ARTICLE: Peterman embodies changes in Lions lineup

[dozin_theknick]

Fair enough, but I disagree on the premise that offensive linemen don't even hit their peak playing ability until around the age of 28. I remember Parcells having a lot of love for Peterman, too. But he just lost his head over the injuries, apparently.

And I agree with you, I just think at the time it was a decision that had to be made. I'm not saying it was right or wrong (though at the time I know I had enough of him) only BP knows if he was premature in letting him go. I know he would say no. Injuries make roster decisions in the NFL dificult, ie, I think the third or fourth round draft pick we gave for Charles Haley was a steal, but the Niners though he and his back were done.

 

[dozin_theknick]

Fair enough, but I disagree on the premise that offensive linemen don't even hit their peak playing ability until around the age of 28. I remember Parcells having a lot of love for Peterman, too. But he just lost his head over the injuries, apparently.

That is a good point. Does that make the 2nd to 4th round pick of an OL risky? Do you only pick the no brainer LT in the first, the potential guys in later rounds and fill in other players other teams have lost patients in after their rookie contract?


GOD, can training camp get here please??

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Yeah, i don't see the need for all of the venom.

Read his comments again. It's one thing to move on with your career and do your best elsewhere. It's another to yap about the ex-Cowboys who are now on the Lions and how the Cowboys are such big bullies for cutting them or letting them leave in free agency. It isn't as if Peterman ever did a darn thing here. He needs to shut his piehole. That is the need for all the venom.

 

[Chuck 54]

Why did Parcells cause his injury? People rag on Parcells because of Peterman and Rogers, but he didn't cause the injuries that kept them from being a success in the NFL.

I didn't say anything about his injury...I'm a long time Parcells hater...long record of hating his fat butt in NY, and I personally hated having him for a coach because he will always suck in my mind and could never really be a Cowboy.

The comment was meant to say that cutting a guy who could probably be at least a better backup than the other guards we have makes me hate him even more...he was obviously a poor judge of talent on the OL the whole time he was here.

And for whomever posted that starting for Detroit is no big deal, let's remember that Detroit let Kozier become a FA because they weren't excited about him and now he's starting here. I'm not sure that Proctor or any of our other backup guards would be starting in Detroit.

 

[Chuck 54]

Hate him for what? Drafting the guy? Injuries or whatever, Peterman could get on the field in three years. If he starts for the Lions, it's because he's all they have. And he's replacing a guy who the Lions said "We don't want you" to so get over yourself Peterman. He got paid, plus had a personal trainer for a couple years keep him in shape for free, so he could get another job. He should thank Jerry instead of complain.

It doesn't require much for me to hate Bill Parcells...I would love nothing better than to see him never get in the HOF...that's how much I hate the fat lard butt....but I know he'll get in...thank god it was not for anything he did with the Cowboys....I'm glad he's gone, and I hope he never gets any real credit for anything positive that we do.

There...now my irrational hate for a guy that used to coach the Giants is better stated...I tried to go with a one-liner because I never miss an opportunity to dump on Parcells. I'd love to see him come back and coach another team and totally flop....I was embarrassed to have him on the Cowboys sideline and, yes, irrationally, I'd prefer Campo, Switzer or any one else to parcells, just as I'd puke to see Gibbs or Vermeil in a Cowboys uniform.

 

[burmafrd]

wayne, really. I mean you need to get a grip. This kind of IRRATIONAL hatred pretty much discredits anything you have to say. People get on me for being a ND homer and I am; yet I am willing to criticise those Irish players that I think deserve it (Harris, McKnight, Theisman, Fasano, etc). You have not shown the ability to rise about your hate and thus be be taken seriously.

 

[Chuck 54]

wayne, really. I mean you need to get a grip. This kind of IRRATIONAL hatred pretty much discredits anything you have to say. People get on me for being a ND homer and I am; yet I am willing to criticise those Irish players that I think deserve it (Harris, McKnight, Theisman, Fasano, etc). You have not shown the ability to rise about your hate and thus be be taken seriously.

That's the whole point. I'm not trying to be taken seriously, and I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. My entire point is that it's okay to irrationally hate certain players and coaches...it's not hate for them personally...it's hate for them wearing the uniform and wishing they were back with other teams where the hate would be more satisfying.

Many supporters of T.O. hated him while he was in SF. Most hated Parcells when he was a Giant. What's wrong with that?

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind...just sharing my opinion...I hated and still hate Bill Parcells. What's wrong with that, really?....

 

[burmafrd]

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[randy932]

That's the whole point. I'm not trying to be taken seriously, and I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. My entire point is that it's okay to irrationally hate certain players and coaches...it's not hate for them personally...it's hate for them wearing the uniform and wishing they were back with other teams where the hate would be more satisfying.

Many supporters of T.O. hated him while he was in SF. Most hated Parcells when he was a Giant. What's wrong with that?

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind...just sharing my opinion...I hated and still hate Bill Parcells. What's wrong with that, really?....

Ding, ding, ding. And we have a winner. By a mile.

 

[burmafrd]

I never really understood the NEED to hate another team. I really do not hate the Skins or the Giants or even the birds; to me hate says you want them DEAD. I prefer them alive and suffering.

 

[sjordan6]

Lions pleased with Peterman

Dallas setback made him strong

May 18, 2007
BY NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA
FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER
It happened during the last exhibition game his rookie year. The Dallas Cowboys had just scored a touchdown, and as they attempted an extra point, there was a pileup. He tried to jump out of the way. He couldn't.

He suffered two torn ligaments in his right knee.
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OAS_AD('ArticleFlex_1'); It was a devastating injury for Stephen Peterman, but in a lot of ways, it brought him to where he is now. Peterman worked as the Lions' starting right guard in the three-day mandatory minicamp that ended Thursday.

"It was a pretty nasty surgery, man," Peterman said. "It took awhile to get back."
Peterman had surgery to repair his anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments. He sat out the 2004 season. Although he came back for training camp in 2005, he was inactive for the Cowboys' first 11 games.

He didn't make his NFL debut until that December.

The Cowboys never came out and said they had given up on him. They didn't really have to.
"They brought in other guys," Peterman said. "They never really gave me a shot. Maybe they didn't tell it to me, but I could see it that I wasn't in their plans. You can feel it when you're around the building and they're not working with you."

Dallas strength and conditioning coach Joe Juraszek told Peterman:

"Hey, stick by me. I'll get you back on the field, whether it's here or somewhere else." Peterman stuck by Juraszek and got to the point where he didn't notice the knee anymore.

He landed somewhere else -- Detroit.

The Lions signed Peterman to their practice squad last October and promoted him to the active roster last December when they ran into injury trouble.

He played three games, starting two, and impressed the brass.

When coach Rod Marinelli talks about football character, he doesn't mean he wants choirboys. He means he wants guys who can't live without football. Peterman's injury built plenty of football character.

"It was a good growing process," Peterman said. "It makes you respect the game a lot more. You sit back and you see the guys that don't work hard, that have the talent and don't make it. You see guys getting cut. You see the guys trying to just go through the motions. Being hurt just taught me a lot about the NFL. It's not promised to you. You've got to come out and work. It's a privilege to be here."

After practice Thursday, Marinelli raved about Peterman's attitude: "Peterman just loves this stuff now. He's out here all day."

A little later, as Peterman did an interview, Marinelli poked his head through the door and said: "He's tough."

Peterman doesn't just fit Marinelli's philosophy, though. He fits offensive coordinator Mike Martz's system, too.

"He is the prototypical guard for what we do," Martz said. "We're going to see all those big inside tackles defensively, and at 320 pounds, he can handle that in the running game. The five-step drops that we do with the quarterback, he's pretty stout."

Peterman feels like he's finally becoming the player he was supposed to be.

He was All-America when Louisiana State won the national title in 2003. He was a third-round draft pick.

"I think I'm better than when I came out," Peterman said. "It's working out for the best."


think we should have held out one more season? He was an All American for god sakes!

 

[iceberg]

we get kozier and they get peterman. hopefully peterman will step it up and have a good career - you hate to see any potential just wizzed away.

 

[burmafrd]

Hold on for one more season? why should we have? What had he shown? he had 2 full years AFTER the injury to show something. And has he really shown much NOW?

 

[Biggems]

Give it time Burma...He is a big man, and puts a lot of stress on the knees cause of all the pounding those big guys take.

I want to see him succeed. If he was a scrub with no heart, I wouldnt care. Since his was injury related, and he seems to really want it, then I am rooting for him.

 

[ethiostar]

Hold on for one more season? why should we have? What had he shown? he had 2 full years AFTER the injury to show something. And has he really shown much NOW?

I believe it took Colombo more than 2 full years to show he still had the talent to play the game at a hight level after his injury. Sometimes it takes a bit longer for some players and a change of scenery might help as well.

 

[burmafrd]

Colombo's injury was MISDIAGNOSED. It was more then a year later that it was correctly figured out and he started CORRECT rehab- just about the time BP grabbed him. Peterman had two full years to rehab and show something. And he didnt. That is why he was cut.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

How long do you want to give a guy? You have only so many spots and if he can't get over an injury in 2 years.. see ya later. It doesn't mean he can't play, but you can't wait forever.

Yeah, tell that to the Bears. They just couldn't afford to wait for Marc Columbo to develop because he took over 2 yrs. to recover from his injury. We got him for a song.

You have to look at the situation. Both player's situations were complicated by infections of their surgery. Any team should know that once a wound is infected, it can take twice as long to recover. If they thought he was worth the pick they used, they should think he's worth the time to allow him to prove he can play AFTER he has healed!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind...just sharing my opinion...I hated and still hate Bill Parcells. What's wrong with that, really?....

because there's no need for it

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Colombo's injury was MISDIAGNOSED. It was more then a year later that it was correctly figured out and he started CORRECT rehab- just about the time BP grabbed him. Peterman had two full years to rehab and show something. And he didnt. That is why he was cut.

That makes a lot of sense. You insert the time he was rehabbing with the entire time he was here. Peterman was drafted in 2004. He had a VERY serious knee injury in which multiple ligaments were torn. That alone takes over a year to rehab. So, he missed the 2004 season, since it was right before the season that the ijury occurred. He was STILL rehabbing the knee during training camp of 2005, so it was kinda hard to learn anything, let alone, prove anything.

Peterman finally was totally healed some time during the 2005 season, but, of course, he wasn't about to see any action. For all intents & purposes, he was still a rookie. When he got to camp in '06, I'm sure he was probably a little hesitant with the knee. He wasn't ever the quickest guy, so I'm sure the knee made him even more of a plodder. Parcells got tired of waiting for this "rookie" to win a job, so he cut him.

I guess what I thought was stupid was that Parcells already had Columbo in camp, so he knew the value of giving a player time to develop. Columbo was drafted in '02, and he still hadn't proven a thing, but Parcells cuts Peterman for taking too long, and keeps Columbo.

 

[CalCBFan]

Why did Parcells cause his injury? People rag on Parcells because of Peterman and Rogers, but he didn't cause the injuries that kept them from being a success in the NFL.

I think Parcells had a lot to do w/ his injury. If you remember correctly, Peterman tried to limp off the field after the 3rd down play and BP shooed him back in there. On the FG try his knee was wrecked. Stephen was having a great camp prior to that. The announcers even made a comment about was that a smart move to make him go back in there and risk further injury. BP did the same thing w/ Julius Jones if you remember...