At some point, Dak has to take a look in the mirror!

[RonnieT24]

Everyone remembers Marino but very few others from that team that never won a super bowl.

Mark Clayton, Mark Duper, Jimmy Cefalo, Nat Moore, Dwight Stevenson, Aundra Franklin, Irving Fryar, "The Killer B's" Defense with Baumhower, Betters, Brudzkinski,and Bokamper? You right hardly anybody remembers those guys.. At least casual fans don't. Thankfully, I'm not a casual fan.

 

[RonnieT24]

It is really just an attempt to help women understand and follow football. They don't understand the game, but might be able to follow a QB or 2. It has exposed a lot of men who think they understand the game.

The one that really annoys me is when people say one QB beat the other QB. I mean they are on the field at the same time on two occasions at most, the coin flip and the post-game handshake. The whole thing is just high level stoopid.

 

[Mikexike]

The one that really annoys me is when people say one QB beat the other QB. I mean they are on the field at the same time on two occasions at most, the coin flip and the post-game handshake. The whole thing is just high level stoopid.

Or you get a qb that makes mistakes against a starting def vs a qb that makes plays against a second string def. Pure stupidity.

 

[OGSixshooter]

At some point, Dak-haters have to take a look at the stats and the Cowboys won-loss record with Dak as the starter.

I'm not going to repeat the stats. I should have saved all the stats compiled when comparing him to the other QB's in NFL history. Most of his numbers are at the top of the lists.

As far as his won-loss record as a starter, the primary goal of a QB is to lead his team to victory, whether he is required to be the primary contributor or not. Part of his job is to get the ball efficiently to the primary contributors

There are 13 Cowboys QB's that have started 10 or more games in franchise history.

Dak has the fourth best winning percentage as a starting QB for the team, the best since the early to mid 80's when the Cowboys were in the last third of their 20-year streak of winning seasons. The top three were all participants in that 20 year streak, Staubach, Morton, and White.

Dak didn't get the offensive tools of the dynasty years. The Cowboys defense was a top 8 for 16 consecutive years. They were a top 3 defense for 7 of those years.

Dak's record as a starter is over an impressive span. After this season, Dak will have the 2nd most QB starts in Cowboys history, behind only Aikman.

Dak should have no problem looking at himself in the mirror, He knows his contributions and he has always known that he can't do it by himself. If only more fans realized this.

I notice how you credit Dak with all the victories whilst saddling his teammates as dead weight. Stop. The #1 scoring defense the last 3 years GIFTED Dak multiple possession drives and short fields. This is all BS window dressing.

If you stay in a job long enough you'll have numbers.

 

[Chasing6]

The one that really annoys me is when people say one QB beat the other QB. I mean they are on the field at the same time on two occasions at most, the coin flip and the post-game handshake. The whole thing is just high level stoopid.

I could not agree more.

 

[RonnieT24]

I notice how you credit Dak with all the victories whilst saddling his teammates as dead weight. Stop. The #1 scoring defense the last 3 years GIFTED Dak multiple possession drives and short fields. This is all BS window dressing.

If you stay in a job long enough you'll have numbers.

Sorry but this simply is not true. The Cowboys have had the #1 scoring OFFENSE over the last 3 seasons.. but not defense. The defense has been good in scoring category.. ranking in the top 10. But not #1. They were however #1 in turnovers overall the last three seasons under Dan Quinn. Dak has been a very good QB most of his career in Dallas. He has occasionally been great even phenomenal. And yes sometimes he has been bad.. But his great games outnumber his bad games by a pretty good margin. Newsflash, the Cowboys don't always win when he plays well and they don't always lose when he plays bad. His play obviously plays a huge factor in wins and losses, but simply put.. He aint playin by himself out there. We all want him to crush it every game.. Well most of us who are actual Cowboys fans do anyway. I know there is an element out there praying he falls flat on his face for reasons only they can explain. I root for Dak to succeed partly because of how much it infuriates that bunch! Almost as much as I just love seeing my team win! Okay maybe not quite that much.. but you get the point.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Does that about cover it?

Not even close.

 

[plasticman]

I notice how you credit Dak with all the victories whilst saddling his teammates as dead weight. Stop. The #1 scoring defense the last 3 years GIFTED Dak multiple possession drives and short fields. This is all BS window dressing.

If you stay in a job long enough you'll have numbers.

No. The numbers that matter aren't about quantity, they are about productivity. TD percentage, completion percentage, etc.

I am not crediting Dak as the primary reason the Cowboys win or lose. I'm crediting Dak as the starting QB when they win or lose. That's because the primary function of a quarterback is to direct the offense in a way that they are efficient enough to win the game.

There are great passers and there are great quarteracks, they aren't necessarily the same. You don't have to be a great passer to find ways to get the ball into the hands of your playmakers, that's what great quarterbacks do.

I'm not saying Dak has been a great quarterback on a consistent basis but he far from being a poor quarterback on a consistent basis.

Again, Dak is not the issue. Hopefully we can agree that if the Cowboys had acquired a quality RB or if the defense was playing up to their potential, then this conversation would not be happening.

 

[plasticman]

Sure, lets take a look at that record - 2-5 in playoff games, the worst in NFL history.

C'mon, not even the worse in Cowboys history.

Meredith was 1-3.

However, I do agree that, much like Romo, he hasn't found a way to be a true difference maker in the playoffs. He may not have directly lost playoff games, but he has nevr been the primary reason for winning them.

 

[john van brocklin]

He has to say to himself, i'm the highest paid player on this team, I'm the leader of this team. I don't need to talk about what needs to get done, or becoming better every week, I need to step up my play. I've been in the league far too long, the Jones family has been great to me and have given me and my family generational wealth. It's time for him to find something deep inside of him and say, I'm going to pay them back for what they've done for me!!!! Please give your thoughts on this!

Takes a look on the mirror and sees a millionaire!
Lol
Take that Cowboys fans.
Just don't expect any Superbowls.

 

[JoeKing]

His failures to withhold the money that could improve his team tend to outweigh his promises to participate in free agency. The Dallas players have unfortunately lost confidence in his willingness to provide the needed funds to spend what it takes to have a contending team this year. It shows in their play. Jerry's "all in" comments did absolutely nothing to inspire confidence in him. I blame him plenty for the outright lies that he offers. He could have had Derrick Henry, who was 100% willing to play for this team. He chose to lie about not being able to afford him. That's your hero.

You talk like there is no salary cap. Jerry didn't "withold" anything. The rollover this year is earmarked to retain guys you want next season like Micah Parsons, and DaRon Bland. In a league with a salary cap, your narrative of withholding money is a myth, and it makes you sound foolish.

 

[LovinItAll]

Stop making strawman and red herrings please. You're dead wrong. The advantage a running QB has over a pocket passer is precisely the case you stated above. You would think that time and sobriety would make you either avoid this post or give the proper mea culpa. Instead you double down on wrong.

A lot of that going around these days. Parlor tricks and cheap theatricality only work on people who need "confidence"...con-man tactics - dis without showing any expertise yourself - is all you got.

I'll take your insults...but you wake up and you're still YOU...so...

You said exactly nothing in your post. Expected.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Mark Clayton, Mark Duper, Jimmy Cefalo, Nat Moore, Dwight Stevenson, Aundra Franklin, Irving Fryar, "The Killer B's" Defense with Baumhower, Betters, Brudzkinski,and Bokamper? You right hardly anybody remembers those guys.. At least casual fans don't. Thankfully, I'm not a casual fan.

I'm a casual fan of the 80's dolphins, if that's what you mean.

Nice google!

My point, which if you are the super fan you claim you are...is QBs get the glory and the flame....a majority of it. You know this.

 

[Coogiguy03]

Takes a look on the mirror and sees a millionaire!
Lol
Take that Cowboys fans.
Just don't expect any Superbowls.

well his house isn't done yet so he can't look yet lol

 

[RonnieT24]

I'm a casual fan of the 80's dolphins, if that's what you mean.

Nice google!

My point, which if you are the super fan you claim you are...is QBs get the glory and the flame....a majority of it. You know this.

Didn't need to googole. I grew up in Orlando and was there from my childhood to 1989.. Growing up the Dolphins were one of the two teams we would see every Sunday rain or shine. Dallas being the other. The Bucs stunk after they parted ways with Doug Williams so we were hardly ever subjected to them. I will correct myself from yesterday when I stated that I don't know when they started all this QB record nonsense. I think it coincided with when Tagliabue and Co. figured out how successful the NBA had been in marketing individual stars over teams. All that Magic, Bird, Jordan, Dr. J marketing in the 80's had taken the NBA from a distant #3 sport in the US behind the NFL and MLB to a solid #2 with the revenues to show for it. Who here remembers that the NBA finals were not shown on live TV until the 1980s? Then in less than a decade they were on every channel. That was when the NFL decided to follow suit and the QB was the logical choice to market as the face of the franchise. It just wasn't like that prior to that paradigm shift. The net result is we now have vastly overvalued and overpaid QBs. Agents are acting as if these damn QBs are out there winning games by themselves and as such need to be paid like it. And teams are having to cave almost every time if the QB is a good one. I pray something happens to get us out of this spiral because no one player should be getting 15-20% of the salary cap. Not in a sport where it takes 40-45 guys to win a game. It doesn't help that for the last 30+ years we've had a ton of ex-QB talking heads droning on about how "it's a passing league." I want to shoot my TV every time I hear that damn phrase. That one and "it's a QB driven league."

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Didn't need to googole. I grew up in Orlando and was there from my childhood to 1989.. Growing up the Dolphins were one of the two teams we would see every Sunday rain or shine. Dallas being the other. The Bucs stunk after they parted ways with Doug Williams so we were hardly ever subjected to them. I will correct myself from yesterday when I stated that I don't know when they started all this QB record nonsense. I think it coincided with when Tagliabue and Co. figured out how successful the NBA had been in marketing individual stars over teams. All that Magic, Bird, Jordan, Dr. J marketing in the 80's had taken the NBA from a distant #3 sport in the US behind the NFL and MLB to a solid #2 with the revenues to show for it. Who here remembers that the NBA finals were not shown on live TV until the 1980s? Then in less than a decade they were on every channel. That was when the NFL decided to follow suit and the QB was the logical choice to market as the face of the franchise. It just wasn't like that prior to that paradigm shift. The net result is we now have vastly overvalued and overpaid QBs. Agents are acting as if these damn QBs are out there winning games by themselves and as such need to be paid like it. And teams are having to cave almost every time if the QB is a good one. I pray something happens to get us out of this spiral because no one player should be getting 15-20% of the salary cap. Not in a sport where it takes 40-45 guys to win a game. It doesn't help that for the last 30+ years we've had a ton of ex-QB talking heads droning on about how "it's a passing league." I want to shoot my TV every time I hear that damn phrase. That one and "it's a QB driven league."

Ah...orlando....I see. I'm in st pete....since 2000.
Yes...qb situation is out of control. Now they do handle the ball more than any other, and run the show....but still need the team.

 

[Chasing6]

I'm a casual fan of the 80's dolphins, if that's what you mean.

Nice google!

My point, which if you are the super fan you claim you are...is QBs get the glory and the flame....a majority of it. You know this.

Causal fans believe the QB gets the glory and the fame. Real fans understand how football is actually played.

 

[Mikexike]

C'mon, not even the worse in Cowboys history.

Meredith was 1-3.

However, I do agree that, much like Romo, he hasn't found a way to be a true difference maker in the playoffs. He may not have directly lost playoff games, but he has nevr been the primary reason for winning them.

This is a problem.

 

[RonnieT24]

C'mon, not even the worse in Cowboys history.

Meredith was 1-3.

However, I do agree that, much like Romo, he hasn't found a way to be a true difference maker in the playoffs. He may not have directly lost playoff games, but he has nevr been the primary reason for winning them.

This is fair.. Dak needs to be willing to take the game by the short hairs and impose his will on it. I have always had a problem with him remaining calm and unbothered on the sidelines when the house is crashing down around him. He has to realize that at some point it's on HIM to be the difference maker. If guys aint blockin he needs to get in their faces and let them know they aint blockin. If receivers are running lazy routes as Troy calls them or misreading the coverages then He needs to get with them on the sidelines in game and figure that out and he needs to be firy, loud and demonstrative about it not cool and calm. Cool and calm doesn't resonate with 90,000 people screaming in the background. He's got to be willing to take off and run over a DB or two to fire the team up. We've barely seen that version of Dak since the injury. It's understandable to an extent but in big games and playoff games quit being careful and get back to being a football player.

 

[RonnieT24]

Ah...orlando....I see. I'm in st pete....since 2000.
Yes...qb situation is out of control. Now they do handle the ball more than any other, and run the show....but still need the team.

St Pete? Oh damn hope you didn't get flooded when those two hurricanes moved the ocean into people's back yards. My company's HQ is in Clearwater.. I think power was out there for 4-5 days and a lot of corporate systems were offline as a result. Apparently the DR sites were ALSO in the path of the hurricanes.. Some place in Carolina.. Go figure..