Benardrick McKinney In Round One?

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I'll take McKinney in the 1st at 27 over Kendricks any day. McKinney was productive in college and is an exceptional athlete and has exceptional size. Can be our starting SAM LB on day 1 and can also rush in certain situations.
 

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Interesting thought here perhaps....

I know everyone is tired of the AP talk but here's my one bold outside the box prediction:

Hitchens might actually be served as a nice trade piece to Minnesota in a deal. Still has 3 years of making 700k salary a year and a productive quality starter. That might look extremely attractive as a trade chip. Let's just say there is smoke here with Mckinney and Kendricks at 27....how does that make sense with Lee,Rolondo and Hitchens on the roster already? I guess devils advocate would say that Rolondo and Lee arn't really long term solutions. Can we really afford to "redshirt" guys with our first rounder? First rounders need to be day 1 starters IMO.

Now on to my prediction...does Hitchens and a 2nd for AP interest you? We lose Hitchens but we gain Kendricks or Mckinney to fill the spot with our first.
 

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Not at 27. That mindset at 27 sounds foolish to me.

I guess I can agree to disagree then. I honestly cannot see how you could look at our linebackers and come away with the conclusions we have drafted them well with only three of them on our roster (one that is a sure-fire starter, an injury prone one at that) or have long term answers in place with only two having long-term contracts. I was hoping for something with a little more substance than a general "mindset seems foolish" honestly, because I am all sorts of down with listening to reason, but in truth your counter points have been fairly vague.

If you feel like offering up some basis on why you feel we should not upgrade there, especially if one of these guys are their best player on their board, then I would love to hear it (being serious, I am fairly open to persuasion).
 

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I dreamed last night that we drafted him after a small move back in the first.

I just turned 50 y/o this year-when I was yonger I dreamed of the cheerleaders.
 

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I like the lock on a 1st round choice LB McKinney better than Kendricks or OO who should both slide into round 2.
 

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Maybe it was already expressed by someone else in here and I missed it. I wonder if the interest in McKinney hints at a significant trade back, where we would be picking up ammo for a QB trade up next year. Might explain the interest in Devin Smith and DGB too.
 

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Maybe it was already expressed by someone else in here and I missed it. I wonder if the interest in McKinney hints at a significant trade back, where we would be picking up ammo for a QB trade up next year. Might explain the interest in Devin Smith and DGB too.

Unless someone falls then you would have to think so. The big problem would be if anyone would be interested in actually trading up. The good news is that they seem to need a talent infusion on all three levels of their defense, so they should have at least a few guys there that they can justify selecting.
 

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I guess I can agree to disagree then. I honestly cannot see how you could look at our linebackers and come away with the conclusions we have drafted them well with only three of them on our roster (one that is a sure-fire starter, an injury prone one at that) or have long term answers in place with only two having long-term contracts. I was hoping for something with a little more substance than a general "mindset seems foolish" honestly, because I am all sorts of down with listening to reason, but in truth your counter points have been fairly vague.

If you feel like offering up some basis on why you feel we should not upgrade there, especially if one of these guys are their best player on their board, then I would love to hear it (being serious, I am fairly open to persuasion).

The "foolish mindset" remark for levity in response to you quote about them being foolish not to follow their board. It was sarcasm.

You also have to take into account Bruce Carter, who just got paid in FA. If we had kept him, LB wouldn't even be a topic for discussion. So, that's Lee, Carter, Hitchens and Wilber right off hand. Then you factor in how well we have done bringing in cheap FA's, McClain, Durant, Brinkley (who I think is very underrated) and Rivers (who may never play).

With all that in mind, I don't see any reason to reach for someone at 27, or take a player at 27 who may be nothing more than depth. I don't know who it is in the scouting/coaching department (McClay maybe?) but someone is very good at pinpointing specific qualities in linebackers that make them good fits for this defense. I don't think Lee is going anywhere unless he retires. Hitchens is going into his second year. RoMc is on a prove it deal, but there is no reason to believe if he proves it, they won't make a play for him. Brinkley is signed for multiple years.

I think we need a linebacker or two, but I don't think it's a pressing need. You can't draft for injury assurance. You have to go by your board and value. If we were to trade back and get Kendricks, I would be ecstatic, so it's not like I am saying avoid the position all together. I am just saying, I think a more impact (right away) player might be there.

Then again, all that said, I was really hoping for Peters until the most recent report came out. So I might be alright with Kendricks at 27 now. Just not entirely sure Kendricks is a significant upgrade from Perryman, who can be had much later. That is purely my opinion though. I am ok with smaller linebackers, particularly in this defense.

I'll also say this. I know very very little about McKinney, but if they believe he can be a good pass rusher as well as a stout middle LB, I would not be opposed to him at 27 either. I honestly don't know much about him though.
 

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The "foolish mindset" remark for levity in response to you quote about them being foolish not to follow their board. It was sarcasm.

You also have to take into account Bruce Carter, who just got paid in FA. If we had kept him, LB wouldn't even be a topic for discussion. So, that's Lee, Carter, Hitchens and Wilber right off hand. Then you factor in how well we have done bringing in cheap FA's, McClain, Durant, Brinkley (who I think is very underrated) and Rivers (who may never play).

With all that in mind, I don't see any reason to reach for someone at 27, or take a player at 27 who may be nothing more than depth. I don't know who it is in the scouting/coaching department (McClay maybe?) but someone is very good at pinpointing specific qualities in linebackers that make them good fits for this defense. I don't think Lee is going anywhere unless he retires. Hitchens is going into his second year. RoMc is on a prove it deal, but there is no reason to believe if he proves it, they won't make a play for him. Brinkley is signed for multiple years.

I think we need a linebacker or two, but I don't think it's a pressing need. You can't draft for injury assurance. You have to go by your board and value. If we were to trade back and get Kendricks, I would be ecstatic, so it's not like I am saying avoid the position all together. I am just saying, I think a more impact (right away) player might be there.

Then again, all that said, I was really hoping for Peters until the most recent report came out. So I might be alright with Kendricks at 27 now. Just not entirely sure Kendricks is a significant upgrade from Perryman, who can be had much later. That is purely my opinion though. I am ok with smaller linebackers, particularly in this defense.

I'll also say this. I know very very little about McKinney, but if they believe he can be a good pass rusher as well as a stout middle LB, I would not be opposed to him at 27 either. I honestly don't know much about him though.

Thorough and well communicated. Thanks for giving me the insight on your mindset, it is always appreciated!
 

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Thorough and well communicated. Thanks for giving me the insight on your mindset, it is always appreciated!

Sorry, just with some attitudes around here lately, I haven't felt the need to elevate my posts into clearly thought out proposals. There is so much "I'm smarter than you" going around here the last few weeks I am avoiding it at all costs.
 

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Kendricks and OO have major injury concerns, how did that work out with Sean Lee. Right now, McKinney is a far safer choice.

Dallas Historically, at least since Jerry came on, has played things safe with regard to healthy Draft choices, and I feel this trend will continue with the exception of Sean Lee and Bruce Carter it has been rare, plus they were not 1st round picks.

Trade down looking good, let someone else have the problem kids. Dallas has enough "inmates running the prison" already with Dez and the Kraken.

Remember besides Bryant and Hardy the Front Office is also fresh off a good house cleaning with Rattliff and Co., not sure the path is available for the Cowboys to Draft a Shane Ray, Randy Gregory, Marcus Peters or Dorian Beckham-Green.
 
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