Best Cowboy WR Since Irvin Was Drafted

[Doomsday101]

I went with Glenn and the main reason he has been producing for the Cowboys now for the last 4 years with 2 seasons over 1,000 yards receiving. As for TO he has been with the team only 1 season and if over the course of the next year or 2 years I may give another answer but as of now Glenn

 

[WoodysGirl]

Aww you are no fun today

Haven't had my morning coffee. On my way now.

 

[YosemiteSam]

How dumb. There is officially 87 TO haters that have voted so far. Without question, TO is by miles and miles better than any other receiver the Cowboys have had since Irvin. Glenn isn't even a true #1.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I went with Glenn and the main reason he has been producing for the Cowboys now for the last 4 years with 2 seasons over 1,000 yards receiving. As for TO he has been with the team only 1 season and if over the course of the next year or 2 years I may give another answer but as of now Glenn

The question was the "Best Cowboys Receiver since TO" not "Which Cowboys receiver produced the most yards or TDs for the Cowboys". Anyhow, in four years, Glenn produced 20 TDs, Owens on a down year (by his standards) produced 13 (or 65% of Glenn's four seasons tally)

It's not even close.

 

[Doomsday101]

The question was the "Best Cowboys Receiver since TO" not "Which Cowboys receiver produced the most yards or TDs for the Cowboys". Anyhow, in four years, Glenn produced 20 TDs, Owens on a down year (by his standards) produced 13 (or 65% of Glenn's four seasons tally)

It's not even close.

Glenn is the best we have had and in my opinion it is not what you do in 1 year but how you produce over a period of time. As I mentioned if TO can continue to produce then my mind will change but I don't base anything on 1 year for all I know TO could have a major melt down this season but Glenn has produced pretty much year in and year out.

 

[THUMPER]

How dumb. There is officially 87 TO haters that have voted so far. Without question, TO is by miles and miles better than any other receiver the Cowboys have had since Irvin. Glenn isn't even a true #1.

Owens: Targeted 152 times, 85 receptions (55.9% caught), 17 drops (11.2%), 13 TDs (8.6%).

Glenn: Targeted 110 times, 70 receptions (63.6% caught), 3 drops (2.7%), 6 TDs (5.5%).

You figure it out.

 

[WoodysGirl]

How dumb. There is officially 87 TO haters that have voted so far. Without question, TO is by miles and miles better than any other receiver the Cowboys have had since Irvin. Glenn isn't even a true #1.

What's dumb is you stating that people are dumb for liking another player other than TO. This is an opinion-based poll, remember?

 

[Crown Royal]

I voted Terry Glenn not because I think he is better than TO, but because he has provided the Cowboys with a better body of work thus far, an has therefore been the best COWBOYS RECEIVER.

For what it's worth, Crayton has been the best home grown prospect since Irvin.

 

[YosemiteSam]

What's dumb is you stating that people are dumb for liking another player other than TO. This is an opinion-based poll, remember?

No no no. What I said was that TO was better than Terry Glenn and that WAS the question that was ask. Not only was TO the answer it was the obvious answer. The question didn't ask "What Cowboys receiver do you like better", it ask what "Cowboys receiver was/is the better receiver?"

Don't get mad at me WG, I was only brutally pointing out the bias. :

 

[Colo]

Glenn is great, but you can't argue with Owen's production last year. Imagine his numbers if not for the hand injury and with Romo behind center for the whole year..

 

[YosemiteSam]

Owens: Targeted 152 times, 85 receptions (55.9% caught), 17 drops (11.2%), 13 TDs (8.6%).

Glenn: Targeted 110 times, 70 receptions (63.6% caught), 3 drops (2.7%), 6 TDs (5.5%).

You figure it out.

Glenn:  6TDs, Yards: 1,047, 70 Receptions, First Downs: 47, SL Rec. Player Ranking: #22
Owens: 13TDs, Yards: 1,180, 85 Receptions, First Downs: 62, SL Rec. Player Ranking:  #5

Now Mr. Thumper; YOU FIGURE IT OUT. Don't come in with your "selective stat" listing trying to make a point, because the truth will come out.

 

[WoodysGirl]

No no no. What I said was that TO was better than Terry Glenn and that WAS the question that was ask. Not only was TO the answer it was the obvious answer. The question didn't ask "What Cowboys receiver do you like better", it ask what "Cowboys receiver was/is the better receiver?"

Don't get mad at me WG, I was only brutally pointing out the bias. :

Not mad and I don't think there was any bias in the votes. People have preferences. Yours is TO and I won't knock that. I don't think anybody should. It's not a cut and dry answer for some people. TO might be the most talented Cowboys receiver since Irvin, but it doesn't mean that others should think he's been the best Cowboys receiver. He's only been here one year. He had a solid year. Let's see him do it again.

There's no right or wrong answer as to who someone feels has been the best Cowboys WR since Irvin. Someone earlier posted that Alvin Harper was. While I might not agree, I don't think he's knocking TO by saying it.

 

[superpunk]

No no no. What I said was that TO was better than Terry Glenn and that WAS the question that was ask. Not only was TO the answer it was the obvious answer. The question didn't ask "What Cowboys receiver do you like better", it ask what "Cowboys receiver was/is the better receiver?"

This is truth.

But the guy with tenure (Glenn) is gonna get some strong votes. The gap in their production wasnt enormous last year, based on how often each was targeted - even if the talent gap is pretty large.

 

[WoodysGirl]

This is truth.

But the guy with tenure (Glenn) is gonna get some strong votes. The gap in their production wasnt enormous last year, based on how often each was targeted - even if the talent gap is pretty large.

I agree with this to a point. I don't know that the gap is that large. They have different skill sets and what they each do, they do well.

 

[superpunk]

I agree with this to a point. I don't know that the gap is that large. They have different skill sets and what they each do, they do well.

You're right, the gap isn't enormous. But it is there, and in TO's favor. The way I took the poll (best Cowboys receiver since Irvin) that was my criteria.

Glenn's done mroe for us, but TO is the better receiver.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Anyone who didn't vote for TO (other than JustSayNo) really should have their head examined.

I didn't vote for T.O. 'cause I don't like him. I'll go see my doctor this afternoon because I don't like T.O.

 

[WoodysGirl]

You're right, the gap isn't enormous. But it is there, and in TO's favor. The way I took the poll (best Cowboys receiver since Irvin) that was my criteria.

Glenn's done mroe for us, but TO is the better receiver.

I agree that TO has the edge, but it's not a big one in my mind.

As I mentioned earlier, there is no wrong answer. Everyone uses a different criteria to determine who they feel is best. And though the question of the poll is fairly straightforward, alot is still left up to interpretation.

 

[iceberg]

You're right, the gap isn't enormous. But it is there, and in TO's favor. The way I took the poll (best Cowboys receiver since Irvin) that was my criteria.

Glenn's done mroe for us, but TO is the better receiver.

even if this is true - how sad is it that a WR can come in here and in simply 1 year, be better than anyone we've had in over 15 years straight?

i went for glenn cause he's been here longer, is a STEAL for how we got him, and hasn't caused a bit of trouble other than a late night whiz outside a fast food place. those like nyc that wanna say i'm wrong need to get a life and quit being so protective of your own OPINION.

 

[iceberg]

How dumb. There is officially 87 TO haters that have voted so far. Without question, TO is by miles and miles better than any other receiver the Cowboys have had since Irvin. Glenn isn't even a true #1.

our criteria is simply different, nyc.

get over it and quit calling people haters.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Someone earlier posted that Alvin Harper was. While I might not agree, I don't think he's knocking TO by saying it.

I don't think the knock would be on TO for someone saying that. It would more likely be on the person saying it.

You must understand I'm a left-brained logical thnker. When breaking down a problem/question I separate hard facts from irrational bias and then judge only the facts. Here are the facts as I see them.

While superpunk pointed out that there wasn't a huge gap between the stats, I think there was more to it than it appears.

First, Owens had more 15 more catches. 15 doesn't sound like much, but it's actually 18% more catches and it would have taken Glenn based on his avg catches per game 3.5 more games to even up with Owens. On top of that, those 15 extra catches that Owens made all of them account for first downs above what Glenn made. Glenn had 47 1st downs vs TO who had 62 1st downs. TO had exactly 15 more catches and 15 more first downs than Glenn. So, not only did TO have more catches, the catches he did make were much more valuable catches. Of course, those are just first downs and it doesn't include the 7 more TDs (or 42 more points) that TO scored. I can continue, but I come here to enjoy myself not bicker.