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Portis, Gibbs Differ on His Status
Coach Says He's Out, Back Says Maybe Not

By Howard Bryant
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 16, 2006; Page E01

Washington Commanders Coach Joe Gibbs said yesterday that running back Clinton Portis's status for tomorrow's game against the Dallas Cowboys would be downgraded to doubtful and that Ladell Betts would start. The announcement ushered in a new round of confusion regarding Portis's status as he recovers from a shoulder injury he suffered during the team's first preseason game more than a month ago.

"He didn't practice, so we'll probably downgrade him," Gibbs said. "It's really just because of soreness. We haven't been able to get the soreness out. It's actually in a different spot in his shoulder. I think it's an issue where he's got some soreness that lingered and kept him from practicing this week, so we'll downgrade him."

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"I can't do anything but tell you to wait until Sunday. This bag is going to Dallas," said an injured Clinton Portis. "We've seen some miracle days happen. This isn't a situation for me not to be playing." (By John Mcdonnell -- The Washington Post)


But for the second consecutive week, Gibbs and his star running back did not communicate the same message about his health. After practice, Portis expressed surprise when informed that he could be kept out of tomorrow's game.

"I can't do anything but tell you to wait until Sunday. This bag is going to Dallas," Portis said. "We've seen some miracle days happen. This isn't a situation for me not to be playing."

Portis said he felt that the Commanders coaches assumed he felt worse physically than last week. "I think that's what they're thinking, but man, I'll tell you, I eat gunpowder twice a day now," he said. "As long as I'm on this gunpowder, I think I'm going to be all right."

Portis, who rushed for a Commanders-record 1,516 yards last season, said for most of last week before Monday night's game that his injured left shoulder would prevent him from playing in the home opener against the Minnesota Vikings. Then Portis ran onto the field with 3 minutes 34 seconds remaining in the first quarter. Wearing a special harness that limited the mobility of his left shoulder, he rushed 10 times for 39 yards and scored the Commanders' only touchdown in a 19-16 loss.

Before the Minnesota game, Portis said it was unlikely that he would play while Gibbs said Portis had increased his workload and that he wasn't ruling him out.

The intrigue about Portis's health appears in part to be gamesmanship on the Commanders' part to keep Dallas off-balance, but it is difficult to say how much so. Because Commanders practices are closed except for stretching drills, it is unclear just how much Portis practiced this week. On yesterday's injury report, Portis was listed as having missed at least a portion of every practice this week. Though Portis was in helmet and pads yesterday, Gibbs said he did not practice with the team.

Gibbs said last week that Portis practiced a basically normal schedule, and he appeared in the Vikings game. Yesterday, Gibbs said because Portis didn't practice this week, he likely would not play in Dallas.

"If a guy doesn't practice, he's not going to play, so we'll downgrade him," Gibbs said. "He'll probably tell me he can play on game day, but he didn't practice so we'll move him down accordingly."

But Portis said his practice schedule this week was no different than last.

"I ran a few routes, not much, the same thing I did last week," he said, adding that the confusion over his status was surprising.

"I didn't know anything about it," Portis said about being downgraded. "I don't make the decisions around here. The best way to say it is that I'm a game-time decision. Clinton Portis is on his P's and Q's."

Earlier in the week, the Commanders had listed Portis as questionable, which by NFL rules means he had a 50-50 chance of playing against Dallas. By shifting his status to doubtful, Portis now has a 25 percent chance of playing, according to NFL rules.

Betts rushed eight times for 22 yards against the Vikings on Monday; his longest gain was seven yards. He also caught three passes for 31 yards, including a 25-yarder.

The Commanders also have bruising back T.J. Duckett, acquired late last month from the Atlanta Falcons. His arrival appeared to signal caution on the part of the Commanders with regard to Portis's health, meaning had Portis's injury kept him from playing, the running game would have insurance in the form of a capable, veteran back whose punishing style provided a contrast to the slashing Betts. Duckett wound up in uniform but did not play against Minnesota.

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I'd go with Portis' claims before Gibbs.

Not just because the final arbiter of player health is usually the player himself, but because Gibbs' demotion to figure head makes it appear he ain't making any decisions on who plays anyway. Why should he? He runs neither the O nor the D.

Now if Al Saunders says Portis isn't starting or playing, I'd buy it.
 

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This charade by Gibbs is embarrassing. Does he really think all this is somehow going to catch the Cowboys off guard? Parcells said that they plan on seeing Portis Sunday in spite of the reports. Portis played against Minnesota, he'll play at Dallas.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
I'd go with Portis' claims before Gibbs.

Not just because the final arbiter of player health is usually the player himself, but because Gibbs' demotion to figure head makes it appear he ain't making any decisions on who plays anyway. Why should he? He runs neither the O nor the D.

Now if Al Saunders says Portis isn't starting or playing, I'd buy it.

Very well said!

All Gibbs does is stand on the sideline and spit...all the time! Every time the camera is on him, there he is...spitting, spitting...what is wrong with that little rat faced man!
 

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Very well said!

All Gibbs does is stand on the sideline and spit...all the time! Every time the camera is on him, there he is...spitting, spitting...what is wrong with that little rat faced man!

:laugh1: Dude... you really hate Gibbs. I'm not too fond of him, myself.


On ExtremeSkins, they did a vote asking if Gibbs and Portis couldn't co-exist, who would the fans want to go... and there were a lot more votes for Gibbs to go than I thought there would be. Just goes to show you how dumb a lot of the Commanders fans really are. Let their Hall of Fame coach go to keep an admittedly good RB... As if a thug RB from "Tha 'U'" is more valuable to the team than Gibbs. They must've forgotten already what it's like to have the Pettibone, Turner and Spurrier types coaching the team.:rolleyes:

A lot of them said, "We'd still have Williams and Saunders". Pity they're really that stupid.
 

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5Stars said:
Very well said!

All Gibbs does is stand on the sideline and spit...all the time! Every time the camera is on him, there he is...spitting, spitting...what is wrong with that little rat faced man!
He's become pathetic.

What a joke that a Hall of Fame coach has nominal control over personnel (right, with Snyder), has a DC under him being paid HC money not to go anywhere because he's the Heir Obvious, and it's GREG's D.

Now it's AL's O, and Joe is squeezed out among three younger and more dynamic individuals.

As annoying as Tuna not giving up more offensive control is, at LEAST he's still the man in charge. Not some puppet on the sidelines there for Snyder to reap nostalgia off.

Well, at least Joe knew he couldn't run things anymore.

But he'd be more honorable if he just hauled off back to NASCAR, then standing around usurped and collecting his five mil a year.
 

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Waffle said:
This charade by Gibbs is embarrassing. Does he really think all this is somehow going to catch the Cowboys off guard? Parcells said that they plan on seeing Portis Sunday in spite of the reports. Portis played against Minnesota, he'll play at Dallas.

I totally agree. Its juvenile and the extent to which Gibbs does this should probably be frowned upon by the league and at some point penalized. He does this all the time.
It's something a high school coach might do.....
if he were a whiny, pouty, little B****.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
He's become pathetic.

What a joke that a Hall of Fame coach has nominal control over personnel (right, with Snyder), has a DC under him being paid HC money not to go anywhere because he's the Heir Obvious, and it's GREG's D.

Now it's AL's O, and Joe is squeezed out among three younger and more dynamic individuals.

As annoying as Tuna not giving up more offensive control is, at LEAST he's still the man in charge. Not some puppet on the sidelines there for Snyder to reap nostalgia off.

Well, at least Joe knew he couldn't run things anymore.

But he'd be more honorable if he just hauled off back to NASCAR, then standing around usurped and collecting his five mil a year.

He's so irrelevant now, he's basically been relegated to doing the injury report and not much else. With Williams and Saunders at the controls, it's quite possible it is the only thing left he has to do. How else do you explain all the "drama and suspense" he's adding to to it?

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Waffle said:
He's so irrelevant now, he's basically been relegated to doing the injury report and not much else. :D

We might as well give up trying to bait some Skins fans with over-the-top Gibbs bashing, Waffle.;)

They evidently don't care enough anymore to defend him.

Wow, what a diff from just two years ago, when the "Second Coming" was upon us.:D
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
He's become pathetic.

What a joke that a Hall of Fame coach has nominal control over personnel (right, with Snyder), has a DC under him being paid HC money not to go anywhere because he's the Heir Obvious, and it's GREG's D.

Now it's AL's O, and Joe is squeezed out among three younger and more dynamic individuals.

As annoying as Tuna not giving up more offensive control is, at LEAST he's still the man in charge. Not some puppet on the sidelines there for Snyder to reap nostalgia off.


Um, you do know Gibbs is the team president, right? He hired both those guys. Nobody's being squeezed, but someone is planning for the future of the team - unlike a certain Bledsoe-loving HC in Dallas. And before we start talking about "the man in charge", need I remind you of your recent FA acquisitions? "Bill, this is Terrell, he'll be our starting WR. And you've already met Mike, right?", said Mr. Jones.
 

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Um, you do know Gibbs is the team president, right? He hired both those guys. Nobody's being squeezed, but someone is planning for the future of the team - unlike a certain Bledsoe-loving HC in Dallas. And before we start talking about "the man in charge", need I remind you of your recent FA acquisitions? "Bill, this is Terrell, he'll be our starting WR. And you've already met Mike, right?", said Mr. Jones.
Finally!!

So it's the "club president's" strategy to deplete years of draft picks for overpaid, overage stop-gaps...way to look out for that future, all right!
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
I'd go with Portis' claims before Gibbs.

Not just because the final arbiter of player health is usually the player himself, but because Gibbs' demotion to figure head makes it appear he ain't making any decisions on who plays anyway. Why should he? He runs neither the O nor the D.

Now if Al Saunders says Portis isn't starting or playing, I'd buy it.

And Saunders has talked about a player not playing when ?

Gibbs has his hand in more cookie jars for certain. But he is not out of touch (as far as I have seen) with any unit.
 

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Finally!!

So it's the "club president's" strategy to deplete years of draft picks for overpaid, overage stop-gaps...way to look out for that future, all right!

Hey, if you're not going to actually coach - you need something to do.

Gibbs was bored. So he got some pathetic "stars" :laugh2: so he could kick some tail on madden. Their overinflated ratings really make quite the team.

Plus, you get to use 100% of the playbook. And score more than 16.

It's phenomenal.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
Finally!!

So it's the "club president's" strategy to deplete years of draft picks for overpaid, overage stop-gaps...way to look out for that future, all right!

I was wondering what was taking so long!! :D

Actually, I was wrong earlier when I said Gibbs had been relegated to just the team's injury report. He's also currently in charge of the team's official "VCR", where he can make copy after copy of supposed blown calls made by the refs against the Commanders. Not sure whether he personally mails these tapes to the NFL or if that is one of Tom Cruise's new duties.
 

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I was wondering what was taking so long!! :D

Actually, I was wrong earlier when I said Gibbs had been relegated to just the team's injury report. He's also currently in charge of the team's official "VCR", where he can make copy after copy of supposed blown calls made by the refs against the Commanders. Not sure whether he personally mails these tapes to the NFL or if that is one of Tom Cruise's new duties.

Tom Cruise's duties include spiritual leader, along with honorary douchebag.

It's a "tall" order, but I think he's up to it.

I sense, as the season goes along, he and the Dan will work on coming out of that closet. They could be holding hands in the box by years end. It's totally non-sexual on alien planets.
 

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Waffle said:
Not sure whether he personally mails these tapes to the NFL or if that is one of Tom Cruise's new duties.
:laugh2:

Joe mails them....Cruise does the 'whine overs' and provides the sobbing, bleating and sundry other crybaby sound effects.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
He's become pathetic.

What a joke that a Hall of Fame coach has nominal control over personnel (right, with Snyder), has a DC under him being paid HC money not to go anywhere because he's the Heir Obvious, and it's GREG's D.

Now it's AL's O, and Joe is squeezed out among three younger and more dynamic individuals.

As annoying as Tuna not giving up more offensive control is, at LEAST he's still the man in charge. Not some puppet on the sidelines there for Snyder to reap nostalgia off.

Well, at least Joe knew he couldn't run things anymore.

But he'd be more honorable if he just hauled off back to NASCAR, then standing around usurped and collecting his five mil a year.


Typical Patriots/Cowboys Fan. :confused:

Yet Gibbs retired and Parcells still hasnt got that 3rd ring.

The student (Lil' Bill) has fared better over the years than the teacher.

Throwing stones.
 

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superpunk said:
Tom Cruise's duties include spiritual leader, along with honorary douchebag.

Wow, he's definitely got that covered...:lmao2:
 
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