Better Career - Tyron vs Watt

[RonnieT24]

Tyron has missed 45 games and Watt has missed 44 games with injuries so it’s been pretty even. Watt has clearly been the more dominant player. Not only has he won three DPOY awards but he’s the only player in NFL history to record two 20 plus sack seasons. It’s hard comparing them because they play two completely different positions but Watt has been one of the greatest defensive game changers in NFL history. On Talkin Cowboys a few years ago they debated JJ Watt versus Tyron Smith. Everyone on the show said if the Cowboys had it to do all over again they would’ve taken Watt over Smith because he’s been a generational player. You won’t find an all-time player ranking anywhere that has Tyron Smith ranked a head of JJ Watt. Although Tyron has been a great player he’s not even the greatest player we’ve drafted on the OL the past couple of decades. It’s been Zach Martin.

No offense but Martin plays the easier position of the two.. Even he would tell you that. And like I said, Watt shined brighter at his peak because of the position he plays.. but that should in no way motivate people to minimize Tyron's greatness. And unless he just decides to retire.. Tyron's story is not yet done being written. Tyron was considered one of the best in the game even as recent as last season. He was named to the Pro Bowl despite missing 6 games.. Watt has not had that honor since 2018. Though it's not likely it's certainly possible that Tyron puts together 3-4 more years of high level play. Seems like Watt isn't going to be doing that.

 

[CWR]

They both got drafted the sane year. Tyron’s young enough to make pro bowls for 3 -5 more years. Watt fell off sooner too. Tyron’s still elite when healthy. Who had the better career?

Not only that, but we loved Watt pre draft. If we didn't pick Tyron, Watt was our guy. At least that was the talk leading up to that draft.

 

[KJJ]

No offense but Martin plays the easier position of the two.. Even he would tell you that. And like I said, Watt shined brighter at his peak because of the position he plays.. but that should in no way motivate people to minimize Tyron's greatness. And unless he just decides to retire.. Tyron's story is not yet done being written. Tyron was considered one of the best in the game even as recent as last season. He was named to the Pro Bowl despite missing 6 games.. Watt has not had that honor since 2018. Though it's not likely it's certainly possible that Tyron puts together 3-4 more years of high level play. Seems like Watt isn't going to be doing that.

Not going to waste anymore time arguing it. The facts are that Zack Martin is a slam dunk 1st ballot Hall of Fame player. He will go down as a greater player on our OL than Tyron Smith. I’ve already made it very clear where I think JJ Watt stands.

 

[KJJ]

Lol, it's not debatable that Tyron had been better. He's played virtually perfect seasons multiple times.

You and a few others think Tyron has been better. Go find someone who gets paid to talk football around the NFL who says Tyron has been better than JJ. Watt. Tyron only played four complete seasons while JJ Watt played seven complete seasons. Tyron has been a great player but has had his problems with penalties.

 

[T-RO]

There is a big difference between:
A pro bowler
and
Defensive Player of the year

Watt was DPOY ***three times***

A o-lineman simply can't impact the game like an edge player who wreaks utter havoc.

 

[tyke1doe]

And stopping the best pass rusher from getting to the passer.

Nobody was ever better at that than Tyron.

I don't know if I would say nobody has ever been better than Tyron, but Tyron was great. Not knocking him. I'm just partial to the pass rusher.

 

[Rayman70]

All the rankings have JJ Watt ahead of Tyron Smith. Even some who cover the Cowboys said had the team had to do it all over again they would have likely selected JJ Watt over Tyron, because Watt has been a generational player. Our defense is what’s killed us in the playoffs every year. Our lack of a pass rush is why Aaron Rodgers has dissected us in the playoffs. JJ Watt has been a greater player than Demarcus Ware. Had he accomplished in Dallas what he did with the Texans he would have gone down as the greatest player on our DL in franchise history.

I like the guy, but I like his brother even better. The Steelers DE/LB

 

[Rayman70]

All the rankings have JJ Watt ahead of Tyron Smith. Even some who cover the Cowboys said had the team had to do it all over again they would have likely selected JJ Watt over Tyron, because Watt has been a generational player. Our defense is what’s killed us in the playoffs every year. Our lack of a pass rush is why Aaron Rodgers has dissected us in the playoffs. JJ Watt has been a greater player than Demarcus Ware. Had he accomplished in Dallas what he did with the Texans he would have gone down as the greatest player on our DL in franchise history.

Aaron Rodgers just makes me ill every time we face him. I smell the fear the team has when we play GB. GB is in our heads. Until we beat him/GB and the Bucs as well...this will be the case.

 

[phildadon86]

Smith gave up something like 3 pressures and a sack against the Eagles.

His second time playing RT in the last decade. Cut him some slack

 

[KJJ]

I like the guy, but I like his brother even better. The Steelers DE/LB

His brother is great, but everyone lives in the moment and right now TJ is at the top of his game. He still hasn’t accomplished as much as JJ. TJ still have a ways to go to make it to the Hall of Fame.

 

[Rayman70]

Selecting Tyron was the right call in 2011. I wouldn't change a thing. I think the Texans did an equally nice call getting their guy Watt. It was the right fit for each team at the right time. Hindsight is always 2020 but its unfair to compare the 2 guys. They fit what each team wanted to become back then. We wanted a LT/RT that could maul and be the anchor, and they needed a guy that could be an enforcer/leader on their dline. Each checked the right boxes. If Tyron has a great finish to the year. I think he stays another 2 years here. Watt is just wrecked physically and its time. Kudos to him for knowing when its time to say when. Poor guy just cant do it anymore. Its been years since he's been dominant and healthy. Seems like lightyears.

 

[Rayman70]

His second time playing RT in the last decade. Cut him some slack

I think he's been better than expected at RT . He is still gifted and has his stuff.

 

[Rayman70]

His brother is great, but everyone lives in the moment and right now TJ is at the top of his game. He still hasn’t accomplished as much as JJ. TJ still have a ways to go to make it to the Hall of Fame.

If TJ can stay healthy, which is debatable last 2 years, the sky is the limit. Like JJ, he has been struggling 2 stay healthy. I think he has 3-4 years left.

 

[IceStar-D7]

Not even close Tyron...

 

[Rayman70]

Tyron has missed 45 games and Watt has missed 44 games with injuries so it’s been pretty even. Watt has clearly been the more dominant player. Not only has he won three DPOY awards but he’s the only player in NFL history to record two 20 plus sack seasons. It’s hard comparing them because they play two completely different positions but Watt has been one of the greatest defensive game changers in NFL history. On Talkin Cowboys a few years ago they debated JJ Watt versus Tyron Smith. Everyone on the show said if the Cowboys had it to do all over again they would’ve taken Watt over Smith because he’s been a generational player. You won’t find an all-time player ranking anywhere that has Tyron Smith ranked a head of JJ Watt. Although Tyron has been a great player he’s not even the greatest player we’ve drafted on the OL the past couple of decades. It’s been Zach Martin.

Clearly? Hmm..no they both had a span where they been dominant equally. I give that edge to TS.

 

[tyke1doe]

All the rankings have JJ Watt ahead of Tyron Smith. Even some who cover the Cowboys said had the team had to do it all over again they would have likely selected JJ Watt over Tyron, because Watt has been a generational player. Our defense is what’s killed us in the playoffs every year. Our lack of a pass rush is why Aaron Rodgers has dissected us in the playoffs. JJ Watt has been a greater player than Demarcus Ware. Had he accomplished in Dallas what he did with the Texans he would have gone down as the greatest player on our DL in franchise history.

^This^
We couldn't get to a one-legged Aaron Rodgers. The most pathetic waste of a pass rush I've ever scene. Don't tell me if we had Watts we wouldn't have been in the NFC Championship Game TWICE!

 

[Ekspozed]

Both all time greats. Pass rusher is flashier than LT and his 3 dmvp will be remembered more.

Both will be in the hof and it's just a matter of preference if you like pass blocker or pass rusher more.

 

[KJJ]

^This^
We couldn't get to a one-legged Aaron Rodgers. The most pathetic waste of a pass rush I've ever scene. Don't tell me if we had Watts we wouldn't have been in the NFC Championship Game TWICE!

Right before that season we moved on from Demarcus Ware which killed our pass rush. We only had 28 sacks in 2014. Aaron Rodgers had a field day in the second half against us on one leg.

 

[KJJ]

Clearly? Hmm..no they both had a span where they been dominant equally. I give that edge to TS.

TJ hasn’t been as dominant he has one DPOY award and one 20+ sack season. However, he’s still playing at a high-level and may accomplish more.

 

[KJJ]

If TJ can stay healthy, which is debatable last 2 years, the sky is the limit. Like JJ, he has been struggling 2 stay healthy. I think he has 3-4 years left.

injuries have started to bite TJ.