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Apparently are only interviewing guys for positions they’ve never had. Never been an OC? Come to Dallas! Never been an OL coach? Come to Dallas!
 
If Schottenheimer is going to call plays, it seems likely that's going to eliminate some if not most if not all experienced guys from being interested in the OC job.
 
_sturt_ said:
If Schottenheimer is going to call plays, it seems likely that's going to eliminate some if not most if not all experienced guys from being interested in the OC job.
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This also fits into the Jones strategy of an inexpensive coaching staff.
 
NDGAEDE said:
This also fits into the Jones strategy of an inexpensive coaching staff.
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Not confident that that accusation actually has much substance. That one doesn't choose to pay the head coach much more, if any, than the league average is, in reality, only evidence that he pays... average. And as I reviewed recently all of these staffs that both Schottenheimer and Eberflus have been a part of, some of these teams have notably fewer coaches overall on staff. Dallas is more mainstream than they are an outlier as far as I can tell.

Are the Joneses cheap? I really honestly don't see that. I see what one often finds among wealthy people outside of sports... they question nickel and dime decisions, and don't automatically say yes. That's more about being thoughtful and frugal than it is appropriately labeled as cheap.
 
_sturt_ said:
Not confident that that accusation actually has much substance. That one doesn't choose to pay the head coach much more, if any, than the league average is, in reality, only evidence that he pays... average. And as I reviewed recently all of these staffs that both Schottenheimer and Eberflus have been a part of, some of these teams have notably fewer coaches overall on staff. Dallas is more mainstream than they are an outlier as far as I can tell.

Are the Joneses cheap? I really honestly don't see that. I see what one often finds among wealthy people outside of sports... they question nickel and dime decisions, and don't automatically say yes. That's more about being thoughtful and frugal than it is appropriately labeled as cheap.
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Admittedly, I'm reading into their lack of action in free agency and unwillingness to fire coaches as cheap. We will see how it shakes out with this staff, as to how 'cheap' they are or aren't being. I would wager we end up with one of the lowest paid coaching staffs.

But speaking as a fan, I don't give a crap about how frugal and thoughtful the Joneses are, or how conservative other front offices are. They intentionally do not invest in improving the team, and whether that's average around the league or not, I want my team to throw resources at turning around a franchise mired in 30 years of mediocrity.
 
NDGAEDE said:
I would wager we end up with one of the lowest paid coaching staffs.
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On this much... for 2025... I'm going to agree with that prediction. But/and I think they've been targeting 2025 as their Season of Famine for a long time, considering it the year that they bleach their spreadsheet of most dead money, and their payroll is going to reflect that across the board.

And... sorta related, not completely... until we learn otherwise, I'm persuaded that McCarthy had an insider understanding of that, and was not going to accept such a short term contract that he'd not have much chance to rebound on the other side of 2025.
 
_sturt_ said:
On this much... for 2025... I'm going to agree with that prediction. But/and I think they've been targeting 2025 as their Season of Famine for a long time, considering it the year that they bleach their spreadsheet of most dead money, and their payroll is going to reflect that across the board.

And... sorta related, not completely... until we learn otherwise, I'm persuaded that McCarthy had an insider understanding of that, and was not going to accept such a short term contract that he'd not have much chance to rebound on the other side of 2025.
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That all sounds likely, I agree.
 
Intrigued that we're hearing today about movement on 2 or 3 fronts (STC hire, QBC interview, another DC interview)... but... none of them OC. That strikes me as odd.
 
_sturt_ said:
Intrigued that we're hearing today about movement on 2 or 3 fronts (STC hire, QBC interview, another DC interview)... but... none of them OC. That strikes me as odd.
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It is odd. We heard about Klayton Adams, but nothing confirmed there. And the Koger guy from ATL. But I wouldnt say there is a clear cut favorite, and obviously, that's the next most important position to fill.
 
NDGAEDE said:
Klayton Adams... And the Koger guy
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One reads between the lines that Adams is someone Eberflus has recommended from his IND days, and who plausibly would be thought to take a Bill Callahan-like hybrid OC/O-line coach role.

But they need another minority candidate to interview regardless, and I can't help but think that guy will check off all those boxes... (1) some previous connection to either the HC or the DC... but more likely the HC... (2) considered capable to take on a hybrid role, either as OC/O-line or OC/RB or OC/WR... and (3) sufficient melanin.

So far, the previous connection thing appears to be holding true for the most part. Me, fwiw, I remain bullish on Anthony Lynn and Sanjay Lal.
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
Bingo!!!!!! One less coach to pay
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To be fair, the Cowboys actually have typically employed a slightly larger staff of assistants than most other teams. Indeed, as we all know, Schotty came to the team in a role that was considered unique for any team to employ... I've sometimes wondered if that was a McCarthy brainstorm (seems most likely), or if not, who pushed that into reality.
 
Ranching said:
No love from me, when it comes to quitting. Too many already quit on the next few years....I don't get why they put themselves through hanging around, if it just pisses them off. Sports should be fun, at least I think they should.....but, if this attitude is the way they enjoy it, I guess I just need to back off. I'll try to do better, moving forward.....no promises, but I'll try. But, I will respond if called out.
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I haven't quit as a fan, im just real and choose not to be delusional. This team is the same team wearing a different mask ever since we won our last superbowl. Hype every year, prey on trash teams, stat pad, and no playoff success. Same broken record.
 
ATXSRT said:
I haven't quit as a fan, im just real and choose not to be delusional. This team is the same team wearing a different mask ever since we won our last superbowl. Hype every year, prey on trash teams, stat pad, and no playoff success. Same broken record.
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You're right, but that's half the fun. The excitement of the possibilities and the hope of something different....we were winning 12 games just a couple of years ago....I don't blame fans for being pissed, but complaining about things you can't change is a weakness...at least, that's what Google told me.
 
I still believe whoever the oline coach is for this team is as important or more so than the coordinators.

Needs to absolutely be a home run hire.
Can the Cowboys not steal a young assistant oline guy working with the Ravens, 49ers or Eagles?
Those 3 squads always seem to run the ball well.
More Dinosaur Solari just spells disaster.
 
What about bringing in Roy Istvan as our Oline coach, he has been with the eagles as an assistant for 5 years learning from one of if not the best Oline coaches in the league
 
_sturt_ said:
If Schottenheimer is going to call plays, it seems likely that's going to eliminate some if not most if not all experienced guys from being interested in the OC job.
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Have you paid attention to the rest of the NFL, look at what the lions replace their two alleged superstar coordinators with two guys I've never heard of, you're talking about experience top play callers.. I don't see one of them being that ..

Detroit Lions have agreed to hire Denver Broncos assistant John Morton as offensive coordinator and promote Kelvin Sheppard to defensive coordinator. Do you think these two guys are answer? you know them? top names?? I mean how are they gonna survive missing 2 giant holes and from alleged superstars that they just allowed to walk?

By the way Cohen I know some people thought about him is being great but he only had one year calling plays and now he's the head coach who's he gonna fill his staff out with who are his coordinators going to be it seems like it's pretty watered down with all these teams needing new coordinators I mean who is Pete Carroll and Mike Vrabel filling out their staff with it looks like there's a very small list for a lot of needs..​

what they are is probably the Next up and coming people that are next man up we do that with the players right now we have to do that with the coaches there could be somebody there in the wings that could learn and has the ability to be the next hot coordinator he just never given the shot... So why a bunch of these names that might fill out schottenheimer staff might not be well known or a hot ticket it they may end up turning out to be pretty good...

BTW I've never heard of Liam Cohen before his one good year calling plays with Baker Mayfield and now all the sudden, he's a head coach?? I mean that doesn't make a lot of sense to me he had one year I don't see how he's going to be better than schottenheimer in my opinion 'cause at least schottenheimer had three years doing that successfully with the seattle seahawks..

There's probably a really far outside chances would happen and you're probably right he's probably too big a name to get to come here not be a bigger part of our offense but Bobby slowic and maybe if they come bring him in maybe schottenheimer gives up a little something from the offense to get him here.. But I'm sure he's looking for something bigger.. Probably stay in his division if he can so he can put it back on the Houston team.. Revenge is a good motivator sometimes..
 
blueblood70 said:
Have you paid attention to the rest of the NFL, look at what the lions replace their two alleged superstar coordinators with two guys I've never heard of, you're talking about experience top play callers.. I don't see one of them being that ..

Detroit Lions have agreed to hire Denver Broncos assistant John Morton as offensive coordinator and promote Kelvin Sheppard to defensive coordinator. Do you think these two guys are answer? you know them? top names?? I mean how are they gonna survive missing 2 giant holes and from alleged superstars that they just allowed to walk?

By the way Cohen I know some people thought about him is being great but he only had one year calling plays and now he's the head coach who's he gonna fill his staff out with who are his coordinators going to be it seems like it's pretty watered down with all these teams needing new coordinators I mean who is Pete Carroll and Mike Vrabel filling out their staff with it looks like there's a very small list for a lot of needs..​

what they are is probably the Next up and coming people that are next man up we do that with the players right now we have to do that with the coaches there could be somebody there in the wings that could learn and has the ability to be the next hot coordinator he just never given the shot... So why a bunch of these names that might fill out schottenheimer staff might not be well known or a hot ticket it they may end up turning out to be pretty good...

BTW I've never heard of Liam Cohen before his one good year calling plays with Baker Mayfield and now all the sudden, he's a head coach?? I mean that doesn't make a lot of sense to me he had one year I don't see how he's going to be better than schottenheimer in my opinion 'cause at least schottenheimer had three years doing that successfully with the seattle seahawks..

There's probably a really far outside chances would happen and you're probably right he's probably too big a name to get to come here not be a bigger part of our offense but Bobby slowic and maybe if they come bring him in maybe schottenheimer gives up a little something from the offense to get him here.. But I'm sure he's looking for something bigger.. Probably stay in his division if he can so he can put it back on the Houston team.. Revenge is a good motivator sometimes..
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Pardon the takeaway if I'm missing something in translation... but the point of that comment is simply that, if one wants to see a proven OC get the job... if... then, the fact that this is going to be one of those non-play-calling OC jobs is not going to help your want come to any fruition. That's a turn off. That's all that comment was asserting, and it's just rooted in simple, easy logic.
 
_sturt_ said:
Pardon the takeaway if I'm missing something in translation... but the point of that comment is simply that, if one wants to see a proven OC get the job... if... then, the fact that this is going to be one of those non-play-calling OC jobs is not going to help your want come to any fruition. That's a turn off. That's all that comment was asserting, and it's just rooted in simple, easy logic.
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No I understand what you meant but I'm telling you that with 32 teams and five of them completely needing to fill holes there aren't that many of those proven can't miss coordinators left they're all becoming head coaches they're all being elevated now you have to fill the holes everybody's doing it they're not filling them with these names you're talking about because if they did guess what they would be called a retread lol

but I just gave you the example you're not being lost in translation but the lines are not filling their spots with these names that you speak of these big names the hot name the obvious guy they filled them with people I never heard of that sounds like the lions are about to have a bad year or sometimes, these no names are the people who you feel the spots are NEXT UP.. they might surprise you...
 
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