Better To Bite The Bullet Than Extend Dak

Hadenough

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Because number one quarterbacks taken first, work out so well
So let's play it safe and pay Dak 60 mil a year and let the rest of the team lose good players. We can fill in around Dak with draft picks. But just remember Dak needs everything around him perfect. So you have to draft Oline and Dline and hope the guys can be instant starters. And hope they have an easy schedule so they can make the playoffs.
 

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Dak has thrown the most TDs in the league and is 0.02 pts away from leading the league in QBR. What do people want from a QB? Tyron goes out, Steele isn’t playing well, but somehow Dak is supposed to overcome everything. Same for Parsons.

stop expecting a HOFer at every position. The roster construction is the problem. Overpaid staters who too often aren’t on the field leaving subpar backups behind them. If no one got injured or misbehaved in football we’d be world beaters, but Jones has never accepted that you can’t win the same way we did before the salary cap, or he doesn’t care because this is the way to make the most money.

but Dak and Parsons are not the reason we have problems.
Maybe if we had more money to pay free agent tackles that would help. So Dak’s contract is up at the end of the year…are you going to advocate he be paid top-dollar or are you going to keep your same energy about the inadequate tackles that hurt Dak? Because if you’re saying Dak needs all-pro tackles to be good…then…why pay him top dollar? Can’t have it both ways.
 

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The Cowboys have made the playoffs 5 of the 8 seasons the Cowboys have had Dak. Included in those 8 season is the lost season when Dak broke his ankle and they finished 6-10 with backups.
It also includes seasons when the Cowboys had one of the worst defenses in the league.

If you want to see Dak gone, the misery I am talking about is repeated losing seasons, no playoffs, and we become the Washington Commanders.

Is it that hard to go back to the years after Aikman retired and remember what the Cowboys QB situation looked like back then?

I mean if fans are not satisfied with 2 consecutive 12-5 seasons, plus playoffs and another season of the playoffs this year then how will fans survive going back to the years of 6-10 season we used to have consistently?

Maybe Dak is not the best QB in the league but right now he is better than the phantom super stars some people think are out there waiting for Jerry to call.
Dak has played in the NFC East and benefits from easy schedules every year.
But when he has faced tough teams he has let the Cowboys down.
Every time.
 

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Maybe if we had more money to pay free agent tackles that would help. So Dak’s contract is up at the end of the year…are you going to advocate he be paid top-dollar or are you going to keep your same energy about the inadequate tackles that hurt Dak? Because if you’re saying Dak needs all-pro tackles to be good…then…why pay him top dollar? Can’t have it both ways.
Get ready for the "you don't understand the salary cap" argument.

That'll be the next step in this progression to try and justify the bloated deal he's going to get
 

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Dude you’ve been saying this nonsense for years because you can’t grasp how valuable it is to have a good starting QB. Now that he’s an MVP candidate (agian) you’ve revised it to say he needs to earn it?

The problem with that is it’s stupid. Just like only posting on your team’s site when they lose is stupid. Don’t be stupid.
Actually, only post when they lose. Less is more.
I am saying that Dak is under contract and there is NO reason to rush to make him the highest paid player in NFL history because he hasn't earned it.
Let him play out his contract and then make a decision.
That scares his fans, but he does need to show he won't dissappear when the pressure is on.
So far, he has- every time.
 

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Maybe if we had more money to pay free agent tackles that would help. So Dak’s contract is up at the end of the year…are you going to advocate he be paid top-dollar or are you going to keep your same energy about the inadequate tackles that hurt Dak? Because if you’re saying Dak needs all-pro tackles to be good…then…why pay him top dollar? Can’t have it both ways.
Some people conveniently miss the fact that Dak is already good without All-Pro tackles.
 

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and another one for those who constantly complain about those who complain, skirting the rules and calling them nasty names
I don’t single out individual fans and call them nasty names. That’s not my MO. Feel free to provide a post where I called someone a nasty name. You won’t find one.:thumbup:
 

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Dak Haters are experts at changing narratives....Real Cowboy Fans remember Cooper Rush's 17 pts per game, weak legs and noodle arm after 3 starts..

:lmao2: :lmao2:

If all you understood was Dak hate then I'm not too keen on discussing this with you any further. There was no Dak hate at all in my post. Just saying that a way less talented QB (you even support my point here lol) also won 5 games with us, even against not so bad teams. Point is, for what we have achieved over the last 8 years you don't need a highly paid QB. Goes for any team. It's all cool if he takes us far into the play offs this year. But if not we shouldn't continue doing what we have been doing.
 
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With quarterback salaries expected to reach $60 million, the Cowboys are in no real rush to extend Dak.
He's never won anything, and hasn't proven that he can show up in big games. Instead, he has struggled every time the Cowboys needed him to be the reason they were able to get to the next level.
With a $59 million cap hit coming, the Cowboys will be better off to ride it out and demand that Dak earn his next extension.
He hasn't yet.
To date, Prescot has made a lot of money with his current salary and if he were to be extended you can forget about any deep run into the playoffs in the next few years because he would be taking down a huge chunk of the CAP SPACE and the Cowboys would look more like the Vikings than a bonafide SB contender. I believe if the Cowboys want to get to a SB anytime soon Prescot has to take a pay cut or release OR sign and trade him for high draft picks. This is why Tom Brady was so respected when he played, his contracts allowed his HC and GM to obtain missing pieces to their championship teams, whereas Prescot is currently thinking about himself and nothing else..............
 

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You're not moving to the #1 overall pick with a late first rounder and Micah Parsons. It would cost more. Besides, the Bears just paid an edge rusher - they'd want multiple picks. How many are you willing to give up to roll the dice on drafting a first round QB? It's not like they all hit - ask the Jets, and others.

I'm not crazy about breaking the bank for Dak but the alternatives are not as simple as some make them out to be. And don't get me started on the Trey Lance fantasies...
The Cowboys are never going to be bad enough to get the number one overall pick. And even if some might not be keen on paying Dak, I don't see how trading away all of the Cowboys best players is suppose to put the next Cowboys QB in the best position to succeed. In the hypotheical of the Cowboys drafting the top QB prospect. Because then if that QB comes in and struggles or the Cowboys aren't winning as many games with him, then the same ones wanting the front office to trade away all of the best players for that QB, would be upset and claim the front office isn't putting enough pieces around the top pick QB for him to succeed.

It's either going to be that or some placing unrealistic expectations on this QB thinking that because he isn't Dak that he should be able to singlehandedly take the Cowboys further with "less" of a roster, just because these fans view him as an improvement because they are approaching this with an "Any QB would be better than Dak at this point and would make the Cowboys better." mentality. Therefore will turn on that QB too eventually if he isn't able to live up to the expectations of those who believe that an first round draft pick at QB automatically solves all of the Cowboys postseason woes.

Then if you ask why first round picks like Herbert hasn't been able to find much postseason success in their careers yet, they'll say it's because he doesn't have enough help yet. But then just assume the Cowboys can get rid of our best players and be able to rebuild just fine around the first round draft pick QB and be right back in the playoff hunt on as a regular basis as we are with Dak.

Some believe that it's a lost cause to hold out hope that this team can finally get over the hump with Dak, when it maybe even a bigger lost cause to hope for Trey Lance to catch on fire at the QB position, with a change of scenry. When he couldn't do it with an organization and team who is ran better front office and roster wise than the Cowboys are.
 

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Dak has played in the NFC East and benefits from easy schedules every year.
But when he has faced tough teams he has let the Cowboys down.
Every time.
He just destroyed the 11-4 Eagles a few weeks ago. But the real question is, how do you think they would do against those teams with Cooper Rush? or Quincy Carter? Or Ryan Leaf, Chad Hutchinson?

Dak is not the reason the Cowboys haven't been back to the Super Bowl in 28 years. He has only been here 8 years and he has taken them to the playoff 5 of those 8 years. The problems in Dallas go a lot deeper than the QB who happens to be in the top 10 in the league.
 

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I would love for Jerry to give these Dak haters exactly what they want and not resign Dak. I guarantee you after 2-3 years of Trey Lance or whichever other QB, they will be wishing we had Dak back.

Good thing Jerry and Company are not as ignorant. Just hope Dak is willing to give the Cowboys a little discount on his next upcoming extension.
Not business. Personal.
 

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Lance Fields. Bryce Young. Daniel Jones. Robert Griffin the 3rd. List goes on. Careful what you wish for, all I’m espousing.
 

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He just destroyed the 11-4 Eagles a few weeks ago.
Even if I hadn't seen a second of the game and just visited this forum to find out the results, I would be certain that the cowboys won the minute the Dak faithful start talking about it in terms of what "he" did.

Had the eagles won the game in question, we'd be discussing it in terms of how the "team" collapsed.

For all the discussions on the main page about if the game is rigged, this is the most rigged game of all

Daks adherents make sure he gets all the credit for wins and absolutely zero responsibility for losses.

Dak and his agent should be sending you all Christmas cards:muttley:
 

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If all you understood was Dak hate then I'm not too keen on discussing this with you any further. There was no Dak hate at all in my post. Just saying that a way less talented QB (you even support my point here lol) also won 5 games with us, even against not so bad teams. Point is, for what we have achieved over the last 8 years you don't need a highly paid QB. Goes for any team. It's all cool if he takes us far into the play offs this year. But if not we shouldn't continue doing what we have been doing.
I understood your post!! We are good...

I just tag all my posts with Dak Hater epithas...real Cowboy fans are inoculated:laugh:
 

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Again, you're clearly (imo purposely) missing the point of the post.
I'm not defending Herbert. I'm saying, for years folks like you proclaimed that no QB could overcome the idiocy of Kellen Moore.
But now that someone else is dealing with him, he's a "failed QB who is hoping for a wild card spot" in your eyes.

Moore had to go because he was so bad, he was ruining poor Dakky poo.
But now, Moore has no excuses in your eyes, right?

you want it both ways, and at the end of the day, you'll do anything to prop up your boy. I admire your tenacity. Your integrity, on the other hand, is a different story.
Yada yada....both things can be true.....an inept Kellen Moore met an overrated Justin Herbert....There are Zero inconsistency in my logic of either.

Even Herbert would tell you this was a failed Season....if his brains haven't been Joy stickkkkied yet :lmao: :lmao:

Ps.it appears even Cooper Rush carried Joy Stick :laugh: :laugh:
 

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With quarterback salaries expected to reach $60 million, the Cowboys are in no real rush to extend Dak.
He's never won anything, and hasn't proven that he can show up in big games. Instead, he has struggled every time the Cowboys needed him to be the reason they were able to get to the next level.
With a $59 million cap hit coming, the Cowboys will be better off to ride it out and demand that Dak earn his next extension.
He hasn't yet.
:hammer: . .....another playoff flame out = walking papers.

It's coming.....:popcorn:
 

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With quarterback salaries expected to reach $60 million, the Cowboys are in no real rush to extend Dak.
He's never won anything, and hasn't proven that he can show up in big games. Instead, he has struggled every time the Cowboys needed him to be the reason they were able to get to the next level.
With a $59 million cap hit coming, the Cowboys will be better off to ride it out and demand that Dak earn his next extension.
He hasn't yet.
Extension incoming
 
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