Ball's fault

[WV Cowboy]

Can't really fault Jenkins on the Jackson 91 yd play, .. he was at least trying to bat it down, .. probably missed by inches.

But after that, Sens was chasing and if Ball uses the sidelines as a teammate, and forces Jackson to stay on the sidelines, he could possibly shove him out or Sens could catch him if he slows up approaching Ball.

But Ball lets him turn it back to the middle of the field, and it was all over.

I do realize Jackson is tough to get down in the open field, but I would like to see us use the correct technique when we can.

That should not have gone 91 for the score.

 

[Doomsday101]

Can't really fault Jenkins on the Jackson 91 yd play, .. he was at least trying to bat it down, .. probably missed by inches.

But after that, Sens was chasing and if Ball uses the sidelines as a teammate, and forces Jackson to stay on the sidelines, he could possibly shove him out or Sens could catch him if he slows up approaching Ball.

But Ball lets him turn it back to the middle of the field, and it was all over.

I do realize Jackson is tough to get down in the open field, but I would like to see us use the correct technique when we can.

That should not have gone 91 for the score.

That depends on the coverage that was called.

 

[WV Cowboy]

That depends on the coverage that was called.

No matter what coverage they were in, Ball was there but took the wrong angle and gave him the inside.

He should have tried to use the sideline as a teammate.

 

[JohnsKey19]

It's a tough play, but Ball takes a horrible angle and let's Jackson out the front door.

 

[Doomsday101]

No matter what coverage they were in, Ball was there but took the wrong angle and gave him the inside.

He should have tried to use the sideline as a teammate.

It does matter what coverage since that will dictate what the safety responsbility in on that play. As Deion said Jenkins can't do that unless he knows he has support over the top on that play you can't tell me that Ball was suppose to be providing that support unless you know what coverage they are in.

 

[21Savage]

Ball was playing single deep on that play. He was approaching Jackson thinking he was gonna take the sideline straight up but Jackson cut it back on him and he slipped.

Without slipping, he sure could've done a better job but that's a hard angle from which to ask anyone to make a play on that dynamic of a player. You're not even getting Dez or Miles on that play, yet alone Jackson.

 

[Doomsday101]

It's a tough play, but Ball takes a horrible angle and let's Jackson out the front door.

I don't disagree but Jenkins damn well better know he can bat that ball down or make the tackle, being in no mans land without support over the top vs a WR with the ability of Jackson is a big gamble

 

[WV Cowboy]

It does matter what coverage since that will dictate what the safety responsbility in on that play. As Deion said Jenkins can't do that unless he knows he has support over the top on that play you can't tell me that Ball was suppose to be providing that support unless you know what coverage they are in.

I don't know what coverage they were in when the play started, but Ball was in position and let him get to the inside.

No matter the coverage, he misplayed the runner.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't know what coverage they were in when the play started, but Ball was in position and let him get to the inside.

No matter the coverage, he misplayed the runner.

and Jenkins should not have gambled as he did unless he knew he has help over the top. Guys like Jackson in the open field is a clear cut advantage for the offense.

 

[WV Cowboy]

and Jenkins should not have gambled as he did unless he knew he has help over the top. Guys like Jackson in the open field is a clear cut advantage for the offense.

Right on both, .. wasn't talking about Jenkins play, only what Ball did.

 

[jimmy40]

Can't really fault Jenkins on the Jackson 91 yd play, .. he was at least trying to bat it down, .. probably missed by inches.

But after that, Sens was chasing and if Ball uses the sidelines as a teammate, and forces Jackson to stay on the sidelines, he could possibly shove him out or Sens could catch him if he slows up approaching Ball.

But Ball lets him turn it back to the middle of the field, and it was all over.

I do realize Jackson is tough to get down in the open field, but I would like to see us use the correct technique when we can.

That should not have gone 91 for the score.

what's wrong with saying the other guy made a good play?

 

[WV Cowboy]

what's wrong with saying the other guy made a good play?

Nothing.

I do realize Jackson is tough to get down in the open field, but I would like to see us use the correct technique when we can.

 

[Idgit]

It does matter what coverage since that will dictate what the safety responsbility in on that play. As Deion said Jenkins can't do that unless he knows he has support over the top on that play you can't tell me that Ball was suppose to be providing that support unless you know what coverage they are in.

Regardless of the coverage, though, Ball was in position to make a play, and he did get juked out of his socks and almost blew a knee out on his attempted open field tackle. It wasn't a good play on this part.

Had he even slowed Jackson a hitch, Scandrick or the now-we're-pretending-he's-footslow Newman would likely have run Jackson down from the other side of the field and saved the TD. Oh, well. We know we need to add a safety this offseason.

 

[TNCowboy]

Right on both, .. wasn't talking about Jenkins play, only what Ball did.

You said you couldn't fault Jenkins. He just can't take a gamble like that and miss, especially against probably the best big-play WR in the league.

 

[theogt]

He's responsible for a TD or two a game. It's really quite remarkable how terrible he is. Even though I thought he'd be terrible going into the season, I have to admit I'm kinda shocked at just how bad he is.

 

[Doomsday101]

Right on both, .. wasn't talking about Jenkins play, only what Ball did.

You said you can't blame Jenkins yes I can there was no need to take that gamble at that stage of the game. He did and he screwed up. Having the safety come from mid field to the sideline with a WR of the caliber of Jackson in the open field is a big advantage to Jackson just as it would be for a guy like Miles in that situation. Our guys do not seem to grasp situational football of knowing when to take the risk and when to make the sure tackle. We had Philly backed up at their own 9 yard line and Jenkins allowed a short pass to turn into a 91 yard TD

 

[Idgit]

He's responsible for a TD or two a game. It's really quite remarkable how terrible he is. Even though I thought he'd be terrible going into the season, I have to admit I'm kinda shocked at just how bad he is.

I was a big fan of elevating him in the offseason. I thought he'd figure it out and be playing well by the end of the year. I was wrong. I still like him as a nickle back to make the roster next year, but we need a starter at safety in the off season.

 

[Idgit]

what's wrong with saying the other guy made a good play?

Jackson made a great play. If we'd been able to answer with a play of our own, his great play would have been limited to a 20-25 yard game, and there would have been no 'plunge.'

Vick made a great throw on that play, too. Most QBs in the league, that would have been a Dallas pick. He's got a huge arm.

 

[IheartRomo]

Whether it was Ball's fault or not on this play, it is truly terrifying to see how bad Alan Ball really is. He is one of the very worst starters in the NFL at any respective position.

It's borderline comical.

 

[aikemirv]

Whether Ball should have made the tackle or not, Jenkins should have played it much more conservatively and limited it to a 3-4 yrd gain IMO.