on the field for the Chargers as well.

When your learning a new defense sometimes you may get lined up in the wrong place during the game. Especially in a defense as tricky as Phillips.

The Vet leadership, abilities to help players adjust, and most important the Skills he still has is worth a 3-4 year deal.

Again, how does he fit in here?

What big money linebacker sits for the team to sign yet another one?

It's not just about his ability on the field, it's about age, money, draft picks, and several other factors.

The main reason why Edwards is leaving arguably the league's best team is about one thing - money.

He wants lots of it and will go to whoever gives him the most.

And at 33, the odds of injury increase every day - especially at the physically demanding position of linebacker.

I'd love to sign the guy but there are too many factors working against it.
 

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Do we really want someone who will try to redo his contract every year?

Better think it over......he is a very good LB
 

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stasheroo;1369755 said:
Again, how does he fit in here?

What big money linebacker sits for the team to sign yet another one?

It's not just about his ability on the field, it's about age, money, draft picks, and several other factors.

The main reason why Edwards is leaving arguably the league's best team is about one thing - money.

He wants lots of it and will go to whoever gives him the most.

And at 33, the odds of injury increase every day - especially at the physically demanding position of linebacker.

I'd love to sign the guy but there are too many factors working against it.

Your concerned about the money and neither of us have a clue what his asking price is.

If hes asking for top dollar with a lot of years then I say no.

But i've clearly explained to you how he fits in.

I could care less about Bradie James... Hes not better than Donnie Edwards.

And the odds of injury may increase but that doesnt apply to every player. Especially for guys like Donnie who always seem to stay healthy.

2 games missed his entire career at the physically demanding linebacker position.

Also isnt the cap going way up next year?

This would be a Quality move for us.
 

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CATCH17;1369760 said:
Your concerned about the money and neither of us have a clue what his asking price is.

If hes asking for top dollar with a lot of years then I say no.

But i've clearly explained to you how he fits in.

I could care less about Bradie James... Hes not better than Donnie Edwards.

And the odds of injury may increase but that doesnt apply to every player. Especially for guys like Donnie who always seem to stay healthy.

2 games missed his entire career at the physically demanding linebacker position.

Also isnt the cap going way up next year?

This would be a Quality move for us.

We know it's too high for the team that knows him better than anybody. That much we know. That says high dollar any way you slice it.

And you may not care about Brady James, but Jerry Jones does. He's just made a big-money financial commitment to him. He's not about to just sit him so he can pay big money to another guy to do the same thing.
 

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stasheroo;1369776 said:
We know it's too high for the team that knows him better than anybody. That much we know. That says high dollar any way you slice it.

And you may not care about Brady James, but Jerry Jones does. He's just made a big-money financial commitment to him. He's not about to just sit him so he can pay big money to another guy to do the same thing.

We'll see.

I think this move makes to much sense and the only thing that will stop it is a crazy asking price by Edwards.
 

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CATCH17;1369788 said:
We'll see.

I think this move makes to much sense and the only thing that will stop it is a crazy asking price by Edwards.

We'll see.
 

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Clove;1369414 said:
I like Edwards next to Ayodele, atleast for 2 or 3 years. I also like the Guard, those would be my only 2 FA I would go after, and pay. Unless you can get a power house corner back.

Edwards plays the Jack LB position, Ayodele's position. He flows to the ball and is covered more.

I dont think either would be good at Mike, since the position calls for the Mike to take on OL frequently.

Godfrey plays Mike in SD. He is about 255lbs. and can shed blocks well.
 

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Al Singleton is no longer here and his spot would be well filled by a guy like Edwards. Veteran leadership for what is still a very young unit and also a guy that can help everyone on defense transition to Wades scheme.

The age is an obvious concern but a moderate 2 year contract sounds about right especially if he can provide insurance against James/Burnett who I am not exactly sold on.
 

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superpunk;1369611 said:
Kosier played far more effectively, and made a much bigger difference than Gurode this year. I think he's in our future big time. We only need one guard. ;)

Might want to look at replacing that center position, completely, though. I wanted us to do it last year with Bentley and move Gurode to Guard, but Bentley wanted Cleveland.
Draft Kalil from USC and sign both Dielman and Steinbach.

Would that suffice?
 

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Hostile;1369855 said:
Draft Kalil from USC and sign both Dielman and Steinbach.

Would that suffice?

That's too much mixup on a unit that requires continuity more than anything (plus, I'm not in draft mode yet and I don't know who Kalil is)

I say just Steinbach. RG needs replaced, there's no two ways about it.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1369456 said:
I agree only because this guy will want a huge contract and it appears he has been complaining about the contract he has had in SD.

We don't need to put big money into aging players...we should have learned that by now.

Now...If he would come for a small price, no problem because we don't take much of a chance...but chances are he will want a big contract and I say we pass on that idea.

I agree that he'll want a big contract and won't be a great fit. I think the guard would be a much better pick. Sign one or two of their (or Buffalo's) backup/journeymen type to challenge Bradie...because imo Ayodele really came on last year and could fit this system pretty well.
 

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At his age and position (I doubt many 4-3 teams will be interested), he might not be worth as much as he thinks he is. I would consider him in a one or two year deal with a decent singing bonus, a good salary and some incentives.

Bradie James scares me.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1369608 said:
I see everyone is ready to "dial 1-800-linebacker".

Guess what folks?

You just dropped a bundle on Brady James.

And my guess is that he becomes one of Phillips attempted reclamation projects before we start dropping more coin on another ILB.

Snatched my thought. Wouldn't signing Edwards mean that the Cowboys don't have faith in Ayodele and/or James or have given up on Carpenter and Burnett? As much as I like the player, he doesn't fit a need. IMO sign a top OG that fits the Cowboys scheme (whatever that maybe for the coming season), add another high level OL to push for starting OG, C or OT, decide whether Henry will continue as CB or be moved to FS (if being moved, draft a top level CB in either the low 1st or high 2nd rd to replace him) and determine whether J.Jones is fit for the starting RB position.

The pieces for the 3-4 LB positions are in place for the most part. They just need to be refined.
 

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stasheroo;1369776 said:
We know it's too high for the team that knows him better than anybody. That much we know. That says high dollar any way you slice it.

And you may not care about Brady James, but Jerry Jones does. He's just made a big-money financial commitment to him. He's not about to just sit him so he can pay big money to another guy to do the same thing.


Exactly.

Jerry sounded pissed because last year's FA haul didn't represent a good investment.

Let's see what our new coach can do with James.
 
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