At 1/4 Season: Free Agent RB performance

[Stash]

And some people never look at the good side, they always look at the bad side...guess it's just in their personality

Some people look at both sides.

While some can't bear it.

 

[Frosty]

So our RBBC is having more success than the Eagles 2 highly payed, highly vaunted RB's, that some of our fans want to cram down our throat.....ok...
And we don't have our QB or WR playing.....

At least in the 1st half....

 

[superonyx]

And some people never look at the good side, they always look at the bad side...guess it's just in their personality

2-3 with 3 straight losses.
Going from the best running team in the league to a team that will be 100% dependent on Romo to be a magician and will us to victories makes the good side of Randle, McFadden, and 1 carry Michael a bit hard to see.

Perhaps you can help.

 

[xwalker]

If you're only looking at total yards, I guess you could see it that way. Matthews' 5.02 average is far above what any of our backs are producing.

As I said before, small sample sizes for RBs lead to stats with little value; however, if you want to disregard the small sample size, Lance Dunbar has a 13.4 ypc.

 

[birdwells1]

i was one of the first to beg for CJ...got told he wouldnt do anything more in this league LOL, jokes on them.

The worst part about it is CJ was begging for the Cowboys to sign him.

 

[Stash]

As I said before, small sample sizes for RBs lead to stats with little value; however, if you want to disregard the small sample size, Lance Dunbar has a 13.4 ypc.

Yet it's OK for you to use them when you want to lump them together for the sake of criticism or to try to get the Cowboys off the hook for screwing up on Chris Johnson?

How clearly hypocritical.

 

[superonyx]

The worst part about it is CJ was begging for the Cowboys to sign him.

I think his actually words were "Dallas come Hollar at me".

 

[DandyDon52]

chris is doing good in Arizona, but that does not mean he would do good here,
more things wrong here than just no romo and dez.

 

[RunDMC]

Yet it's OK for you to use them when you want to lump them together for the sake of criticism or to try to get the Cowboys off the hook for screwing up on Chris Johnson?

How clearly hypocritical.

How did Chris Johnson do in New York?

 

[Stash]

How did Chris Johnson do in New York?

How did your namesake do - anywhere?

 

[Stash]

chris is doing good in Arizona, but that does not mean he would do good here,
more things wrong here than just no romo and dez.

Does it mean he wouldn't?

The fact is that he's doing well with his given opportunity while this team is still shaking it up, throwing things against the wall, and hoping one of 'em sticks.

Not a great plan.

 

[DFWJC]

How did Chris Johnson do in New York?

Only year in his 7 year career he didn't get 1000 yards. He was a part time back and ended up with 663 yards and 4.3 ypc.

 

[RunDMC]

How did your namesake do - anywhere?

Don't see what McFadden has to do with it.

Someone is getting defensive.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

And some people never look at the good side, they always look at the bad side...guess it's just in their personality

What's the good side? Our backs can play the first 30 minutes of a sixty minute game?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Only year in his 7 year career he didn't get 1000 yards. He was a part time back and ended up with 663 yards and 4.3 ypc.

Saved me the typing, thanks.

 

[gimmesix]

As I said before, small sample sizes for RBs lead to stats with little value; however, if you want to disregard the small sample size, Lance Dunbar has a 13.4 ypc.

And I agree to an extent. You're not going to be able to tell much about a back with very few carries in a game. One carry can skew the whole equation. However, you can see patterns develop with backs receiving the amount of carries Randle is getting in a game or the amount Chris Johnson is getting in a game. Doesn't mean it won't take one or two breakway runs right now to boost Randle's numbers. (In fact, you could say his numbers already have been boosted by a couple of decent runs and would be abysmal without them.)

Now, the number of carries is still low for Randle, which is why I haven't been on board the he sucks, get rid of him bus. However, his efforts through five games are enough to tell me that there is reason to believe he's not the answer and Dallas would have been better off if it had considered other options when it had the chance to consider them.

But as to the post you were responding to, there are really only a few things we can look at to judge the value of a back (without in-depth analysis) and total yards is a very poor metric. I've said before that I prefer YPC because it at least tells you how the back is averaging out in his attempts, but small sample sizes do skew the average. It's better to get a full picture of a back from down to down to go through each of his carries and find his normal average (throwing out the aberrations). However, do that for any back and his numbers aren't going to be as good. Most end up in the 4 to 5 range, and they do it with a few longer runs mixed it.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Chris Johnson a steal so far.

http://arizonasports.com/story/409084/cardinals-signing-of-chris-johnson-proving-to-be-a-big-steal/


"A comparison of running backs who switched teams this year:

Player (Team)___________ATT__Yards_Avg.TD
Chris Johnson (Arizona)____79__405___5.12
Frank Gore (Indy)_________76__325___4.33
DeAngelo Williams (Pitt)____49__231___4.73
Ryan Mathews (Philly)_____41__205___5.02
LeSean McCoy (Buffalo)___43__146___3.40
DeMarco Murray (Philly)___49__130___2.72
Darren McFadden (Dal)___37__129___3.51
Shane Vereen (NYG)_____25__101__4.00
C.J. Spiller (NO)_________9___13___.40

Sometimes you get what you pay for. And sometimes, not often, you get a lot more for your money. The Arizona Cardinals just purchased a car with a lot of miles on it on the cheap, but it runs great."

For starters, it's far to early to declare anyone the 'winner' of any kind of free agent performance. Crowning anyone the champ of that just 1/4 of the way through the season makes no sense. Onto Arizona, while CJ's numbers look pretty decent now there is a reason - Ellington has been hurt and the rookie Johnson is just getting up to speed. Once Ellington returns to full time CJ will see his carries drop.

 

[DFWJC]

For starters, it's far to early to declare anyone the 'winner' of any kind of free agent performance. Crowning anyone the champ of that just 1/4 of the way through the season makes no sense. Onto Arizona, while CJ's numbers look pretty decent now there is a reason - Ellington has been hurt and the rookie Johnson is just getting up to speed. Once Ellington returns to full time CJ will see his carries drop.

Yeah. it's just 1/4 of a season.
This thread was for an update on how everyone was doing so far.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Call me nutty, but I don't think Johnson would do good in Dallas. This team needs a RB that can work with the O-line to punish a defense. Guys like Johnson just aren't an ideal fit imo.

Ironically, neither are Randle and McFadden, which is why Dallas traded for Michael and is still scouring the trash heap for running backs.

 

[Stash]

Don't see what McFadden has to do with it.

Someone is getting defensive.

About the same thing that "New York" does.

I think someone should do more thinking and less typing.