Better To Bite The Bullet Than Extend Dak

[Qcard]

Herbert gets a pass. He's saddled with Kellen Moore as an OC. Which, as we've been told for the past few years, is an obstacle no QB should be expected to overcome.

Or is that only a valid excuse to provide cover for Dak? I'm never sure how this works.

Wrong...Herbert got Annointed!!

Dak Haters oil connoisseurs

 

[starfan1]

One offensive lineman, running back away from being totally balanced. Imagine if we actually had a running game.

I think we’re more than that but that’s just me. I think we only have 2 lineman that worth a tinkers damn and reliable Tyler smith and zack and I believe we are gonna start to see Zack go south . Tyron and his back issues make him a liability when it counts. Tyler B and Steele are meh

Then the defense is a whole other issue .

Last year they were solid at run blocking this year not even close. I don’t get it

 

[Streifenkarl]

Not once have I heard a viable succession plan for moving on from Dak. I guess cutting him loose, going 4-13 and hoping to get a good player in the 2025 draft is the plan? LOL.

We went 4-1 with Cooper. Beating up the little guys can be done with a cheaper QB. And against the contenders Dak often hasn't made the difference he should have.

So the plan would be go 9-8 or something and still make the play offs more often than not and just get the same result in post season (one and out or two and out) and try to find the next franchise QB.

Now one thing that would be harder without a good name under center is keeping the talent we already have. But I say to hell with that, trade Micah, CD and whatever guys get us 1st and 2nd round picks and rebuild. Start with the QB and o line. The way it seems that way we wouldn't get a Superbowl win any later than with the current personnel.

(Now of course there's some hyperbole in all of that and I'm not completely serious. But to be honest, if we'll see another quick exit out of the playoffs in January, that's the way I'd go.)

 

[Qcard]

We went 4-1 with Cooper. Beating up the little guys can be done with a cheaper QB. And against the contenders Dak often hasn't made the difference he should have.

So the plan would be go 9-8 or something and still make the play offs more often than not and just get the same result in post season (one and out or two and out) and try to find the next franchise QB.

Now one thing that would be harder without a good name under center is keeping the talent we already have. But I say to hell with that, trade Micah, CD and whatever guys get us 1st and 2nd round picks and rebuild. Start with the QB and o line. The way it seems that way we wouldn't get a Superbowl win any later than with the current personnel.

(Now of course there's some hyperbole in all of that and I'm not completely serious. But to be honest, if we'll see another quick exit out of the playoffs in January, that's the way I'd go.)

Dak Haters are experts at changing narratives....Real Cowboy Fans remember Cooper Rush's 17 pts per game, weak legs and noodle arm after 3 starts..

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Dak will be extended, there’s is no debate. Jerry said he was trying to do it last offseason, has mentioned during the season they’ll make it a priority this offseason, and at times Dak has been mentioned with MVP candidates. It’s effectively already done, they just need to agree on numbers.

It will be between 56-62m$ a year (depending on the order of QB extensions this offseason). His agent would get blackballed for not resetting the QB market as every other agent has. And based on his previous behavior, Dak will plausible go for a 3 or 4 year deal so he can reset the market again in 2027

 

[Qcard]

Dak will be extended, there’s is no debate. Jerry said he was trying to do it last offseason, has mentioned during the season they’ll make it a priority this offseason, and at times Dak has been mentioned with MVP candidates. It’s effectively already done, they just need to agree on numbers.

It will be between 56-62m$ a year (depending on the order of QB extensions this offseason). His agent would get blackballed for not resetting the QB market as every other agent has. And based on his previous behavior, Dak will plausible go for a 3 or 4 year deal so he can reset the market again in 2027

Agreed...the Teams are raking in $$$ with the TV deals.
The deal won't set the market for long. The next crop of QB talent and NIL is going to position the NFL as the premiere Sports entertainment in the World..games in Brazil, Canada and expanding Europe...Shotany just got $70M per season Market Value for Elite athletes is unbelievable

 

[nightrain]

We went 4-1 with Cooper. Beating up the little guys can be done with a cheaper QB. And against the contenders Dak often hasn't made the difference he should have.

So the plan would be go 9-8 or something and still make the play offs more often than not and just get the same result in post season (one and out or two and out) and try to find the next franchise QB.

Now one thing that would be harder without a good name under center is keeping the talent we already have. But I say to hell with that, trade Micah, CD and whatever guys get us 1st and 2nd round picks and rebuild. Start with the QB and o line. The way it seems that way we wouldn't get a Superbowl win any later than with the current personnel.

(Now of course there's some hyperbole in all of that and I'm not completely serious. But to be honest, if we'll see another quick exit out of the playoffs in January, that's the way I'd go.)

The best case is to draft a QB and get 4-5 years out of him on the cheap. If he is good, you typically pay the man. How many top 10 teams don't have a QB who is either getting paid or on his way to a big contract? You want to be a consistent winner, you need a good QB.

 

[diamonddelts]

I wish they could just sign him for a decent salary but Dak tries to drain every dollar he can.


Hes playing phenomenal ball this year and it’s still not enough and paying him all the money in the world doesn’t help the TEAMS cause.

You have got to get him to not get every last dime he can or it’s just going to be more of this.

We need a new left tackle too. Maybe a right one as well.

I’m not getting rid of Tyron either. I’d love to keep him if he wants to play but the cowboys Tackles are trash.

Steele is a shell and the Left side is pro bowl level one week and turnstile the next.

Don’t even get me started on run blocking.

Dak is not the GM. Balancing the team's budget is not part of his job description.

 

[BoysForLife]

Dan Campbell is an errand boy, a company man! incapable of independent thinking?...just Capping for Jerry Jones pet aka Dak Prescott...

Dak Haters are Worthless....Get off my Block Sir....Go fund your undercover Coop Troope somewhere else....I know whom are really Boys For Life

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/sho...gers-larry-fitzgerald-thinks-so.508374/page-6


Dak Haters are hypocrites
Emojis all day Ma'am!!!

I'm not sure what your point is. Not sure if you know what it is either.
So I said Aaron Rodgers is not company man (he isn't), and somehow that translates into a comparison to the generic babble that every coach spews about the opposition on a weekly basis in their press conference?

For pete's sake, Mike McCarthy actually said (with a straight face) that he expects Detroit to be our "toughest test" of the season so far.
After being curb stomped by SF 42-10, do you really think McCarthy believes Detroit is the game he expects to be the toughest test? Or is this just the type of stuff that everyone says to avoid bulletin board material and distracting controversies heading into a game?

Keep the emojis coming, it's basically the only thing you've got at this point.

 

[BoysForLife]

Wrong...Herbert got Annointed!!

Dak Haters oil connoisseurs

Again, you're clearly (imo purposely) missing the point of the post.
I'm not defending Herbert. I'm saying, for years folks like you proclaimed that no QB could overcome the idiocy of Kellen Moore.
But now that someone else is dealing with him, he's a "failed QB who is hoping for a wild card spot" in your eyes.

Moore had to go because he was so bad, he was ruining poor Dakky poo.
But now, Moore has no excuses in your eyes, right?

you want it both ways, and at the end of the day, you'll do anything to prop up your boy. I admire your tenacity. Your integrity, on the other hand, is a different story.

 

[Flamma]

I wouldn’t advocate letting him go now. I’d just let this contract run out and then move on.

I was one of the people against signing him in the first place. I thought they should have transition tagged him. No franchise tag. Teams would make offers under a transition tag because if the Cowboys don't match, the team making the offer gets the player and doesn't have to give anything up in return. We would truly have seen Dak's value. Which I don't believe would have been 40M a year.

But right now we have a good team and I'd like that to play out while we have a good QB. We may still not win anything, but a good team with no QB are called the Jets. I don't want to be the Jets. I want to be as good as the 49ers. They don't have a great QB either, he is just good. We're not that far away.

Besides that. Letting Dak play out his contract means he's a 60M cap hit next year. That might not be an option. Parsons and Lamb are up. Should we not pay them? They don't have to give Dak a long extension. Maybe 2-3 years.

 

[Established1971]

They should create a zone for these threads or a Dak Zone for those who just come here to bash him and complain about him.

and another one for those who constantly complain about those who complain, skirting the rules and calling them nasty names

 

[Flamma]

So some fans wants the Cowboys to intentionally tank in hopes that they luck out and hit on a elite level QB in the draft. What happens if this strategy doesn't work out and the Cowboys get someone closer to Zach Wilson rather than Mahomes. Do they keep on trying this strategy every few seasons until they hope that they hit on a QB in the draft? Hasn't worked out for the Jets yet which is why they went after Rodgers hoping he has a few prime years left to get them into the playoffs/Super Bowl.

It's fun drafting high and imagining hitting on an elite QB. But more often than not it isn't going to happen. You're either going to get trash, or a QB similar to Dak. Tua, Herbert, Lawrence, do they make anyone Jealous? That's not even including the dozen or so QBs picked high that suck to high heaven.

 

[DallasEast]

Apologies. My inner Star Trek nerd made me do it.

 

[mardwin]

I dunno.

I’d really kinda like to see the mental gymnastics Jerry pulls trying to justify a Dak extension after a Wild Card loss.

Same rhetoric "we like our guys" and "he's a great leader".

 

[Creeper]

If they do extend Dak, be prepared for the Cowboys to be mediocre the rest of your life.
Dak hasn't made the Cowboys better since he has been here; what makes you think he will now?

The Cowboys have made the playoffs 5 of the 8 seasons the Cowboys have had Dak. Included in those 8 season is the lost season when Dak broke his ankle and they finished 6-10 with backups.
It also includes seasons when the Cowboys had one of the worst defenses in the league.

If you want to see Dak gone, the misery I am talking about is repeated losing seasons, no playoffs, and we become the Washington Commanders.

Is it that hard to go back to the years after Aikman retired and remember what the Cowboys QB situation looked like back then?

I mean if fans are not satisfied with 2 consecutive 12-5 seasons, plus playoffs and another season of the playoffs this year then how will fans survive going back to the years of 6-10 season we used to have consistently?

Maybe Dak is not the best QB in the league but right now he is better than the phantom super stars some people think are out there waiting for Jerry to call.

 

[morat1959]

The same people sniffing Daks jock strap are the same people that would sniff Gary Hogboom or Steve Pelluer' jock strap.
How dare you criticize the starting Cowboys QB.


We absolutely know what Dak is. He's been here for 8 years. Throw the dice and get a QB in the first round. You don't hit home runs when you don't swing the bat.

You nailed it!

 

[BoysForLife]

The same people sniffing Daks jock strap are the same people that would sniff Gary Hogboom or Steve Pelluer' jock strap.
How dare you criticize the starting Cowboys QB.


We absolutely know what Dak is. He's been here for 8 years. Throw the dice and get a QB in the first round. You don't hit home runs when you don't swing the bat.

Exactly. Add Kevin Sweeney to that list too lol

They'd question your fanhood for not sniffing as well. Jerry absolutely adores fans like that. They'll swallow anything you feed them and pay top dollar for it

 

[DogFace]

With quarterback salaries expected to reach $60 million, the Cowboys are in no real rush to extend Dak.
He's never won anything, and hasn't proven that he can show up in big games. Instead, he has struggled every time the Cowboys needed him to be the reason they were able to get to the next level.
With a $59 million cap hit coming, the Cowboys will be better off to ride it out and demand that Dak earn his next extension.
He hasn't yet.

Nobody is saying don't re-sign Dak; just don't extend him.
Make him earn his next contract.
It's amazing how nervous Dak fans get at the prospect of him having to earn it.

Dude you’ve been saying this nonsense for years because you can’t grasp how valuable it is to have a good starting QB. Now that he’s an MVP candidate (agian) you’ve revised it to say he needs to earn it?

The problem with that is it’s stupid. Just like only posting on your team’s site when they lose is stupid. Don’t be stupid.
Actually, only post when they lose. Less is more.

 

[DogFace]

Can you geniuses really not grasp how valuable a good QB is? At this point you are aggressively acting football dumb.

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2023-24-nfl-mvp-odds-and-favorites