Believe we are going to see Moore/Nussmeier and Zimmer or Harris

[darthseinfeld]

Was that MM's decision?

Even it was, they signed off. I don't see them doing that if they valued him enough to make him a HC. Keep in mind this is the organization that has no problems telling a coach who their coordinators are

 

[_sturt_]

Kellen Moore/Doug Nussmeier make a ton of sense.

Until we learned they're getting the RR checked off already, I was right there with your logic.

That logic has now been blown up.

Not likely they're moving this quickly, only to have to potentially wait 3 weeks to make a hire, since they can't engage KM until PHI is out.

The tea leaves point to white guys who could be hired in the next few days... so hate to say it, me, but that's Gruden who is just a big personality but hasn't actually achieved anything important for a long time... that's Pete Carroll whose hire, objectively, would seem more likely to just be a bridge to the next guy based on his age... or Jason Witten whose hire, objectively, would seem to require you hire a Pete Carroll to mentor... a very Wade Phillips/Jason Garrett like scenario, then.

 

[DuncanIso]

The Cowboys appear not to want to start over from scratch, but rather move ahead with this current group of players, more of a retool then a rebuild. I believe they don't want to bring in a completely new system, which is why both Kellen Moore/Doug Nussmeier make a ton of sense. Dak not only has a good relationship with both, but he knows their offensive system/language. This isn't the direction I would go, but appears pointed in that direction.

As for defense, I think it's Zimmer's job if he wants to continue coaching, if he does retire, I fully expect Al Harris to get promoted. He has put in his time and has earned the promotion. Being around Quinn/Zimmer will help him put together a similar scheme with concepts from both.

good take.

KMoore doesnt even need a formal interview. They already know him.

 

[DuncanIso]

Even it was, they signed off. I don't see them doing that if they valued him enough to make him a HC. Keep in mind this is the organization that has no problems telling a coach who their coordinators are

#MikeNolan

 

[NDGAEDE]

Kellen Moore is worst case scenario IMO…definition of status quo and not disrupting what hasn’t worked for 20 years.

I’d love to keep Zim but we’ll see…Broaddus said on his most recent podcast that Harrris isn’t thought of as highly
in the building as he is externally.

Agreed. Moore is status quo. The team (and fans, really) need something new.

Don't flush the opportunity to build for the future with a two year stop gap.

 

[Miller]

Feel like these guys are getting lazy! Kellen interviews badly, isn’t a vocal guy and was pushed out of here. It’s an easy guess but I think he’s way down the line in this process

 

[Shannon1]

Kellen Moore is worst case scenario IMO…definition of status quo and not disrupting what hasn’t worked for 20 years.

I’d love to keep Zim but we’ll see…Broaddus said on his most recent podcast that Harrris isn’t thought of as highly
in the building as he is externally.

This would be the worse hire period !

 

[Aven8]

Al will go to Chicago with Mike.

And I would rather have Kingsbury rather than KM. If I was picking between the two at least. Moore won’t have any command

 

[cowboyec]

Al will go to Chicago with Mike.

And I would rather have Kingsbury rather than KM. If I was picking between the two at least. Moore won’t have any command

agree.
my preference is aaron glenn.
but if they're leaning offense...kingsbury all day over kellen moore.
i'd take vikings qb coach josh mccown over moore.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I have never understood all the praise for Harris

you understood it more when guys weren't injured, guys weren't available, so his fame went down

 

[WillieBeamen]

Would be a disaster


Kellen would have no stranglehold over the lockeroom

 

[JBS]

K. Moore is the most likely option and it’s probably the worst hire this franchise could make. What an embarrassment this organization is

 

[Cowboyny]

good take.

KMoore doesnt even need a formal interview. They already know him.

Not my choice, but I know their thinking. Hoping for an outside coach though.

 

[Cowboyny]

Until we learned they're getting the RR checked off already, I was right there with your logic.

That logic has now been blown up.

Not likely they're moving this quickly, only to have to potentially wait 3 weeks to make a hire, since they can't engage KM until PHI is out.

The tea leaves point to white guys who could be hired in the next few days... so hate to say it, me, but that's Gruden who is just a big personality but hasn't actually achieved anything important for a long time... that's Pete Carroll whose hire, objectively, would seem more likely to just be a bridge to the next guy based on his age... or Jason Witten whose hire, objectively, would seem to require you hire a Pete Carroll to mentor... a very Wade Phillips/Jason Garrett like scenario, then.

A Carroll bridge is very possible too.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Kellen Moore is worst case scenario IMO…definition of status quo and not disrupting what hasn’t worked for 20 years.

I’d love to keep Zim but we’ll see…Broaddus said on his most recent podcast that Harrris isn’t thought of as highly
in the building as he is externally.

I believe nothing these dudes say.

 

[blueblood70]

The Cowboys appear not to want to start over from scratch, but rather move ahead with this current group of players, more of a retool then a rebuild. I believe they don't want to bring in a completely new system, which is why both Kellen Moore/Doug Nussmeier make a ton of sense. Dak not only has a good relationship with both, but he knows their offensive system/language. This isn't the direction I would go, but appears pointed in that direction.

As for defense, I think it's Zimmer's job if he wants to continue coaching, if he does retire, I fully expect Al Harris to get promoted. He has put in his time and has earned the promotion. Being around Quinn/Zimmer will help him put together a similar scheme with concepts from both.

Now I choose not to believe you this is all a process and whoever we get we get all the rhetoric and opinions on who might be here and who we might end up with is just ridiculous right now it's so all over the place they're just now setting up interviews but there's a list on Twitter with josina Anderson said that they've made more calls than you think that she's had talks with Jerry and the people that he's trying to align schedules with other coaching candidates to get it together then there are booked official interviews that are being leaked out to us there's a whole lot more been going on behind the scenes she says he's not as far behind as people think in this hiring process he's got his candidates he's been speaking to people and I hate to break it to the fan base you think they're entitled to to every piece of information in real time like they need to be part of this process and they know what's going on you're not entitled to anything we'll know when we know...

You want my opinion there also have dark horse list I think it could be Pete Carroll as the head coach with Robert Soleil is the defensive coordinator and they'll bring in one of their old coordinators for the offense and they'll build a new roster I mean would that be the worst staff ever?

I remember when you all sat here and said Mike McCarthy is a yes man and it won't work and that there were so many other options and some of you thought Ron Rivera was a better option and guess what in 2020 in fact Mike McCarthy was the best hire all the teams made their choices and Jerry made his and Mike McCarthy turns out to have the best success out of all of them and I mean there's a gap by far he was the best hire in 2020...

It always confuses me you guys with the whole yes man thing and the retreads you know the whole league does that right that Mike McCarthy was no longer wanted here by Jerry and now there's two to three other teams that are setting up interviews with him and Ron Rivera by the way the Chicago Bears actually interviewed Ron Rivera you wanna talk about being hypocrites this fan base thinks that Jerry hires yes man but when other teams hire the same retread the same older coaching carousel that is a bad thing and then it's a yes man when he's here but it's not a yes man when he's elsewhere?!!

It gets on my nerves people in here wanted Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh both of which did not have better records or success than Mike McCarthy it's very close but they're all retreads they're all older veteran coaches being passed around the league but you want Jerry to pay more for those guys to have parallel success than them getting a discount for Mike McCarthy is a bad thing I mean why shouldn't we get paid Mike McCarthy 15,000,000 to do the same thing he did for 5 million and still not get us where we needed to go it makes no sense you guys think that money is attached to good decisions and that makes them better choices and in fact it's not.

So in 2020 Jerry made the right decision and maybe a guy like Pete Carroll will be the parachute higher much like Mike McCarthy and it could end up being successful we don't know but hiring some young up and coming coordinator that can't bring all his players and roster with him you think those guys are gonna be more successful than Pete Carroll you know this for a fact?

So we all have our list we all have our opinions but none of them are actual facts they're going through the process and other than us having rumor mill discussions none of it is true until it is...

.

 

[blueblood70]

A Carroll bridge is very possible too.

They're all possible and I've already wrote this in another response to you there's nothing wrong with Pete Carroll everyone thought Mike McCarthy was washed up overrated and the Cowboys could have done better in 2020 and in fact Mike McCarthy was the best hire in 2020 we have all the results are in and by a long he was far more successful than any other hire in 2020 those guys were all gone within three years and none of them did a damn thing even close to what Mike McCarthy did so everyone gets worried about these hires and somehow Jerry Jones made the right decision in 2020.

Pete Carroll along with maybe a good defensive coordinator like Robert Soleil this this whole Robert slay interview may not just be for head coach it could also be to get a feel for what he'd be as a defensive coordinator and what would he be accepting of a defensive coordinator position and then you find the best offensive coordinator I don't see how this would be a big problem everybody who thinks he's these coordinators these hot shots high on everyone list they can't bring those rosters with them they can't bring their current head coach with them do you think they're going to bring all that success with them?.

Look in my opinion it's all a crapshoot it's high risk you hope it works out I don't care who you hire it could end up being a failure a success or somewhere in the middle Mike McCarthy was in the middle he was actually the best hire in 2020 and I hope whatever staff we get is equally as successful or better that's all we can hope for as a fan base we can sit here and have all these discussions all you want none of it has any truth to it until it does.....

 

[_sturt_]

I’d love to keep Zim but we’ll see…Broaddus said on his most recent podcast that Harrris isn’t thought of as highly
in the building as he is externally.

Me, I get the impression that Zimmer and Harris didn't hit it off that well, and that we should probably anticipate Harris moving on to Chicago or wherever McC lands regardless of whether Zimmer remains.

 

[noshame]

If they do not replace the OL coach we'll be drafting in the top 5 next year.

 

[_sturt_]

A Carroll bridge is very possible too.

Unless this is just affirmation of what I'd already suggested (Carroll hired to HC now to mentor Witten who is the anointed next HC)... not sure what it means. Clarification?