Bashing Jerry

[dfense]

I find it hilarious how many posts you can scan and whatever the negative subject is there's someone blaming Jerry for it.

I'm not a big Jerry fan, but I can see what he brings to the team.

Cowboy fans have always cracked me up. Having an owner who cares as much as Jerry is somehow a negative. The guy never quits trying every angle to better his team. How many owners really do that?

It seems at times things Jerry does don't work out, in hindsight everyone thought they were great at one time. But alot of things do work out and he never gets any positive credit. Only negative.

I live up by Buffalo and the owner gets 100% of everything. Parking, concessions, everything goes right in his pocket. He had the blackout rule extended from 60 miles to 90 because smaller city's like Rochester is just over 60 miles.

He gets a stadium basically for free and does nothing but pocket money. The Bills fans I know see no hope or future in the franchise because when Ralph Wilson (in his 90's) dies his kids will sell off the team and it will probably move away.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Warning: DUCK!

 

[Doomsday101]

Jerry is a very bad man

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[BrAinPaiNt]

Jerry is a very bad man

[youtube]VN29X2HCKpU&feature[/youtube]

:laugh2: Nice

 

[DavidS]

I find it hilarious how many posts you can scan and whatever the negative subject is there's someone blaming Jerry for it.

I'm not a big Jerry fan, but I can see what he brings to the team.

Cowboy fans have always cracked me up. Having an owner who cares as much as Jerry is somehow a negative. The guy never quits trying every angle to better his team. How many owners really do that?

It seems at times things Jerry does don't work out, in hindsight everyone thought they were great at one time. But alot of things do work out and he never gets any positive credit. Only negative.

I live up by Buffalo and the owner gets 100% of everything. Parking, concessions, everything goes right in his pocket. He had the blackout rule extended from 60 miles to 90 because smaller city's like Rochester is just over 60 miles.

He gets a stadium basically for free and does nothing but pocket money. The Bills fans I know see no hope or future in the franchise because when Ralph Wilson (in his 90's) dies his kids will sell off the team and it will probably move away.

Be careful what you wish for.

Preach it brother!

 

[ChopBlock]

I find it hilarious how many posts you can scan and whatever the negative subject is there's someone blaming Jerry for it.

I'm not a big Jerry fan, but I can see what he brings to the team.

Cowboy fans have always cracked me up. Having an owner who cares as much as Jerry is somehow a negative. The guy never quits trying every angle to better his team. How many owners really do that?

It seems at times things Jerry does don't work out, in hindsight everyone thought they were great at one time. But alot of things do work out and he never gets any positive credit. Only negative.

I live up by Buffalo and the owner gets 100% of everything. Parking, concessions, everything goes right in his pocket. He had the blackout rule extended from 60 miles to 90 because smaller city's like Rochester is just over 60 miles.

He gets a stadium basically for free and does nothing but pocket money. The Bills fans I know see no hope or future in the franchise because when Ralph Wilson (in his 90's) dies his kids will sell off the team and it will probably move away.

Be careful what you wish for.

I wish for an owner who would hire a competent GM instead of trying to do it himself in order to feed his ego.

And what might happen without Jerry? We could go 15 years with just one playoff win? Yeah well, welcome to life with Jerry.

 

[iceberg]

I wish for an owner who would hire a competent GM instead of trying to do it himself in order to feed his ego.

And what might happen without Jerry? We could go 15 years with just one playoff win? Yeah well, welcome to life with Jerry.

and i wish for a fanbase that would realize jones isn't going anywhere and comes to realize no amount of whining in here will make jones leave.

amazing how you leave out the years before that. yea yea, all johnson...

 

[Stash]

and i wish for a fanbase that would realize jones isn't going anywhere and comes to realize no amount of whining in here will make jones leave.

I was a fan before Jerry Jones and I'll be a fan after he's gone. He's not going to chase me away from supporting my favorite team, no matter how inept he is.

amazing how you leave out the years before that. yea yea, all johnson...[/quote]

Yeah, right up until the point where Jerry thought he knew what he was doing and didn't need Johnson anymore as '500 guys could coach Jerry's team'.

 

[Idgit]

and i wish for a fanbase that would realize jones isn't going anywhere and comes to realize no amount of whining in here will make jones leave....

It's like complaining about the weather. What's the point?

 

[iceberg]

I was a fan before Jerry Jones and I'll be a fan after he's gone. He's not going to chase me away from supporting my favorite team, no matter how inept he is.

amazing how you leave out the years before that. yea yea, all johnson...

Yeah, right up until the point where Jerry thought he knew what he was doing and didn't need Johnson anymore as '500 guys could coach Jerry's team'.

yea, jones was a moron for making that statement. what good does it do to rehash it on a weekly + basis?

then, the year before johnson took over miami, as an announcer he said miami *should* win the superbowl.

they didn't. shula out johnson in and johnson didn't do it either.

jones has won w/o johnson with what was left of the team they *both* built. (i mean, no one does anything w/o jones ok, unless you're jimmy and suddenly lift that hard and fast rule) but in the end they were great together ***** apart.

now - do you see the difference in trying to review the whole picture vs. just "jones sucks"?

the jones sucks crowd wants both absolutes (the buck stops with jones) with their own exceptions (johnson / parcells). this way you can have your hate and ensure you only see the bad in jones. if there's any good, you must deflect it and i don't get it.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I was a fan before Jerry Jones and I'll be a fan after he's gone. He's not going to chase me away from supporting my favorite team, no matter how inept he is.

amazing how you leave out the years before that. yea yea, all johnson...

Yeah, right up until the point where Jerry thought he knew what he was doing and didn't need Johnson anymore as '500 guys could coach Jerry's team'.[/quote]

You realize that Jimmy wanted to leave, dont you? Read up on the subject and you will find out that the reason Jimmy wanted to leave was because there was no way he could muster enough effort to win a 3rd SB.

Even Aikman has mentioned this, that after the Boyz won their first that Jimmy had to be extra hard and extra demanding to push the players to their limits to get that second trophy. Jimmy knew at that moment that he could not be even stricter and harsher to try and get a 3rd, so he decided it was best to leave and start fresh again.


Its amazing how we have so many "revisionist histoy" guys on this board. Yea, Jerry fired Jimmy because Jerry wanted to run the show all by himself and poor Jimmy was a victum in all of this.


Whatever...............

 

[dfense]

I wish for an owner who would hire a competent GM instead of trying to do it himself in order to feed his ego.

And what might happen without Jerry? We could go 15 years with just one playoff win? Yeah well, welcome to life with Jerry.

Well, does that realy fly?

Green Bay had what many consider the best GM in Ron Wolf. They also had multi MVP QB Favre. = 1 SB win. And it took that "model" franchise 13 yrs to get back.

Philadelphia has an empty trophy case and a stable GM and coach for 10 yrs. = 0 SB wins.

The Colts finally won a SB with arguably the best QB ever to play and what I consider the best GM in the business. What did it take them? 11 or 12 years? And from what I saw of their aging team in the playoffs, they aren't going back anytime soon. = 1 SB win.

What about the Pats? Best coach to many, they've lost their last 3 playoff games.

My point is, there's alot of luck involved to. Injuries play a role. There's a reason there's been like 10 different winners in the last 10 years.

If Chicago didn't play a vanilla game against Green Bay in week 16, brought an actual game plan and scored a TD. Green Bay would be at home watching the SB.

 

[adbutcher]

Jerry is a very bad man

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:laugh2:

 

[Stash]

yea, jones was a moron for making that statement. what good does it do to rehash it on a weekly + basis?

then, the year before johnson took over miami, as an announcer he said miami *should* win the superbowl.

they didn't. shula out johnson in and johnson didn't do it either.

jones has won w/o johnson with what was left of the team they *both* built. (i mean, no one does anything w/o jones ok, unless you're jimmy and suddenly lift that hard and fast rule) but in the end they were great together ***** apart.

now - do you see the difference in trying to review the whole picture vs. just "jones sucks"?

the jones sucks crowd wants both absolutes (the buck stops with jones) with their own exceptions (johnson / parcells). this way you can have your hate and ensure you only see the bad in jones. if there's any good, you must deflect it and i don't get it.

I know what you're saying, absolutes are no good either way and they truly don't exist.

As for me, I can very much down on Jerry Jones right now so bashing is a bit of therapy to help me recover from 2010.

That said, I can criticize the guy while still giving him credit for what he does do well.

To some extent anyway...

 

[Stash]

Yeah, right up until the point where Jerry thought he knew what he was doing and didn't need Johnson anymore as '500 guys could coach Jerry's team'.

You realize that Jimmy wanted to leave, dont you? Read up on the subject and you will find out that the reason Jimmy wanted to leave was because there was no way he could muster enough effort to win a 3rd SB.

Even Aikman has mentioned this, that after the Boyz won their first that Jimmy had to be extra hard and extra demanding to push the players to their limits to get that second trophy. Jimmy knew at that moment that he could not be even stricter and harsher to try and get a 3rd, so he decided it was best to leave and start fresh again.


Its amazing how we have so many "revisionist histoy" guys on this board. Yea, Jerry fired Jimmy because Jerry wanted to run the show all by himself and poor Jimmy was a victum in all of this.


Whatever...............[/quote]

When did I ever say that?

How about you respond to what I actually said and not what you inferred or interpreted, OK?

 

[iceberg]

I know what you're saying, absolutes are no good either way and they truly don't exist.

As for me, I can very much down on Jerry Jones right now so bashing is a bit of therapy to help me recover from 2010.

That said, I can criticize the guy while still giving him credit for what he does do well.

To some extent anyway...

yea, the therapy of venting is the only "good" i found from it. its just funny to me that any and all bad things are always jones because "the buck stops with him" but if something good happens, someone else gets the credit and "the buck stops with him" is lifted long enough to shift credit.

anyway - it's a sore topic for me these days hence my rant after the game and it's not that big a deal to go that nuts, but sometimes i gotta vent too.

 

[Doomsday101]

I was a fan before Jerry Jones and I'll be a fan after he's gone. He's not going to chase me away from supporting my favorite team, no matter how inept he is.

amazing how you leave out the years before that. yea yea, all johnson...

Yeah, right up until the point where Jerry thought he knew what he was doing and didn't need Johnson anymore as '500 guys could coach Jerry's team'.[/QUOTE]

There was allot of things being said by both guys. It funny though they still have a good relationship as Jimmy said in the pre game "We have known each other for 50 years we have had ups and downs but I always wanted to work with Jerry"

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Like Ice said complaining won't get rid of Jerry. Jerry doesn't see himself as an issue. I do have to say though, not a ton of CEOs would last at their jobs that long out side of Jerry world. He is the peak and the base of the mountain.

 

[Stash]

Yeah, right up until the point where Jerry thought he knew what he was doing and didn't need Johnson anymore as '500 guys could coach Jerry's team'.

There was allot of things being said by both guys. It funny though they still have a good relationship as Jimmy said in the pre game "We have known each other for 50 years we have had ups and downs but I always wanted to work with Jerry"[/quote]

Yeah, it took two to tango in that debacle.

I think the success went to both men's heads and was a big part of the 'breakup'.

Neither has proven to be as successful as they were together.

Shame for us fans.

 

[Seven]

I find it hilarious how many posts you can scan and whatever the negative subject is there's someone blaming Jerry for it.

I'm not a big Jerry fan, but I can see what he brings to the team.

Cowboy fans have always cracked me up. Having an owner who cares as much as Jerry is somehow a negative. The guy never quits trying every angle to better his team. How many owners really do that?

It seems at times things Jerry does don't work out, in hindsight everyone thought they were great at one time. But alot of things do work out and he never gets any positive credit. Only negative.

I live up by Buffalo and the owner gets 100% of everything. Parking, concessions, everything goes right in his pocket. He had the blackout rule extended from 60 miles to 90 because smaller city's like Rochester is just over 60 miles.

He gets a stadium basically for free and does nothing but pocket money. The Bills fans I know see no hope or future in the franchise because when Ralph Wilson (in his 90's) dies his kids will sell off the team and it will probably move away.

Be careful what you wish for.

Y.A.W.N.