Best Cowboy WR Since Irvin Was Drafted

[superpunk]

No, it wasn't. I voted on the question because I read it as asking who has been the Cowboys best WR since Irvin. I think there is no question that TO is a better receiver than Glenn, but he has only been a Cowboys WR for a year. Glenn has put up an impressive body of work over 4 years, which is why he got my vote.

It's all in how you took the question, I guess.

These two statements would be true, IMO

"The best WR to play for the Cowboys since Irvin is Terrell Owens"

"The best WR for the Cowboys since Irvin is Terry Glenn."

Just depends on how you took the poll. I thought it was pretty clear that the answer had to be TO -but some took it differently. It was still a good shot, tho, for the funniness.

 

[YosemiteSam]

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[Idgit]

I wasn't aware this was based on production here alone. In that case, why the hell even compare? How could a receiver with only 1 year with the team possibly compete against a receiver with 4 years with the team?

But if you're talking about which is and has been the better receiver, it's not even close.

What's the point of comparing the receivers in completely different offenses? Over there careers, of course TO was the better WR. That was all before his time off, his hand injury, and his introduction to our offensive system.

Here, in the Dallas system, which is what I took the poll to mean by 'best Cowboy WR,' Glenn had more impact last year given fewer opportunities. TO was very close IMHO, but he was rusty to start the season (or Bledsoe had issues with him), had more than a few garbage TDs inside the 10 that could just as easily gone to Witten or a RB, and dropped the game winner in Washington.

None of that includes factors like the penalty for sleeping on the ball in the end zone and calling out his WR coach in the press. Qualitative factors come in to play when you're selecting a subjective term like 'the best.'

That said, I expect him to be the better WR this coming season, and I do think that by the end of the year, playing with Tony Romo, he looked more like the player he was in Philly and SF.

 

[iceberg]

TO also got open more than Glenn did. Considering defenses keyed on Owens and not Glenn last year, that makes the feat just that much more impressive.

All things are not equal.

not when you're talking to someone who'll refute any point and twist to their side whatever they have to.

you're taking this way too seriously dude. it's just an opinion. if you're that insecure about your own opinion an opposing one makes you reach so, you got some issues you need to go work out.

is TO better than Glenn *overall* - i can see that. but i value what glenn has done in the 4 years here vs. the 1 year of owens. i value the committment and the durability he's shown he's not really noted for.

all things no, are not equal. neither are opinions, it seems. i'll stand by my glenn pick and just not give a flip what the children think cause they're not ready for "open thought" about it anyway.

only their own views. gets old.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I voted for T.O. because he's Playmaker part 2. He can do it all.



*Please know I went back and forth between him and T. Glenn but T.O. has always been a true number option WR.

 

[iceberg]

Anyone who didn't vote for TO (other than JustSayNo) really should have their head examined.

Great. I'll base it on something that's not completely stupid.

Next question:

Who was the better running back for the Dallas Cowboys -- Marion Barber III or Emmitt Smith?*


*This poll is based solely on their production for the team in the year 2006.

it's a "cowboys" poll, as i take it. not an overall career poll.

if you talk who in the end is a better WR, sure. owens.

if you're talking who's been better for the cowboys, i go glenn.

i can see where some would go owens there too and that's fine. what's anally boring are those who simply can't stand it when "their boy" isn't the love child of all for whatever reason they pull out of their wa-ha-ha.

 

[superpunk]

not when you're talking to someone who'll refute any point and twist to their side whatever they have to.

only their own views. gets old.

all things no, are not equal. neither are opinions, it seems. i'll stand by my glenn pick and just not give a flip what the children think cause they're not ready for "open thought" about it anyway.

What do "irony" mean?

 

[iceberg]

I just love how folks go to extremes to make a point.

it's even worse when they want that extreme to apply to the middle ground as if it really does.

 

[iceberg]

What do "irony" mean?

if you're talking about me - you need a lot longer of a history around me than just last years parcells bashing. but since you don't have that -

HAHA - good one! i'm gonna go slap a knee now!

 

[superpunk]

if you're talking about me - you need a lot longer of a history around me than just last years parcells bashing. but since you don't have that -

HAHA - good one! i'm gonna go slap a knee now!

I have no idea what you're talking about.

It was ironic, because you bashed the "children" for only acknowledging their own views - while in the same post saying that you "don't give a flip what the children think"...

had nothing to do with Purcells.

 

[iceberg]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

It was ironic, because you bashed the "children" for only acknowledging their own views - while in the same post saying that you "don't give a flip what the children think"...

had nothing to do with Purcells.

sorry - thought you were taking a dig at past postings.

when they prove to me they won't listen, no. if you look at all my threads, i *do in fact say* they have a point, and a valid one with owens.

so i must be able to understand, comprehend and appreciate their thoughts in this. HOWEVER, when they turn around and simply refuse to see another point of view and just get insulting about it, why listen?

no in that instance i simply don't care what they think. do i tell them they can't think it?

nope. never said that.

do i tell them they're wrong in what they think?

don't think i said that either.

just said i don't give a damn and that isn't the same thing. idiots have a right to think whatever they want. all hail the idiot. but that doesn't mean i have to care or listen now does it?

so that's why i missed the "irony" because i don't see it there. on the other hand i was pretty hard headed about parcells and the OL so i could more see it there. besides, it's still tuesday and i'm not awake yet.

apologies for my own confusion and thanks for the explanation - i just don't agree.

 

[Vintage]

not when you're talking to someone who'll refute any point and twist to their side whatever they have to.

you're taking this way too seriously dude. it's just an opinion. if you're that insecure about your own opinion an opposing one makes you reach so, you got some issues you need to go work out.

is TO better than Glenn *overall* - i can see that. but i value what glenn has done in the 4 years here vs. the 1 year of owens. i value the committment and the durability he's shown he's not really noted for.

all things no, are not equal. neither are opinions, it seems. i'll stand by my glenn pick and just not give a flip what the children think cause they're not ready for "open thought" about it anyway.

only their own views. gets old.

Yeah, sorry for being young and not old, cranky, and senile.

We'll try to speed up the process some. I hear Viagra is like money for old people. I'll give that a shot....



If you want a board where only people of a certain age can be admitted, why not suggest it to the admins. Or quit complaining about some of us younger fans chiming in.

 

[iceberg]

Yeah, sorry for being young and not old, cranky, and senile.

We'll try to speed up the process some. I hear Viagra is like money for old people. I'll give that a shot....



If you want a board where only people of a certain age can be admitted, why not suggest it to the admins. Or quit complaining about some of us younger fans chiming in.

wow - never even was talking to you as far as i know.

not sure 41 is old, cranky fits these days sure. senile? hell ask enough people we're all crazy and stupid.

but having an open mind isn't a bad thing. having a NO NO NO I WON'T HEAR IT it mind is usually a sign of younger people who are not secure in their own thoughts and knowledge. but yes, i see it in old farts too but not as often. the older you get the less *everything is a battle i must win!" mentality you have.

and again - selective reading. i already said i agreed and can see their viewpoints and my real "issue" is i wish they'd stop whining for a bit about TO being a holy nuggett and be more open to what the other 1/2 is saying in why they chose glenn.

 

[superpunk]

sorry - thought you were taking a dig at past postings.

when they prove to me they won't listen, no. if you look at all my threads, i *do in fact say* they have a point, and a valid one with owens.

so i must be able to understand, comprehend and appreciate their thoughts in this. HOWEVER, when they turn around and simply refuse to see another point of view and just get insulting about it, why listen?

no in that instance i simply don't care what they think. do i tell them they can't think it?

nope. never said that.

do i tell them they're wrong in what they think?

don't think i said that either.

just said i don't give a damn and that isn't the same thing. idiots have a right to think whatever they want. all hail the idiot. but that doesn't mean i have to care or listen now does it?

so that's why i missed the "irony" because i don't see it there. on the other hand i was pretty hard headed about parcells and the OL so i could more see it there. besides, it's still tuesday and i'm not awake yet.

apologies for my own confusion and thanks for the explanation - i just don't agree.

Congratulations, I have no idea what is going on here. I didn't say you were a hypocrite (although that post in a vacuum suggests it). I just observed the irony - and it was definitely there, within that single post.

For the rest of it....just what the ***?

Stop putting orange soda in our mouths, David Blaine.

 

[Ren]

Voted Glenn

If anything this poll just says how sad we've been at WR since Irvin

 

[iceberg]

Congratulations, I have no idea what is going on here. I didn't say you were a hypocrite (although that post in a vacuum suggests it). I just observed the irony - and it was definitely there, within that single post.

For the rest of it....just what the ***?

Stop putting orange soda in our mouths, David Blaine.

you've called me a hypocrite several times, but no - not this one. didn't say you did. just explained why i don't see the irony you see. if you see it, have fun w/it.

i don't care. : )

 

[theogt]

it's a "cowboys" poll, as i take it. not an overall career poll.

if you talk who in the end is a better WR, sure. owens.

if you're talking who's been better for the cowboys, i go glenn.

i can see where some would go owens there too and that's fine. what's anally boring are those who simply can't stand it when "their boy" isn't the love child of all for whatever reason they pull out of their wa-ha-ha.

But you realize that the only reason Glenn has been better for the Cowboys is because of his longevity with the team, correct? It has nothing to do with him being a better WR.

In that case, how is it at all worthwhile to compare 1 year to 4 years of production?

What we can say that is worthwhile is that 2006 was close to being Terry's best year as a Cowboy and it still wasn't as good as Terrell's, who arguably had a down year because of the hand injury.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Glenn had more impact last year given fewer opportunities.

No he didn't. TO had more catches, TDs, first downs, and yards by which all are standards at a receivers production.

 

[Doomsday101]

But you realize that the only reason Glenn has been better for the Cowboys is because of his longevity with the team, correct? It has nothing to do with him being a better WR.

In that case, how is it at all worthwhile to compare 1 year to 4 years of production?

What we can say that is worthwhile is that 2006 was Terry's best year as a Cowboy and it still wasn't as good as Terrell's.

If the question was who has had the best single season since Irvin retired then it would be Owens. I took the question as being more than just 1 year of play and in that case Glenn has been the most consistent WR who has come up with many big plays for the Cowboys since being here.

 

[Idgit]

..... I hear Viagra is like money for old people. I'll give that a shot.....

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