Article: Police raid Vick's home, find dog abuse

theogt;1470622 said:
A social contract with dogs? Now, I've seen some iffy arguments before. ;)

By the way, dogs are recognized as property in every state that I'm aware of. Yes, they're very cute and cuddly, and sometimes they're your best friend, but they ARE property.

Property that you're not allowed to abuse.
 
jackrussell;1470615 said:
You own an animal and it's your responsibility to nuture it and care for it's well being.

Or you shouldn't have it to begin with.
I agree that there should be a moral obligation to take care of the job. I don't agree that there should be a legal obligation.

And it does affect society...as you're thumbing your nose at the law...great role model on that, right?

Freakin' pitiful.
Wait a second. It has a negative impact on society because he broke the law? That's not what we're talking about. I'm talking about dog-fighting. Does it have a negative impact on society that outweighs the owner's interest in the property?
 
Bob Sacamano;1470625 said:
and fighting dogs is recognized as against the law

jackrussell;1470627 said:
Property that you're not allowed to abuse.
Of course. I didn't say otherwise. I just think it's a stupid law.
 
Bob Sacamano;1470640 said:
got busted huh?
I wouldn't ever do something that horrible. As I've stated before, it's a disgusting thing to do.
 
Another sad and ugly incident by Ron Mexico. Quite a legacy he's carved out for himslf:rolleyes:

As a dog man, i'm angry.
 
smarta5150;1470591 said:
What do you guys think about clubbing baby seals?

i think the people that club baby seals should be clubbed by albert pujols.
 
smarta5150;1470613 said:
PS... I didnt raise hell when I heard summer was coming back lol, I actually PMed a mod to find out if it was perma or not.

awww, you do care
 
theogt;1470603 said:
What's your point? Should we amend the constitution and give animals rights? Dogs are property. Human beings can be property, unless the government disallows it.
I'm no lawyer but anti-dog torture laws apparently are constitutional.
 
theogt;1470629 said:
I agree that there should be a moral obligation to take care of the job. I don't agree that there should be a legal obligation.

Well too bad...that's the way it is.

thogt said:
Wait a second. It has a negative impact on society because he broke the law? That's not what we're talking about. I'm talking about dog-fighting. Does it have a negative impact on society that outweighs the owner's interest in the property?

Dog fighting is breaking the law....one in the same.

I'm done with your Neandathral leanings for the night...carry on with the scumbag cause all you like.

You are what you support.
 
theogt;1470595 said:
I don't see the point in outlawing dog fighting, no. Nor chicken-fighting.

How would any of you guys feel if humans were one link lower on the food chain, and millions of us yearly were subjected to killing another human? Killing is a violent instinct that brings about the destruction of any culture or society, and to project that as a form of entertainment, wether it be at the expense of human or animal life is a sign of absolute decadence. Animals may not have the same brain capacity as humans, but they do experience pain. Look at the eyes of a cow before it is slaughtered. Look at the eyes of a dog about to bite the face of another, or fearing the same result to himself. Then you will know why dog fighting/ cockfighting is illegal.
 
theogt;1470622 said:
A social contract with dogs? Now, I've seen some iffy arguments before. ;)

By the way, dogs are recognized as property in every state that I'm aware of. Yes, they're very cute and cuddly, and sometimes they're your best friend, but they ARE property.
They are recognized as property that you're not allowed to torture.
 
Bleu Star;1470597 said:
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That has got to be one of the most ****ed Up things among many that people do to animals.

I would love to take a club to those peoples heads...And I'm dead serious about that.

I would have absolutely no problem whatsoever clubbing those people to death.
 
ConcordCowboy;1470664 said:
That has got to be one of the most ****ed Up things among many that people do to animals.

I would love to take a club to those peoples heads...And I'm dead serious about that.

I would have absolutely no problem whatsoever clubbing those people to death.
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Clubbed to Death.

Cool song.
 
ConcordCowboy;1470664 said:
That has got to be one of the most ****ed Up things among many that people do to animals.

I would love to take a club to those peoples heads...And I'm dead serious about that.

I would have absolutely no problem whatsoever clubbing those people to death.

:hammer:
 

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