Best chance in years to grab a top RB

[dfense]

One year. Where is he?

I think he's in Tennessee, last I checked. What's the point?

 

[dfense]

Top HB in that draft is still hasn't cranked out a single 1,000 season

Yup, and as far as the others, you can't even name them.

 

[calvin]

i bet not many remember the 1977 NFL Draft, that was the year we traded our #14th pick and 3 second rounders to move up to #2 (Seattle) and select Tony Dorsett. what a feeling it was to know you got Tony Dorsett.

While son may remember it, it is not applicable to today's NFL. Thxgam is fundamenty different than it was then.

In 1976 Cliff Branch led the league in rception with 79. He averaged under 6 receptions per game.

In that era I made sense to invest a high pick in a RB when the top 10 rbs averaged 250 carries a season.

In today's pass happy NFL where average qbs throw for 3,500yds, top TEs have 90 receptions and teams employ rb by committee, the positional value simply is no longer there. You can do it but its not viewed as a wise allocation of (precious) resources.

 

[HappyOnions]

I was originally on the Zeke train until we signed Morris. Now I think it's probably the worst pick we could make.

Next years draft class will be loaded at the RB position. Better to fill a more glaring need this year (or grab a future QB) and grab a RB next year ( if Morris and McFadden don't work out)

 

[dfense]

1 year only, all pro 1800+ yards, 12 fumbles including a big one costing us playoff game, then we don't sign him, that's why we are in this position now, we let an all pro RB go, lol

So your saying he cost the Cowboys games with his fumbling and then complaining they didn't sign him? If Romo played all season, McFadden wouldn't go 2 carries and punt 10 times a game. He would probably have had 1300 to 1400 yards easy. Because Tony would get that 5-7 yard 1st down all day. Just like 2014.

Other than Peterson, who is on a different level, here are the rushers who got at least 1000 yards last year. I left McFadden (4th) out.
Doug Martin 31st overall 2010
Todd Gurley 10th overall 2015
Chris Ivory undrafted free agent
Latavious Murrey 181st overall 2013
Devonte Freeman 103rd overall 2014

See a trend?

 

[dfense]

Then there's always these 1st round RB gems.

Since 2010, Doug Martin was ok, Mark Ingram took a couple years to show anything. Then there's the rest.

TJ Spiller
Jahvid Best
Mark Ingram
Trent Richardson
David Wilson

 

[cowboys2233]

Hmm.

No.

And there have been a 1,000 posts why they will not draft him at #4.

And you're wrong. Know that.

 

[DeaconMoss]

How often do the Cowboys have a chance at the top RB in the draft.

I say hardly ever. Once again we can always get a DE or CB in the draft or FA (though we may overpay) but if you don't draft a pro bowl type RB it will be hard to grab one in FA or late in the draft that you can depend on.

Zeke has it all, Zeke can play all 3 downs, Zeke can catch out the back field, Zeke is a great blocker, Zeke has no injury history ala McFadden and Matthews. Morris is a good pickup, I like him but only as a backup.

Zeke behind this line does 2 things we can really use.

1- Zeke can block (reminds me of Emmitt and how Emmitt protected Aikman on blitzes)
2- Zeke can wear down a defense which in turn keeps our offense on the field and the defense staying fresh.

I have no doubt the Cowboys will draft Zeke, well they better. Ramsey is maybe the only other player I want at #4 but to maximize our great OL and to protect Romo let's put a RB 6-1 225, runs a 4.4 behind them

It ain't happening at 4. Sorry brotato chip.

 

[DeaconMoss]

i bet not many remember the 1977 NFL Draft, that was the year we traded our #14th pick and 3 second rounders to move up to #2 (Seattle) and select Tony Dorsett. what a feeling it was to know you got Tony Dorsett.

Tony Dorsett? Cmon man. Don't even make that comparison. Dorsett?

 

[Fletch]

DeMarco Murray. 3rd round pick 71 6th RB selected overall. ALL PRO

Murray had a great O-line that made him all-pro. And he was a third rounder. Just think what Elliott could do behind this O-line.

 

[Fletch]

It ain't happening at 4. Sorry brotato chip.

But I want more, brotein shake. More running back.

 

[percyhoward]

i bet not many remember the 1977 NFL Draft, that was the year we traded our #14th pick and 3 second rounders to move up to #2 (Seattle) and select Tony Dorsett. what a feeling it was to know you got Tony Dorsett.

I remember the feeling, and I remember how that pick won the Super Bowl for us. But...

1976 Cowboys
defense 5th
pass offense 6th
yards per rush 18th

2015 Cowboys
defense 17th
pass offense 30th
yards per rush 6th

In 1976, the running game was the only thing wrong with the team. In 2015, it was the only thing right. We need a good young RB, but we need a lot more help in other areas.

 

[erod]

But I want more, brotein shake. More running back.

I agree, Teddy Brosevelt.

 

[LittleD]

I remember the feeling, and I remember how that pick won the Super Bowl for us. But...

1976 Cowboys
defense 5th
pass offense 6th
yards per rush 18th

2015 Cowboys
defense 17th
pass offense 30th
yards per rush 6th

In 1976, the running game was the only thing wrong with the team. In 2015, it was the only thing right. We need a good young RB, but we need a lot more help in other areas.

If we take Zeke in the 1st, we still have 8 chances to improve the defense. Romo will be back for awhile anyway and Zeke will make him and the offense better by far.

 

[Section446]

It's actually much easier to get a quality RB then it is to get a CB or DE. Usually much cheaper too.

There's a good chance that Ramsey will be gone by #4, it'll come down to how much you value Bosa. If we're taking a BPA approach, and it comes down to Elliott vs. Bosa, there's no doubt that Elliott is the better player. What's going to make things complicated is if it comes down to Elliott vs. Goff vs. Ramsey. Our best case scenario is SD or Cleveland taking Bosa, he's the one player I simply do not want.

 

[Craig]

There's a good chance that Ramsey will be gone by #4, it'll come down to how much you value Bosa. If we're taking a BPA approach, and it comes down to Elliott vs. Bosa, there's no doubt that Elliott is the better player. What's going to make things complicated is if it comes down to Elliott vs. Goff vs. Ramsey. Our best case scenario is SD or Cleveland taking Bosa, he's the one player I simply do not want.

If you dont count qbs, elliot is a fringe top 5 player in the draft. He wont be bpa at 4.

 

[Ken]

How often do the Cowboys have a chance at the top RB in the draft.

I say hardly ever. Once again we can always get a DE or CB in the draft or FA (though we may overpay) but if you don't draft a pro bowl type RB it will be hard to grab one in FA or late in the draft that you can depend on.

Zeke has it all, Zeke can play all 3 downs, Zeke can catch out the back field, Zeke is a great blocker, Zeke has no injury history ala McFadden and Matthews. Morris is a good pickup, I like him but only as a backup.

Zeke behind this line does 2 things we can really use.

1- Zeke can block (reminds me of Emmitt and how Emmitt protected Aikman on blitzes)
2- Zeke can wear down a defense which in turn keeps our offense on the field and the defense staying fresh.

I have no doubt the Cowboys will draft Zeke, well they better. Ramsey is maybe the only other player I want at #4 but to maximize our great OL and to protect Romo let's put a RB 6-1 225, runs a 4.4 behind them

So my question is...can we get a similar player in the 2nd round or later at each of their respective positions?

In Ramsey's case.....no. There are no other dynamic, elite level dbs in the 2nd or 3rd.

There are other RVs who could make a big impact on this team in the 2nd or 3rd ..

 

[Mountaineerfan]

i bet not many remember the 1977 NFL Draft, that was the year we traded our #14th pick and 3 second rounders to move up to #2 (Seattle) and select Tony Dorsett. what a feeling it was to know you got Tony Dorsett.

So is Zeke on the same level as Tony Dorsett or are you just pointing out that talent at RB once cost a lot more?

 

[CowboyChris]

So is Zeke on the same level as Tony Dorsett or are you just pointing out that talent at RB once cost a lot more?

I can't answer that question...but the feeling would be the same. Tony D had the better college career, but Elliot's was impressive as well.

 

[CowboyChris]

There's a good chance that Ramsey will be gone by #4, it'll come down to how much you value Bosa. If we're taking a BPA approach, and it comes down to Elliott vs. Bosa, there's no doubt that Elliott is the better player. What's going to make things complicated is if it comes down to Elliott vs. Goff vs. Ramsey. Our best case scenario is SD or Cleveland taking Bosa, he's the one player I simply do not want.

if it came down to that, I would take Goff...but i can imagine the trade down possibilities would be enormous.