A'Shawn Robinson DT Alabama

DBOY3141 · Jan 7, 2016

I can see the Ravens getting him in the top 10.

tyke1doe · Jan 7, 2016

Doc50 said:
I would be fine with a proven FA like Fairly. But as indicated above, Robinson is a beast, and could be a cornerstone interior lineman.

What has Fairley proven? :huh:

tyke1doe · Jan 7, 2016

Manwiththeplan said:
I actually would not mind a trade down scenario where we pick Robinson, and then trade back into the late first for Carson Wentz (assuming he has a really good senior bowl week).

If he has a really good Senior Bowl week, he might be gone before the late first round.

tyke1doe · Jan 7, 2016

Manwiththeplan said:
even if he was a second round prospect, it may be worth trading up from #35 to get get him in the first just so we control his rights for another year.

#34

BrAinPaiNt · Jan 7, 2016

Alexander said:
Saw a mock that had him going to Dallas at #4 today. I laughed.

I think I saw that...must have been a bleacher report link on Yahoo.

Doc50 · Jan 7, 2016

tyke1doe said:
What has Fairley proven?

Blue chip player for Auburn,where he won defensive SEC POY, Lombardi Award, and BCS Nat'l Champ defensive MVP, in 2010 season.

He's been injury prone, so medical eval would be important. Played well alongside Suh in Detroit before injured. 27 yo.

Manwiththeplan · Jan 7, 2016

tyke1doe said:
#34

forgot new England had their pick taken

JPostSam · Jan 7, 2016

egn22 said:
They used to say we don't draft Oline in the 1st.... Now we have one of the best Olines in the league w 3 1st rounders.
You just never know

good point -- and we drafted d-linemen in the 2nd round for two years in a row.

tyke1doe · Jan 7, 2016

Doc50 said:
Blue chip player for Auburn,where he won defensive SEC POY, Lombardi Award, and BCS Nat'l Champ defensive MVP, in 2010 season.

He's been injury prone, so medical eval would be important. Played well alongside Suh in Detroit before injured. 27 yo.

So, again, I ask, "What has Fairley proven?"

Rogerthat12 · Jan 7, 2016

gimmesix said:
Doesn't sound like he's strictly a 1-tech, though. He could play the nose for run purposes, but also stay in the game on passing downs.

I must admit I'm biased, though. I want a monster on the interior line that forces double-teams and can beat them with power and speed.

When Tampa was at it's best, it had Booger McFarland lined up next to Warren Sapp to create a formidable interior to go along with Rice on the outside.

I don't know where Robinson will end up being rated, but if he is top five, I'd have no problem with Dallas taking him.

I am with you on wanting that interior monster, I still find it perplexing how this team has seemed to undervalue this essential position.

This player is a beast!

Doc50 · Jan 8, 2016

tyke1doe said:
So, again, I ask, "What has Fairley proven?"

Same question asked last year about D-Mac.

tyke1doe · Jan 8, 2016

Doc50 said:
Same question asked last year about D-Mac.

Fairley hasn't done anything worthy of a first-round draft choice. He hasn't proven ANYTHING other than improve the value of the training room.

Plankton · Jan 8, 2016

tyke1doe said:
So, again, I ask, "What has Fairley proven?"

That he is unreliable.

CowboysLegend365 · Jan 8, 2016

Robinson is an animal. He could have started on 20 NFL teams this year. One of the strongest players in the nation and also freakishly athletic. Not the sexy pick some want but I think he helps this team out IMMEDIATELY.

This reminds me of 2014 when we should have gotten our hands on Aaron Donald as our 3Tech of the future, let's not trade back too far and miss this gem.

superonyx · Jan 8, 2016

Meh....

These DT's don't have the impact on the game as other positions.

Aaron Donald is a beast right? Suh? Fletcher Cox?

These guys are all "beast" ....so what does that do for their teams defenses?
Let's take a look...

Eagles 30Th
Dolphins 25th
Rams 23rd....

This is a passing league. McFadden was the 4th best RB in the NFL this year and he broke 1000 yards in the last game. The top 5 RB's barely broke 1000 yards. The top 5 WR's are between 1450-1871 yards...

Pass on the fat boys and take some skill positions.

Manwiththeplan · Jan 8, 2016

superonyx said:
Meh....

These DT's don't have the impact on the game as other positions.

Aaron Donald is a beast right? Suh? Fletcher Cox?

These guys are all "beast" ....so what does that do for their teams defenses?
Let's take a look...

Eagles 30Th
Dolphins 25th
Rams 23rd....

This is a passing league. McFadden was the 4th best RB in the NFL this year and he broke 1000 yards in the last game. The top 5 RB's barely broke 1000 yards. The top 5 WR's are between 1450-1871 yards...

Pass on the fat boys and take some skill positions.

fwiw, Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox aren't run stopping DTs, like Robinson (or at least what he projects to be).

But I'd still say your logic is partially right and is the main reason we don't really value the 1-tech/NT position. However, even in a passing league, having a guy like Robinson means you can stop the run with your front four, meaning your LBers can focus more on pass coverage.

Manwiththeplan · Jan 8, 2016

CowboysLegend365 said:
Robinson is an animal. He could have started on 20 NFL teams this year. One of the strongest players in the nation and also freakishly athletic. Not the sexy pick some want but I think he helps this team out IMMEDIATELY.

This reminds me of 2014 when we should have gotten our hands on Aaron Donald as our 3Tech of the future, let's not trade back too far and miss this gem.

You know we didn't trade back and he went before our pick, right?

kiheikiwi · Jan 8, 2016

superonyx said:
Meh....

These DT's don't have the impact on the game as other positions.

Aaron Donald is a beast right? Suh? Fletcher Cox?

These guys are all "beast" ....so what does that do for their teams defenses?
Let's take a look...

Eagles 30Th
Dolphins 25th
Rams 23rd....

This is a passing league. McFadden was the 4th best RB in the NFL this year and he broke 1000 yards in the last game. The top 5 RB's barely broke 1000 yards. The top 5 WR's are between 1450-1871 yards...

Pass on the fat boys and take some skill positions.

I think you have a point - to a point ...
Depending what we do with our DE's i.e. Hardy etc. We have our up the field rushers in place, and if Gregory can develop .....
Now, we need to compliment that outside rush with strength up the middle. Like we did on the O-line, LT then Center, then guard. If Crawford comes back healthy at 3-tech, and with Irving backing him up, A stout 1-tech rounds off the D-line, like we did with the O-line. With DT, if not our first pick or even trade down pick, I would be looking HARD at all the 2nd round graded DT's. We absolutely have to find a player. Wish someone like Billings or Broadus's new pet cat Rankins would available then.
By the way, I would take any one of the 3 you mentioned, preferably Fletcher Cox.

CowboysLegend365 · Jan 8, 2016

Manwiththeplan said:
You know we didn't trade back and he went before our pick, right?

I am aware we didn't trade back then, I was referring to the idea of trading back too far in '16. There was talk of us not needing to move up because he would fall to us and didn't.

Manwiththeplan · Jan 8, 2016

CowboysLegend365 said:
I am aware we didn't trade back then, I was referring to the idea of trading back too far in '16. There was talk of us not needing to move up because he would fall to us and didn't.

Even with hindsight, can you honestly say Aaron Donald is better than Zack Martin+Demarcus Lawrence?

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