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Vtwin;3154881 said:
If I said "all (pick your religious affiliation) are cowards" don't you think most if not all members of that religion would be offended?

This is not directed at you but the irony of this is that hiding behind generalities is a bit... well... cowardly.

no. i'd realize it's a stupid emotional statement said to be extreme.

doesn't mean i gotta be all extreme in return.
 

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iceberg;3154870 said:
who's other mind should i be using?

Dodger12;3154922 said:
Get someone to donate one because yours just isn't enough.

not funny to anyone past a jethro education.

poke;3154927 said:
i have one that is only slightly used but it has been lost numerous times.

you are free to use it but i gotta warn you, you will crave chicken fried steak, double meat cheeseburgers and any other food that is bad for you.

funny on many levels.

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iceberg;3154962 said:
no. i'd realize it's a stupid emotional statement said to be extreme.

doesn't mean i gotta be all extreme in return.


That's an admirable quality.
 

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Vtwin;3154953 said:
I've never participated in a game day thread myself as I just like to watch the game.

That is a tough question to answer because it would certainly be understandable for fans to be frustrated if the Saints jump way up on us.
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Vtwin;3154953 said:
What I meant with my comment is that I'm sure that every single person here wants the Cowboys to win tonight and is rooting for them to do so.

Do you disagree with that?

Do you think there are members here who WANT the Cowboys to lose?
Good question.

While its undeniable that the site itself is 100% Dallas Cowboys based, its membership is comprised of individuals connected together via cyberspace. As such, there is no way to easily verify whether someone is or isn't truly a fan of the team which the site identifies with.

The only identifier, which any of us can draw upon, is the context of our posted comments. Beyond that, it's virtually impossible.

To answer your question, my opinion is that most posters, who claim that they are Cowboys fans, are indeed fans of the team. This site is as much a reflection of real society as any other. In reality, the fact remains that people sometimes make false claims. The probability of that happening is equal for everyone here, including myself, as it is everywhere else in this world.
 

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CATCH17;3154976 said:
So what are the official bets going on in this thread?

everyone will agree in the end: 1,000,000,000:1 against
the arguing will continue: not taking bets.
 

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I have 2 grasps on the Cowboys.

1. They are very talented

2. They will beat themselves

That pretty much sums us up.

If we don't make stupid mistakes tonight I love our chances to win but making things harder on ourselves is just what we do.
 

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DallasCowpoke;3155008 said:
Be a sweetie and pick-up a 6r of Zima on your way over, k?
This is really Chris Hanson from To Catch a Predator. You've been busted.
 

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bbgun;3154939 said:
The thread was a cheap stunt from the get-go, which is why I analogized it to empty calories. If he's wrong about tonight or the rest of the season, he loses nothing, because "Golly gee, what's wrong with showing faith in the team?" :rolleyes: Instead, this was a not so stealthy attack on his fellow fans, who fail to meet his lofty purity standards. Or should I say "fans," which he deliberately put in scare quotes twice. Subtle he ain't. So yeah, when you take transparent cheapshots at other posters under the guise of "supporting" the team (whatever that means), don't be surprised when others notice this and take issue.

So do you believe they can win at all or are you %100 sure they can't win this game? Golly gee, I'd say it takes more testicular fortitude to ask that we believe going into the game against and undefeated team rather than sit up on your high horse spouting nonsense similar to those whor roost amongst the DCC and CRAP realists.

There was no "transparent cheap shot" unless you took it as one because as a fan you can't believe we can possibly beat the Saints. Your posts have never gleamed with brightness. I'm not saying that's indicative of your personality. I'm saying your ideas aren't that original and if you think the Saints are going to win then you should wager on them. You could profit greatly from believing we'll lose, especially if you bet a lot. Then you can come back and tell us how much money you won for being right.

Subtle you aint. Debbie Downer can come back and say I told you so if we lose. I'm still a fan; I was just being realistic. And I won 5 grand, so it makes me feel better. But I would have still been happy had they won.

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Hypocrite.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3155035 said:
So do you believe they can win at all or are you %100 sure they can't win this game?

Non sequitur. Of course they can win. But there's no sound reason to believe they will. If they do, it will be a wonderful surprise. Belief, like respect, has to be earned.

Golly gee, I'd say it takes more testicular fortitude to ask that we believe going into the game against and undefeated team rather than sit up on your high horse spouting nonsense similar to those whor roost amongst the DCC and CRAP realists.

How so? This was a risk-free act on his part. He knew that the usual suspects would speed to his rescue if the realists (aka, fake "fans") dared deviate from the preferred narrative, and damn if that isn't exactly what happened. If he had any balls, he'd post this empty-headed feel-good hucksterism at DCC.

There was no "transparent cheap shot" unless you took it as one because as a fan you can't believe we can possibly beat the Saints.

Show we where I said as much. Last week, I predicted we'd beat the Chargers 33-18. Do I get credit for that or does it conveniently go down the memory hole?

Your posts have never gleamed with brightness. I'm not saying that's indicative of your personality. I'm saying your ideas aren't that original and if you think the Saints are going to win then you should wager on them. You could profit greatly from believing we'll lose, especially if you bet a lot. Then you can come back and tell us how much money you won for being right.

Gambling's illegal. Say, how much are you betting on the Boys to win or cover? I'm guessing nada.

Subtle you aint.

I'll settle for honest, which is a rarity in these parts.

Debbie Downer can come back and say I told you so if we lose. I'm still a fan; I was just being realistic. And I won 5 grand, so it makes me feel better. But I would have still been happy had they won.

Did you go to school to get this way or does it just come natural? Btw, the shills and lemmings never show any contrition or humility after a defeat, so I'm not sure why you'd expert the realists to act any better.

Hypocrite.

Stooge.
 

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It's so refreshing when otherwise fun threads get clogged with thread-poop and tissue paper. Is there a self-loathing forum on DCC where this sort of intellectual honesty is considered entertaining? If not, they should totally consider starting one...there.
 

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bbgun;3155084 said:
Non sequitur. Of course they can win. But there's no sound reason to believe they will. If they do, it will be a wonderful surprise. Belief, like respect, has to be earned.

If there is a possibility then you believe they might win. You're chasing your tail and can't seem to catch it. Round and round with no real point other than you're disappointed about a few losses from the past and can't get over them.

You say they can win, but there is no sound reason to believe they will. And I like the italics emphasizing belief when you freely admit they can win, which is a form of believing, I'd think.



How so? This was a risk-free act on his part. He knew that the usual suspects would speed to his rescue if the realists (aka, fake "fans") dared deviate from the preferred narrative, and damn if that isn't exactly what happened. If he had any balls, he'd post this empty-headed feel-good hucksterism at DCC.
LMAO! Because that's where people with balls hang out, right? CZ is the empty-headed feel-good forum, but you have how many posts here? Me thinks Debbie Downer should frequent that site more often. I don't see what your point is. And what does "risk" have to do with anything unless you, like those at DCC, are more concerned about your cyber-ego than the boys actually winning?



Show we where I said as much. Last week, I predicted we'd beat the Chargers 33-18. Do I get credit for that or does it conveniently go down the memory hole?
I bet it that hurt your pride to be wrong more than it did to see the boys lose. And your whole post was a transparent cheap shot at theebs. By calling him out in DCC fashion saying he wouldn't have the nuts to post this over there. By God, that's a cheap shot if I've ever seen one. Heaven forbid you respect his opinion and view that bellyaching fans are the worst kind of message board fans. Egos and insults seem to be more of a concern to you and your DCC ilk than any positive attitude about a team that has shown bright spots and is still very much in the playoff race.

And you said it yourself in the beginning of the thread. There is no sound reason to believe they will win, but of course they can. Do you see the paradox you're naively wondering around in yet?



Gambling's illegal. Say, how much are you betting on the Boys to win or cover? I'm guessing nada.
Do you want to bet? How about an avatar change of the winners choice, where the loser has to wear the avatar for a week? Or, the rest of the season? I'd be willing. I'm not sure if your ego could take such a battering, if by a smaller chance I win. I'm not in denial. The odds are in your favor, but I still believe based on my feeling about this team. We're even on the road. But let me know if you want to take this bet.




I'll settle for honest, which is a rarity in these parts.
But you're not being honest, you believe they can win (which is belief), but you see no sound reason that they will. Not even one reason. That's not being intellectually honest with yourself. You're wondering around in a paradox and you don't even know it.


Did you go to school to get this way or does it just come natural? Btw, the shills and lemmings never show any contrition or humility after a defeat, so I'm not sure why you'd expert the realists to act any better.
I went to a top 20 school in Austin. But that has nothing to do with pointing out your paradoxical reasoning. I'm not a fan of this method. It reeks of bbgun egocentric thinking; void of the reality that we can win, according to yourself, when, again, you freely admit that we can win. Which is belief. Yet you deny the notion of believing as being fallacious altogether. So it's your ego talking, not your intellect. Which I find to be highly intellectually dishonest.



Oxymoron.
 

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bbgun;3155084 said:
Non sequitur. Of course they can win. But there's no sound reason to believe they will. If they do, it will be a wonderful surprise. Belief, like respect, has to be earned.

If there is a possibility then you believe they might win. You're chasing your tail and can't seem to catch it. Round and round with no real point other than you're disappointed about a few losses from the past and can't get over them.

You say they can win, but there is no sound reason to believe they will. And I like the italics emphasizing belief when you freely admit they can win, which is a form of believing, I'd think.



How so? This was a risk-free act on his part. He knew that the usual suspects would speed to his rescue if the realists (aka, fake "fans") dared deviate from the preferred narrative, and damn if that isn't exactly what happened. If he had any balls, he'd post this empty-headed feel-good hucksterism at DCC.

LMAO! Because that's where people with balls hang out, right? CZ is the empty-headed feel-good forum, but you have how many posts here? Me thinks Debbie Downer should frequent that site more often. I don't see what your point is. And what does "risk" have to do with anything unless you, like those at DCC, are more concerned about your cyber-ego than the boys actually winning?



Show we where I said as much. Last week, I predicted we'd beat the Chargers 33-18. Do I get credit for that or does it conveniently go down the memory hole?

I bet that hurt your pride to be wrong more than it did to see the boys lose. And your whole post was a transparent cheap shot at theebs. By calling him out in DCC fashion saying he wouldn't have the nuts to post this over there. By God, that's a cheap shot if I've ever seen one. Heaven forbid you respect his opinion and view that bellyaching fans are the worst kind of message board fans. Egos and insults seem to be more of a concern to you and your DCC ilk than any positive attitude about a team that has shown bright spots and is still very much in the playoff race.

And you said it yourself in the beginning of the thread. There is no sound reason to believe they will win, but of course they can. Do you see the paradox you're naively wondering around in yet?



Gambling's illegal. Say, how much are you betting on the Boys to win or cover? I'm guessing nada.

Do you want to bet? How about an avatar change of the winners choice, where the loser has to wear the avatar for a week? Or, the rest of the season? I'd be willing. I'm not sure if your ego could take such a battering, if by a smaller chance I win. I'm not in denial. The odds are in your favor, but I still believe based on my feeling about this team. We're even on the road. But let me know if you want to take this bet.




I'll settle for honest, which is a rarity in these parts.

But you're not being honest, you believe they can win (which is belief), but you see no sound reason that they will. Not even one reason. That's not being intellectually honest with yourself. You're wondering around in a paradox and you don't even know it.


Did you go to school to get this way or does it just come natural? Btw, the shills and lemmings never show any contrition or humility after a defeat, so I'm not sure why you'd expert the realists to act any better.

I went to a top 20 school in Austin. But that has nothing to do with pointing out your paradoxical reasoning. I'm not a fan of this method. It reeks of bbgun egocentric thinking; void of the reality that we can win, according to yourself, when you admit that we can win. Which is belief. Yet you deny the notion that you believe in altogether. So it's your ego talking, not your intellect. Which I find to be highly intellectually dishonest.




Oxymoron.
 
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