Better Career - Tyron vs Watt

[Havic]

Gonna go with Tyron. Watt will have the shorter more impactful career, specifically his first 5 years, but he has been on the downside because of injuries. Tyron will still be playing for a few years imo and at a high level.

 

[KJJ]

I am too young to have watched LT really play, so for me Watt is the most dominant player I've ever seen.

I still think Peak Watt was better than Peak Donald.

It’s closed between Watt and Aaron Donald, but I would go with Watt. The only issue with JJ Watt was all the injuries and missed games. He probably would’ve won another DPOY or two had it not been for all the injuries.

 

[Nova]

How many OLinemen win OPOY?
- Answer: Zero

How many pass rusher win DPOY?
- Answer: More than 50%...

Man that's a really fair point.

My completely non-scientific way of looking at it...

Tyron Smith's pass rushing equivalent is probably DeMarcus Ware, while JJ Watt's LT equivalent is Joe Thomas or Jonathan Ogden

 

[Nova]

nah... Strahan was better than Both guys(Watt and Donald). He was dominant for a long time, carried his teams at times.

I was never one of those guys who disliked Strahan. He was always too likeable for me and I respected the hell out of him.

But for me, I've got him lumped in with guys like Ware, Jared Allen, Freeney, Derrick Thomas

 

[Nova]

It’s closed between Watt and Aaron Donald, but I would go with Watt. The only issue with JJ Watt was all the injuries and missed games. He probably would’ve won another DPOY or two had it not been for all the injuries.

Yeah it's not a huge difference. Honestly, my perception of Ddonald is probably lowered because I'd just watched Watt dominate in a similar fashion from arguably a tougher position.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Tyron will likely make the Hall of Fame but it’s not a slam dunk. A recent article gave his chances of making the Hall of Fame at 90%.

That is a complete joke. Tyron is a slam dunk for the HOF. No question.

Geez what's next, The President isn't a HOFer?

 

[xwalker]

The reason no one on the OL wins OPOY is they don’t impact the game like a skill position player, which is why they’re not ranked ahead of skill position players. When you look at the all-time greatest players list, you’re going to have to go way down the list before you come to your first player on the OL. Players like JJ Watt and Aaron Donald have won so many DPOY awards because they’re game changers who’ve contributed to a lot of wins.

Wrong.

When Erik Williams became the starting RT, it completely changed the Cowboys offense.

The #1 reason they lost the 94 season NFC championship was because EW was out due to the car wreck.

John Madden said that EW was one of the best players that he had ever seen at any position.

 

[Rayman70]

I was never one of those guys who disliked Strahan. He was always too likeable for me and I respected the hell out of him.

But for me, I've got him lumped in with guys like Ware, Jared Allen, Freeney, Derrick Thomas

Agree

 

[stilltheguru]

Tyrone is as overrated as Darren Woodson and Witten on here

 

[beware_d-ware]

I think when it comes down to it, Watt was better.

Tyron was great, but I couldn't say he was generational. Trent Williams, Joe Thomas, and Jason Peters were all peers and all playing on the same level. (FWIW, I think all four belong in Canton, easy).

From 2012-2015, JJ Watt was doing things we've never seen before. The gold standard for 3-4 DEs before him was Richard Seymour, who had 57 sacks in his 11 season career. Watt put up 51 sacks just from 2012-14. While demolishing the run, and while swatting down passes like no lineman had. He was on a different level, not just from any D lineman in the NFL, but from any D lineman we'd ever watched. He won 3 DPOYs in 4 years.

If anything, Watt's a little overshadowed because Aaron Donald jumped in almost as soon as he'd left off, and also started doing stuff we had never seen a DL do before. I think when it comes down to it, Aaron Donald will be the greatest DT of all time. But for a four-year stretch, Watt was on that GOAT level.

Tyron's been awesome, but even your most diehard Cowboys fan wouldn't call him the GOAT. He's just not in that discussion. But when you're talking greatest interior linemen ever, Watt's 2012-20125 is in that discussion.

In the end, I don't really care that the Cowboys passed on Watt. We drafted a guaranteed Hall of Famer, and arguably the best LT in Cowboys history. I'm not going to go all sour grapes about that. We crushed that pick. It's like complaining that your 400 foot home run could've been 410 with a different bat.

 

[RonnieT24]

It’s not age with Tyron it’s the injuries.

Williams gets hurt and misses games too doesn't he? By my count he's missed 16 games in the last 5 seasons. If Tyron can get to where he only misses 3-4 games a year would that be okay with folks? I don't see anybody complaining about Williams missing that many..

 

[RonnieT24]

Watt plays a higher profile position, but I think Tyron is better at what he does...or at least he was better.

Yeah Watt may have burned brighter at his peak, but I feel like Tyron's peak lasted longer. Until the neck thing started to really bother him he was maybe the most dominant LT in the game. Guys literally quit trying to beat him and just took to flailing trying to draw a flag. Both are/were Hall of Fame type players though.. No debating that.

 

[Runwildboys]

That is a complete joke. Tyron is a slam dunk for the HOF. No question.

Geez what's next, The President isn't a HOFer?

Don't forget, he's a Cowboy!

 

[cnuball21]

When Watt was healthy and in his prime he was arguably the best player in football. He was doing what Donald is now doing.

Tyron is going to be a HOfr too so we didn’t whiff on the pick but if you’re asking me to choose knowing they’d both stay healthy I’d pick Watt.

 

[erod]

I don’t think Tyron will be around much longer he can’t stay healthy. No way will he make it 3 to 5 more years. Watt will go down as the greater player. He’s won 3 defensive player of the year awards. He’s a slam dunk first ballot Hall of Famer. I feel pretty confident Tyron will get in the Hall of Fame as well, but may not on the first ballot.

Watt has been hurt more than Tyron.

And Tyron was definitely the better player. Best tackle in Cowboys history by a large margin.

 

[erod]

When Watt was healthy and in his prime he was arguably the best player in football. He was doing what Donald is now doing.

Tyron is going to be a HOfr too so we didn’t whiff on the pick but if you’re asking me to choose knowing they’d both stay healthy I’d pick Watt.

Tyron is arguably the best left tackle in NFL history. Definitely the best in Cowboys history.

He went years without giving up sacks, and mowed people in the run game.

Watt was great, but not as great as Tyron.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Who is remembered as the greater player: Anthony Munoz or Reggie White?

 

[Fmart322]

You really can't compare the 2 players.
When a DL makes a play, the TV announcers make a fuss over it.
When an OL makes a play, nothing is ever said.

 

[RonnieT24]

Tyron is arguably the best left tackle in NFL history. Definitely the best in Cowboys history.

He went years without giving up sacks, and mowed people in the run game.

Watt was great, but not as great as Tyron.

Yeah.. when it's all said and done I think Tyron will have had the better career. If he can put together 2-3 more years of reasonably high level play I don't even think it will be that close. Watt had an amazing 5 year stint as the best pass rusher in football.. But that's all it was.. My lasting memory of him will always be that time the Texans tried to put him over Ron Leary because they thought Leary being the lesser "name player" meant he would be an easy mark. Then Leary proceeded to absolutely dominate him and even pancake Watt a couple of times throughout the game until they moved him back to the other side.. LOL!

 

[RS12]

Watt has been hurt more than Tyron.

Not according to Pro Football reference. Watt has played in 149 games to Tyron's 146.