Yes he did with a defending SB champion team. And Cassel went on to be a starter after that. It has to be noted that was only non playoff season in Brady era.He pretty much won without Brady yesterday and shut that debate down.
Brady could retire right now, and I'd bet he could win another title within 5 years.
He won 11 games with Matt Cassel for crying out loud.
RightYou can cry out loud all you want FACT what has he won without Brady???? Not a damn thing and that is FACT not spin. Name me one fricken thing he has won without Brady? You can't because he has not won.
They won 11 games with a championship caliber team that didn’t make the playoffs but Cassel wasn’t leading them on any championship drives.I would have to agree with that
Even when Brady got hurt that one year they won
Belicheck with our roster...oh man
RightBelichick has an off the chart football IQ. He likes certain players that fit is style of football (smart, big, selfless, mentally and physically tough, team player, winner) and can whip up a different scheme for every opponent on the schedule that his players can bring to the game.
The team always has a unified message and you rarely hear any trash talk from a Patriots player. Doesn't hang on to many draft picks who become stars. Very cap savvy and understands the value of balance throughout the roster. A truly amazing figure who has accomplished something that I don't expect to see duplicated in my lifetime.
How different would Brady's path have been with another club?
YepBelichick is a witch, for sure. He’s got a generational QB there as well. He does it with good, but not great, personnnel, otherwise. It’s crazy how much better they are than everyone else.
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Did anyone ever doubt Brady would lead them on a championship drive to win the game ?
YepMy son was pulling for the Pats and was laughing as time ran out saying it was Brady time I looked at him and said I know. lol Brady is money in these situations
Brady is great, but look what Belichick did to Rivers, Mahomes, and Goff with a no-name defense.Yes he did with a defending SB champion team. And Cassel went on to be a starter after that. It has to be noted that was only non playoff season in Brady era.
For some reason you’re not wanting to credit Brady? After a weak performance yesterday he rose up and made championship winning drive.
He’s money and Bill might not have any championships without him. It might resemble more of that non playoff season with Cassel or in Cleveland with Kosar.
Like I said Bill is a defensive guru and Brady leads them on game winning drives.Brady is great, but look what Belichick did to Rivers, Mahomes, and Goff with a no-name defense.
Didn't Brady throw 5 picks in the playoffs? He's not himself anymore.Like I said Bill is a defensive guru and Brady leads them on game winning drives.
Take either out and the results are much different.
I’d agree he appears to have slipped but with the game on the line he still came thru. Not sure why we want to discount that aspect?Didn't Brady throw 5 picks in the playoffs? He's not himself anymore.
Can't disagree with you. It has been a QB driven league for quite some time. But it's not Brady who makes the team win with a roster full of no-names. Belichick doesn't win 6 rings without Brady, but Brady may not even be playing without Belichick.Right
He builds his defensive strong up the middle. He’s a guru on defense. But I have no doubt that without Brady , Bill doesn’t win 6 rings.
Brady is great, but look what Belichick did to Rivers, Mahomes, and Goff with a no-name defense.
Nit picking. That was what 20 years ago. Belicheat is smart. He learned from his mistakes early in his HC career. Has Garrett done that? Hel_ no!Except the Browns...
You sound pretty petty. I can’t stand Belicheat, but his average defense dominated the #2 offense in the league because of Belicheat.You can cry out loud all you want FACT what has he won without Brady???? Not a damn thing and that is FACT not spin. Name me one fricken thing he has won without Brady? You can't because he has not won.