Aside from Zeke's 66 yard run

[Yakuza Rich]

Most of a RB's runs are for 1 or 2 or 3 yards. They typically have a bunch of those and then they have a few long carries. The deviation is quite large for good running backs. For somebody like Barry Sanders, the deviation in carries was enormous and he was the player that showed having too large of a deviation can be detrimental.




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[Clove]

So you think we'd be 9-6 without Prescott, which would essentially mean Zeke gives us a 5 game swing over last year since he'd be the only actual new piece to the offensive equation this year if we take Dak out (and assuming TR still got hurt). That kind of undermines your own argument a bit since one non QB player accounting for a 5 game swing is a pretty big deal. My objective question to you in response to this, is what do you think our record would be right now with Prescott at QB but without Zeke at RB? Legitimately curious.

Disclaimer - I'm a fan of both players and am absolutely elated at what both have accomplished for us this year.

Same record.

 

[WeaponX]

Same record.

Same as in 9-6 or same as in 13-2?

 

[Clove]

Buffalo is the best running team in the league. What's their record?

 

[Clove]

What's Tennessee's record, what's San Francisco's record. We're the only ones from the top 4 with a superior record with a good running attack. I love love love Ezekiel Elliott. I really do, but without Dak Prescott, this team is not very good.

 

[WeaponX]

I agree with the last part (not very good w/o Dak), but I don't think we win 13 games without Zeke. I think we're a good team (good being 9-11 wins, which in the NFL, is a "pretty good" team) in an either/or scenario, but it is the combination of both players that has made the team elite this season.

Do we win in Pittsburgh without Zeke?

 

[DFWJC]

This guy always has an angle to pump Dak up. Dak is doing his own talking on the field, btw.

Gabe did not post on this forum pre-Dak, and would not be posting here now if we hadn't drafted Dak.
In other words, the absolute very definition of fan of a player and not of a team.
This is a promise--if Dak was an Eagle or a Giant, Gabe would be pulling for those teams over Dallas in a big way.

That's his right, but it is also fact.

And yes, his post WAS meant to minimize the efforts of Zeke....to shine a bigger light on Dak.

 

[Gabe]

This guy always has an angle to pump Dak up. Dak is doing his own talking on the field, btw.

Gabe did not post on this forum pre-Dak, and would not be posting here now if we hadn't drafted Dak.
In other words, the absolute very definition of fan of a player and not of a team.
This is a promise--if Dak was an Eagle or a Giant, Gabe would be pulling for those teams over Dallas in a big way.

That's his right, but it is also fact.

And yes, his post WAS meant to minimize the efforts of Zeke....to shine a bigger light on Dak.

Funny how some people get so offended when someone mentions something positive about Dak. I wonder why? He was leading the Cowboys last time I checked and is a Cowboy.

I can't imagine how much this article offended some people because it compared him to Tom Brady, a very valid comparison by the way.

We all became Cowboys because of different reasons, mine was Dak. I don't know why you have such a problem with that.

 

[DFWJC]

Funny how some people get so offended when someone mentions something positive about Dak. I wonder why? He was leading the Cowboys last time I checked and is a Cowboy.

I can't imagine how much this article offended some people because it compared him to Tom Brady, a very valid comparison by the way.

We all became Cowboys because of different reasons, mine was Dak. I don't know why you have such a problem with that.

Maybe some people are offended. I'm not. Dak deserves a ton of credit. He's been outstanding.
My post was not about that at all.

 

[Doomsday]

Dez isn't getting those 1-on-1 match ups on the outside if it isn't for Zeke and the running game.

One long run or even the threat of a one long run like that strikes fear into your opponents and sets up a lot of this offense.

 

[etw926]

Can I get banned if I accidently said the OP is an idiot?

We agree.

 

[zrinkill]

Funny how some people get so offended when someone mentions something positive about Dak..

They do not ....... they get offended when non cowboy fans say stupid things.

 

[Sarge]

There are a **** ton of RBs in this league looking for one long run per game........and they aren't getting it.

 

[Sarge]

Can I get banned if I accidently said the OP is an idiot?

Yes you can.

 

[rpntex]

Bottom line is, 4-12, in comes Dak, now 13-2. Now if you believe Zeke is the sole reason for the turn around, then let's put Sanchez behind center all these games. The world will soon realize how special Dak is.

The addition of Zeke, as well as the absence of anything closely resembling a quality backup QB in 2015, are the two biggest factors for the turnaround.

If Dak had been the backup last year, I think Dallas goes 10-6 at worst. The addition of Zeke this year brings it up to a 13-14 win level. Conversely, if Romo had stayed healthy last year, Dallas ends up at 10-6 or better, and this year we're looking at 12-4 or so.

The biggest single difference is having a RB that can score from any place on the field. It forces defense's to overload against the run, and HOPE the QB can't beat you on his own. Some teams can do that (Giants, Vikings), but most can't.

 

[Clove]

The addition of Zeke, as well as the absence of anything closely resembling a quality backup QB in 2015, are the two biggest factors for the turnaround.

If Dak had been the backup last year, I think Dallas goes 10-6 at worst. The addition of Zeke this year brings it up to a 13-14 win level. Conversely, if Romo had stayed healthy last year, Dallas ends up at 10-6 or better, and this year we're looking at 12-4 or so.

The biggest single difference is having a RB that can score from any place on the field. It forces defense's to overload against the run, and HOPE the QB can't beat you on his own. Some teams can do that (Giants, Vikings), but most can't.

Are you up to explaining why we're 13-2 with a new QB, yet Buffalo, San Francisco and Tennessee can't make the playoffs and they have strong running attacks?

 

[iceberg]

He had approximately 20 yards on 11 carries. I like Zeke as much as the next guy, but he is often pointed to as the main reason this offense is insanely good. He absolutely contributes to the offense being good, but it is telling that we can put up 42 points even though he only accounted for ONE long run and many 1 and 2 yard runs. He also only had 12 carries in our biggest offensive performance to date.

This isn't meant to minimize his efforts. Again, he is AWESOME. But, the other guys deserve a LOT if not more credit.

hey man, take away his 11 carries for 20 yards he averaged 66 yards a carry...

we can twist things to our preference all day long. but why? mad at zeke? upset we didn't take your pet?

 

[iceberg]

The point he's making is, Zeke isn't more valuable than Dak. Last year we were 4-12 with a great offensive line and a capable back. This year, insert Dak, we're 13-2.

That's his point which I agree with.

why can we never seem to realize together as a team is what made us 13-2? why do we have to single out our favorite players as the sole reason?

 

[Clove]

why can we never seem to realize together as a team is what made us 13-2? why do we have to single out our favorite players as the sole reason?

Because first off, Dak is not my favorite player, and secondly, if this were Romo QBing, we wouldn't hear the end of how wonderful Romo's been. That's why

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

He was bottled up bc the Lions had to respect him, which obviously helps Dak be Dak