Baseball is Over

[bbgun]

Sox victory + ARod opting out = kick in the head for us Yankee fans.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I hate baseball these days, but I do love the Red Sox and the Rangers...

Kudos to the Sox for ending this inferior sport. I'm glad they won but nobody really cares...

... baseball end once again with an irrelevant whisper. A game I love to play with some buddies, but I cannot enjoy watching the pros play anymore.

I read somewhere that the weighting of NFL games puts one NFL win equivalent to 14 baseball games in the "w" column.

Things are not healthy in that league and without some form of salary cap it will continue to dwindle.

It's only starting in the last decade, but I think athletes will begin to realize that although your career is short in the NFL your marketability is much higher than a baseball player's. Sign of an unhealthy league.

 

[Doomsday]

They are playing on the same field during a game, but over the course of a season, if you are in Boston or NY's division where you have great pitching parks, you have an advantage over teams that have more hitter friendly parks over the course of the season.

Every game should be played on the same size playing field.

As far as your second point, I would rather see the AL get rid of the DH.

That is part of the strategy of the sport, you have to build a team to be successful at home but still able to compete in different parks on the road. Also there is nothing cooler then watching a game at Fenway, which wouldnt exist if all stadiums where cookie cutter.

As for pitchers hitting, to me its lame to have basically an almost guaranteed out in the lineup. It takes away from the drama when teams can just walk the 8 hitter with 2 outs and guys on 2nd and 3rd to get to the pitcher to end the inning. The AL is much more exciting in my opinion.

 

[Garland powerplay]

the Red Sox are as dominant as the Patriots.

 

[Cochese]

Weird, I heard the entire staff of ESPN at Bristol Connecticut have a weird stain over their groin region for some unexplained reason...

 

[Cochese]

the Red Sox are as dominant as the Patriots.

Not. even. close.

 

[Mavs Man]

I will only become a baseball fan when field sizes become regulated.

:signmast:

Completely agree. It makes for unique stadiums, but what would basketball be like if some teams had short courts and others long courts, or in football if the Commanders played with 20 yard end zones and the Bears had 60 yard wide fields? How can you compare stats with differences like that?

 

[morieeel]

As far as your second point, I would rather see the AL get rid of the DH.

I find AL games boring. No strategy.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Get rid of the DH.....make pitchers hit and they stop head hunting

 

[big dog cowboy]

I've noticed that since I watch much more NFLN and less Sportscenter, I barely even notice that baseball exists. That is a good thing!

 

[GTaylor]

Things are not healthy in that league and without some form of salary cap it will continue to dwindle.

It's only starting in the last decade, but I think athletes will begin to realize that although your career is short in the NFL your marketability is much higher than a baseball player's. Sign of an unhealthy league.

Why do you say it's not healthy? They've doubled revenues since 2000 and had attendance records this year (IMO it was because of labor peace). And the NFL this week with the Giants/Dolphins came is trying to do something baseball has been doing for decades - make the game international. That's not saying football is underachieving, if baseball was realizing the same potential football is currently doing they would be in far better shape, but they're certainly not struggling. As far as marketability, baseball players have it but I agree in that they could be doing a much better job. SI once did a story about 10 years ago about why players aren't as marketable anymore, one possible reason could be the salaries as Tori Hunter is an above-average centerfielder but will land a guaranteed $15 million a year for about 4-5 years, if Romo, one of the top QBs in a high market-team were to get 5 years $100 million guaranteed would he need to market himself?

 

[royhitshard]

Thank God it is over. I hate baseball.

 

[jgboys1]

Baseball isn't over ... the hot stove league is just beginning.

Do not even joke about that. The only thing more boring than watching baseball, is talking about baseball......:zzz:

 

[peplaw06]

Completely agree. It makes for unique stadiums, but what would basketball be like if some teams had short courts and others long courts, or in football if the Commanders played with 20 yard end zones and the Bears had 60 yard wide fields? How can you compare stats with differences like that?

In basketball some teams tighten the rims, lighting is different from stadium to stadium, etc.

In football, slower teams who play on natural grass let the grass grow longer. Faster teams install artificial turf. Some games are in domes, some are outside. Some are open air with retractable roofs. Some roofs have holes in them. Texas Stadium also has a huge crown.

There are always going to be inconsistencies from stadium to stadium and park to park. You can't make everything completely equal.

 

[Mavs Man]

In basketball some teams tighten the rims, lighting is different from stadium to stadium, etc.

In football, slower teams who play on natural grass let the grass grow longer. Faster teams install artificial turf. Some games are in domes, some are outside. Some are open air with retractable roofs. Some roofs have holes in them. Texas Stadium also has a huge crown.

There are always going to be inconsistencies from stadium to stadium and park to park. You can't make everything completely equal.

The differences in baseball are not cosmetic ones based on lighting or field materials (turd, grass, artificial grass, etc.) or open stadium vs dome. Only baseball has variety in field dimensions. The infield diamond is 90" for all MLB teams, but how about these differences in the outfield on just a few parks:

Boston's Fenway:
310 in Left - 420 in Center - 302 in Right

Detroit's Comerica Park:
345 in Left - 420 in Center - 330 in Right

Chicago's Wrigley Field:
355 in Left - 400 in Center - 353 in Right

Houston's Minute Maid Park:
315 in Left - 435 in Center - 326 in Right

 

[peplaw06]

The differences in baseball are not cosmetic ones based on lighting or field materials (turd, grass, artificial grass, etc.) or open stadium vs dome. Only baseball has variety in field dimensions. The infield diamond is 90" for all MLB teams, but how about these differences in the outfield on just a few parks:

Boston's Fenway:
310 in Left - 420 in Center - 302 in Right

Detroit's Comerica Park:
345 in Left - 420 in Center - 330 in Right

Chicago's Wrigley Field:
355 in Left - 400 in Center - 353 in Right

Houston's Minute Maid Park:
315 in Left - 435 in Center - 326 in Right

Baseball is a unique sport, in that the weather and/or altitude have huge effects on the way the ball flies.

Footballs typically fly the same way in every stadium -- unless there's just a gale force wind -- because the ball isn't in the air as long.

Coors field is 347-390-415-375-350.

Safeco field is 331-388-405-385-326.

Which park is more of a hitter's park?

The status of hitters parks vs. pitchers parks is less dependent on field dimensions and more dependent on the general setting of the park.

Oftentimes there are things done to offset that difference in dimensions as well. Just looking at the dimensions, you'd think that you could throw the ball over the left field fence at Fenway, and everyone knows that's not the case.

 

[Mavs Man]

Baseball is a unique sport, in that the weather and/or altitude have huge effects on the way the ball flies.

Footballs typically fly the same way in every stadium -- unless there's just a gale force wind -- because the ball isn't in the air as long.

Coors field is 347-390-415-375-350.

Safeco field is 331-388-405-385-326.

Which park is more of a hitter's park?

The status of hitters parks vs. pitchers parks is less dependent on field dimensions and more dependent on the general setting of the park.

Oftentimes there are things done to offset that difference in dimensions as well. Just looking at the dimensions, you'd think that you could throw the ball over the left field fence at Fenway, and everyone knows that's not the case.

I still think it's weird that you can play a game where there are essentially different sized parks with different dimensions (not getting started on the differences in DH between leagues), but you do bring up some good points. Basketball/hockey/arena football are immune to the weather rule since they are all played indoors. American football, soccer, and baseball are not, but it is an interesting comparison with air time and how the altitude/local weather can effect the path of the ball over a season's worth of games.

In other words (since this is a message board), your arguments are stupid and you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[peplaw06]

I still think it's weird that you can play a game where there are essentially different sized parks with different dimensions (not getting started on the differences in DH between leagues), but you do bring up some good points. Basketball/hockey/arena football are immune to the weather rule since they are all played indoors. American football, soccer, and baseball are not, but it is an interesting comparison with air time and how the altitude/local weather can effect the path of the ball over a season's worth of games.

In other words (since this is a message board), your arguments are stupid and you don't know what you are talking about.

:laugh2: Touche.

Another point about the atmosphere. The Rangers park is known as a hitters park, not because of the dimensions (which are pretty close to Safeco's dimensions), but because in the warm weather and that Arlington jetstream, the ball takes off.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Thank God it is over. I hate baseball.

Ditto.

 

[Yeagermeister]

:laugh2: Touche.

Another point about the atmosphere. The Rangers park is known as a hitters park, not because of the dimensions (which are pretty close to Safeco's dimensions), but because in the warm weather and that Arlington jetstream, the ball takes off.

And the Rangers don't have jack for pitchers