ARTICLE: Peterman embodies changes in Lions lineup

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Came across this article and thought you'd be interested in finding out whatever happened to former Cowboy OG Stephen Peterman. You just won't believe it. Didn't we draft him in 2004 but cut him in 05 or was it 06? Sure sounds like we might have been a bit rash.

Peterman embodies changes in Lions lineup

Friday, May 18, 2007 By Tom Kowalski

ALLEN PARK -- In concluding their three-day mandatory minicamp on Thursday, one thing has become apparent about the Detroit Lions: They've got a lot of new faces in new places.

Nobody embodies that more than Stephen Peterman, who joined the team last year as an unknown practice-squad player but is now the starting right guard. Peterman, who is replacing Damien Woody, is just one of many changes in Detroit's lineup, which could have as many as 10 different starters this season.

"The biggest thing I talk about is our team chemistry,'' said Lions head coach Rod Marinelli. "The chemistry of a unit changes and the cement that brings that chemistry together is belief, fundamentals and working together.''

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While the Lions have been planning several of the moves for quite a while, Peterman's quick rise up the depth chart came as a surprise.

A third-round draft pick by the Dallas Cowboys three years ago, Peterman never got settled in Texas and was released by them last season.

He was signed to Detroit's practice squad and played in the final three games, starting two. Peterman was so impressive that the Lions told him from the first day of off-season workouts this year that he would be practicing with the starters.

Peterman was in the mix for a starting job in Dallas during his rookie season but tore a ligament in his right knee in the final preseason game. He was never in the plans of head coach Bill Parcells after that.

"I don't know, man, it was weird. It was a weird deal,'' Peterman said. "I went through a lot of frustrations there and they kind of turned their back on me. I think he felt that once I got hurt, I wasn't ever going to come back so his plans went to other places. Coach Marinelli gave me a shot here and everything's been great since I left there.''

Peterman believes a minor injury at the start of camp in Dallas might have put him on the wrong path with Parcells.

"I broke a finger on the first day of camp and Parcells said I wouldn't miss practice and I casted it up,'' Peterman said. "Then I tore my knee up and I think he thought I was injury prone or something and I just had some bad luck there. Things have changed here and I'll never forget that game, going back there and winning.''

Peterman had an outstanding game as the Lions stunned the Cowboys 38-31 in last season's final game. It also turned out to be the final regular-season game for Parcells in Dallas, as he left the team after they were eliminated in the playoffs.

"I remember after the game him saying it was his lowest low of being Dallas Cowboys head coach,'' Peterman said. "For guys like (former Cowboys) Dan (Campbell) and Aveion (Cason), guys they kicked out of there and said `We don't want you anymore' -- to finish his last regular-season game like that, it was pretty good.''

Not that Peterman has bad memories of everybody in Dallas. It was strength and conditioning coach Joe Juraszek who helped Peterman bounce back after his knee injury.

"I still talk to him once a day because he told me that if I trusted him, he'd get me back on the field. He said `Just listen to me. It's going to take a while, but I'll get you back on the field,' '' Peterman said. "For about two years, I lived in the weight room doing rehab and he brought me back as a better player than I was coming out of college.''

To this day, Peterman still wears a brace on his right knee, even though he doesn't need it.

"It's just a mental thing,'' he said. "It was a pretty bad injury and it happened on a field goal of all plays. I said I'll always wear a brace on it `just because,' but it feels fine.''
 

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Man, if he ends up playing well, just another reason for me to hate Parcells.
 

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Hey Peterman...

2006 Dallas Cowboys: 9-7

2006 Detroit Lions: 3-13

There's a reason your sorry but go removed from the team (along with Campbell and Aveion) and it's the same reason only the sorry arse Lions wanted your sorry arse.

Good luck with that.


Man, if he ends up playing well, just another reason for me to hate Parcells.

:rolleyes:
 

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Sounds just like another Colombo teams dont like paying high prices for injured draft picks to sit on the roster and rehab its frustrating for owners and GMs seems a lot like money down the toilet. He might not be as good as this article suggests but there was a reason he was selected in the third round and it wasnt reaching on BP's part. Good luck to him I always liked him while he was here and thought we should have held onto him really, but as I said earlier that is often how it works in the NFL ala Colombo.
 

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sago1;1502380 said:
"I don't know, man, it was weird. It was a weird deal,'' Peterman said. "I went through a lot of frustrations there and they kind of turned their back on me.
Very frustrating to read that.
 

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The hero of this story sounds like Joe Juraszek. I think I would like to meet him some day.
 

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Parcells has always had a short window of patience when it comes to injuries. If a guy gets hurt a couple of times in a row and isn't on the field he writes them off pretty quickly and moves on. I don't really blame him for that as he only has a certain number of roster spots available and they have to be used for guys that will be able to play.

WR Jimmy Smith was cut the same way by Jimmy Johnson after he thought Smith was injury prone and lacked toughness. The guy went on to have a great career with the Jags and we really could have used him opposite Irvin.

In Peterman's case it was just bad luck and bad timing with his injuries and BP saw him as being injury prone. In the case of Rogers, he was just lazy and was truly a wasted pick.

I hope Peterman does well in Detroit, I'm just sorry that things didn't work out with him in Dallas.
 

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"I remember after the game him saying it was his lowest low of being Dallas Cowboys head coach,'' Peterman said. "For guys like (former Cowboys) Dan (Campbell) and Aveion (Cason), guys they kicked out of there and said `We don't want you anymore' -- to finish his last regular-season game like that, it was pretty good.''

i thought dan campbell was lured away not cut?
 

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THUMPER;1502400 said:
Parcells has always had a short window of patience when it comes to injuries. If a guy gets hurt a couple of times in a row and isn't on the field he writes them off pretty quickly and moves on. I don't really blame him for that as he only has a certain number of roster spots available and they have to be used for guys that will be able to play.

WR Jimmy Smith was cut the same way by Jimmy Johnson after he thought Smith was injury prone and lacked toughness. The guy went on to have a great career with the Jags and we really could have used him opposite Irvin.

In Peterman's case it was just bad luck and bad timing with his injuries and BP saw him as being injury prone. In the case of Rogers, he was just lazy and was truly a wasted pick.

I hope Peterman does well in Detroit, I'm just sorry that things didn't work out with him in Dallas.


Agreed...that's why his selection of Jacob Rogers has always baffled me.
 

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I hope he does well........it must be a fine line between talent levels in this league.
 

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Detroit is not exactly a playoff team; and their O line was not very good last year. So being a starter there might not be that big a deal. Now one could ask if maybe Peterman could have been better then Rivera, but that is hard to tell.
 

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wayne motley;1502387 said:
Man, if he ends up playing well, just another reason for me to hate Parcells.


Why did Parcells cause his injury? People rag on Parcells because of Peterman and Rogers, but he didn't cause the injuries that kept them from being a success in the NFL.
 

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dmq;1502442 said:
Why did Parcells cause his injury? People rag on Parcells because of Peterman and Rogers, but he didn't cause the injuries that kept them from being a success in the NFL.

Drafting Rogers was on Parcells because he knew of his injury history. However unless Parcells was in the pile when Peterman got hurt it's not his fault.
 

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I felt like he had plenty of time to show his merit in Dallas. IF he makes it in Detroit, he maybe just one of those guys that needs a change of local to wake up and get the lights to come on.

This article is somewhat premature anyways....he played in how many games last year? In the words of Parcells, lets not put him in the HOF yet.
 
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Hey, if he's an injured guy in college, and immediately turns into an injured guy that can't get on the field to practice OR play in the pros for 3 freaking years, then you're wasting your time. Small window with Parcells?

I'm sure it's just human nature and a defense mechanism, but I wonder if these guys know how petty, childish and small they sound when they mouth off. This guy has no room to talk, he hasn't done squat for anybody yet,,, unless you count the added "practice" he gave to the Cowboys trainers and therapists. :rolleyes:

This just in Petermen, that loss in Seattle that you enjoyed so much? YOU helped cause it by being a 3yr waste of time, roster space, and draft pick. Jerk.
 

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Parcells has always had a short window of patience when it comes to injuries. If a guy gets hurt a couple of times in a row and isn't on the field he writes them off pretty quickly and moves on. I don't really blame him for that as he only has a certain number of roster spots available and they have to be used for guys that will be able to play.

WR Jimmy Smith was cut the same way by Jimmy Johnson after he thought Smith was injury prone and lacked toughness. The guy went on to have a great career with the Jags and we really could have used him opposite Irvin.

In Peterman's case it was just bad luck and bad timing with his injuries and BP saw him as being injury prone. In the case of Rogers, he was just lazy and was truly a wasted pick.

I hope Peterman does well in Detroit, I'm just sorry that things didn't work out with him in Dallas.


I agree with somewhat Thumper said, that Parcells is well known for making players play hurt, I still say to this day, the day Peterman motioned to the sideline, he sprained something, and was coming back to sideline, best to my knowledge, and Parcells shook his fist at Peterman, made him go back into the game.
Thats all on Parcells, now a guy like Jacob Rogers Parcells stuck with longer than Peterman, even the scouts said no to Parcells not to draft Peterman, and parcells did it anyway. When, a player is hurt, you see what is wrong, just dont stick them back in the game. Got to remember,when parcells made peterman get back into the game, after he had made a huge run block to open a huge gaping running lane for the running back, parcells stuck him back in the game, this guy had potential written all over him. Next play on a field goal attempt best i remember, Peterman compensated for his sprained injury, and result tearing up his knee. I mean we all saw Peterman limping towards the sideline after the running play and Parcells shakes his fist at him, telling him to get back in there no matter what.
I blame that on Parcells, you watch, this guy will be all pro in a couple of years, and its all on Parcells. His stubburness to play players hurt, his way to play a vanilla defense, and not let players attack on defense, make them play a 2 gap defense, even there was an article patriots head coach and parcells when they were with the jets i believe or the giants, not sure which team, but sanders was the running back, and we all know how good a running back barry sanders was, bilichick, patriots head coach now was defensive coordinator, and he devised a scheme to have a defensive back to cover sanders, parcells yelled at bilichick during the game, you couldnt coach high school football, you XXX@@@$$$, you ##@@%%, if this doesnt work im going to kick your @@##$$$ all over the place, you ##@$$%%%,
well they stopped sanders, and the rest is history, im sure you have seen schemes where bilichick schemes now with extra linebackers, or defensive backs like against peyton manning, etc. Parcells is in some ways a good coach to help build a team, but these are his weaknesses, all you have to do is go back and look at his drafts, when it came to offensive linemen in 2nd or 3rd rounds, etc, he generally bummed out,, now when he drafted offensive linemen in 6th or 7th round, he went on what he saw by talent, size, etc, and he was good at it, but in 2nd round or 3rd round, he wanted an offensive linemen that could play multiple positions, and he generally missed out, case in point, again our scouts stood up on the table during draft, and said NO to Jacob Rogers, he is injury prone, parcells took him anyway. Peterman was more a smash mouth offensive linemen, not so much a pulling guard, or downfield blocking,, but a definite smash mouth player. And another parcells weakness, he wouldnt adapt to changes, like staying in vanilla defense, or attack mode, if you all remember, the players begged now to be allowed to attack Peyton Manning in the colt game last year, what happened we won.
So, in large degree i will blame Parcells for getting Stephen Peterman hurt. And Parcells stubborness to play guys hurt, and not adapt to schemes, but doing it his way no matter what.
 

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sago1;1502380 said:
"I remember after the game him saying it was his lowest low of being Dallas Cowboys head coach,'' Peterman said. "For guys like (former Cowboys) Dan (Campbell) and Aveion (Cason), guys they kicked out of there and said `We don't want you anymore' -- to finish his last regular-season game like that, it was pretty good.''

Kosier > Peterman
L. Davis > Peterman
Barber, J. Jones, Thompson all > Cason
Witten & Fasano both > Campbell
 

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I do wonder why Parcells soured on him. He seems like the kind of real tough guy who lives for football that Parcells would like.

And as far as being injury prone, that was a horrific injury he sustained to his knee. That's different than tapping out because of a little sprain or tweak like Rogers did.

One problem with Peterman is that he was never athletic at all. You kind of wonder if he could have worked under the new scheme that we *seem* to be going to.
 

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AtlCB;1502475 said:
Kosier > Peterman
L. Davis > Peterman
Barber, J. Jones, Thompson all > Cason
Witten & Fasano both > Campbell

Hello! Why can't these guys just go to another team and do their best without putting down their previous employer? I think there is more bitterness with ex-Cowboy players. Maybe it's the added exposure and all of the Dallas questions they get when they go elsewhere. Anyway, I really don't care about how Peterman felt when we lost to Seattle. I really don't.

Edit: After reading it again, I realize he meant the last game at Texas Stadium where we stunk it up against the sorry arse Lions. Still, I really don't care how Peterman feels. About anything. If only that official hadn't blown the call on THE VERY FIRST PLAY OF THAT GAME. No doubt we would've whooped their arses. Oh well.
 

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Rack;1502390 said:
Hey Peterman...

2006 Dallas Cowboys: 9-7

2006 Detroit Lions: 3-13

There's a reason your sorry but go removed from the team (along with Campbell and Aveion) and it's the same reason only the sorry arse Lions wanted your sorry arse.

Good luck with that.




:rolleyes:

we could have used campbell last year. If they had known he would stay healthy, he never would have not been resigned. Hannam is signed and gets hurt and campbell played very well all year.


A guy like Dan Campbell could have helped us down the stretch.
 
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