Big 12 2014 Season

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yeah, an an AD who has hired Scott Drew, Kim Mulkey and Art Briles is absolute crap... Again P5 teams don't want to play Baylor, they want to play Kansas.

They want to play WVU, Texas, Oklahoma, ISU, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas Sate...and yes...Kansas.

Seems like they want to play all of the Big Twelve this year EXCEPT for Baylor.

Seriously...that argument won't work and you know it.

 

[Aikbach]

They want to play WVU, Texas, Oklahoma, ISU, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas Sate...and yes...Kansas.

Seems like they want to play all of the Big Twelve this year EXCEPT for Baylor.

Seriously...that argument won't work and you know it.

The scheds are made 5 years out, and you know it, attempts at last minute changes have been declined, and yet still has a strength of schedule like alabama. Way to make a mountain out of a mole hill, your "they" is apparently not based on the reality of what's transpired. Ask Notre Dame.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The scheds are made 5 years out, and you know it, attempts at last minute changes have been declined, and yet still has a strength of schedule like alabama. Way to make a mountain out of a mole hill, your "they" is apparently not based on the reality of what's transpired. Ask Notre Dame.

It is AMAZING that every school in the Big 12 has an out of conference game this year with a P5 Conference EXCEPT Baylor. Yet your lame excuse earlier was, they all want to play Kansas. Which was proven that they want to play all of the teams in the Big 12 except for baylor.

Quit making excuses for your schools lack of ability to schedule schools from P5 Conferences.

You have ONE team in the next 5-6 years in Duke although you play them twice.

But I was wrong about it just being baylor in the future as there are some pretty pathetic attempts at better OOC scheduling with P5 conferences with some of the teams.

Here are the teams that have made a REAL effort at getting good OOC games with P5 Conferences.

WVU plays the following in the near future... Maryland (3x), BYU, Virginia Tech (3x), Tennessee, NC State (2x) and Penn State (2x)

Oklahoma plays the following in the near future... Tennessee (2x), Ohio State(2x), UCLA (x2), Nebraska (2x), Michigan (2x) and LSU (3x).

Texas plays the following in the near future... Notre Dame (4x), California (2x), USC (2x), Maryland (2x), Ohio State (2x) and Arkansas

TCU plays the following in the near future... Minnesota, Ohio State (2x), Arkansas (2x) and California (2x)

Iowa State plays the following in the near future Iowa (9x)

Here are the ones who have not...

Texas Tech in the next few years Arkansas and Arizona State (2x)

Kansas State in the next few years Mississippi State (2x)

Oklahoma state in the next few years Pittsburg (2x)...play boise state 2x but they are not part of p5 conference right now


Kansas in the next few years... Rutgers (x2) and Illinois (2x) Hmm...I thought someone said everyone wants to play Kansas, does not seem to be the case.

And it could be argued with the weakest of all OOC schedules vs P5 conferences...

Baylor in the next few years... Duke (2x)

 

[Aikbach]

It is AMAZING that every school in the Big 12 has an out of conference game this year with a P5 Conference EXCEPT Baylor. Yet your lame excuse earlier was, they all want to play Kansas. Which was proven that they want to play all of the teams in the Big 12 except for baylor.

Quit making excuses for your schools lack of ability to schedule schools from P5 Conferences.

You have ONE team in the next 5-6 years in Duke although you play them twice.

But I was wrong about it just being baylor in the future as there are some pretty pathetic attempts at better OOC scheduling with P5 conferences with some of the teams.

Here are the teams that have made a REAL effort at getting good OOC games with P5 Conferences.

WVU plays the following in the near future... Maryland (3x), BYU, Virginia Tech (3x), Tennessee, NC State (2x) and Penn State (2x)

Oklahoma plays the following in the near future... Tennessee (2x), Ohio State(2x), UCLA (x2), Nebraska (2x) and a future with LSU in the works

Texas plays the following in the near future... Notre Dame (4x), California (2x), USC (2x), Maryland (2x), Ohio State (2x) and Arkansas

TCU plays the following in the near future... Minnesota, Ohio State (2x), Arkansas (2x) and California (2x)

Here are the ones who have not...

Texas Tech in the next few years Arkansas and Arizona State (2x)

Kansas State in the next few years Mississippi State (2x)

Oklahoma state in the next few years Pittsburg (2x)...play boise state 2x but they are not part of p5 conference right now


Kansas in the next few years... Rutgers (x2) and Illinois (2x) Hmm...I thought someone said everyone wants to play Kansas, does not seem to be the case.

And it could be argued with the weakest of all OOC schedules vs P5 conferences...

Baylor in the next few years... Duke (2x)

K bra, sorry you're butt hurt, you won't be making the playoff anyhow.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

K bra, sorry you're butt hurt, you won't be making the playoff anyhow.

I am not your bro or your bra and I am not butt hurt.

Your schedule is weak, your up coming schedule is weak, you have a lame excuse that nobody wants to play you and that they only want to play Kansas.

You were wrong that they only want to play Kansas...maybe you should man up and admit that.

I never claimed that WVU will make the playoffs so I don't know where that adolescent taunt came from unless you are the one who is butt hurt.

But since you said we will not make the playoffs...I will say that Baylor will not make the playoffs because if any other P5 conference has the same record as Baylor chances are they will get in before baylor because they have a stronger OOC opponent.

Baylor's schedule this year is flat out WEAK compared to WVU, Texas, Oklahoma...oh hell, the rest of the Big 12 and you know it.

Your out of conference games the next few years are weak or weaker than the rest of the Big 12.

If your program is so great, maybe you need to get better out of conference opponents and prove it instead of hiding behind the idea that everyone is afraid to play you and wants to play Kansas instead...when that is false.

 

[Aikbach]

I am not your bro or your bra and I am not butt hurt.

Your schedule is weak, your up coming schedule is weak, you have a lame excuse that nobody wants to play you and that they only want to play Kansas.

You were wrong that they only want to play Kansas...maybe you should man up and admit that.

I never claimed that WVU will make the playoffs so I don't know where that adolescent taunt came from unless you are the one who is butt hurt.

But since you said we will not make the playoffs...I will say that Baylor will not make the playoffs because if any other P5 conference has the same record as Baylor chances are they will get in before baylor because they have a stronger OOC opponent.

Baylor's schedule this year is flat out WEAK compared to WVU, Texas, Oklahoma...oh hell, the rest of the Big 12 and you know it.

Your out of conference games the next few years are weak or weaker than the rest of the Big 12.

If your program is so great, maybe you need to get better out of conference opponents and prove it instead of hiding behind the idea that everyone is afraid to play you and wants to play Kansas instead...when that is false.

The moment you lead with the asinine assertion Baylor should replace one of the absolute best AD's in the country your subsequent ranting became incredulous.

Asininely you believe you know better than he and what transpires in his office amongst other AD's, if you're offended by receiving a flippant tone back, then check your own, you're quite good at holding a double standard about that, and are easily taken aback when you get bristly posts back after initiating some.

You don't like Baylor's schedule, and i don't give a ****, you don't like why the AD has explained it doesn't suit your personal taste, and I don't care about your selective digestion of that information either.

Meanwhile Baylor is a national title contender, regardless of your opinion of their schedule, one that is identical in strength to the Bama team your WVU team has already lost to.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The moment you lead with the asinine assertion Baylor should replace one of the absolute best AD's in the country your subsequent ranting became incredulous.

Asininely you believe you know better than he and what transpires in his office amongst other AD's, if you're offended by receiving a flippant tone back, then check your own, you're quite good at holding a double standard about that, and are easily taken aback when you get bristly posts back after initiating some.

You don't like Baylor's schedule, and i don't give a ****, you don't like why the AD has explained it doesn't suit your personal taste, and I don't care about your selective digestion of that information either.

Meanwhile Baylor is a national title contender, regardless of your opinion of their schedule, one that is identical in strength to the Bama team your WVU team has already lost to.

As good as your AD has done in other aspects he has done a weak job of scheduling OOC games with P5 conference games. This is not opinion it is FACT. You can argue all you want about it, can deflect about it but it will not change it. Furthermore Alabama done something that Baylor did not and will not do this year... They played an OOC game against a P5 team.

Your claim that p5 teams want to only play Kansas is wrong. If. It was right than Kansas would have more games than WVU, Texas, Oklahoma and TCU.

You are in some state of denial that nobody wants to play Baylor because they are too good while ignoring that Oklahoma has four times as many scheduled at the least.

So your AD could be the best in all of football except when it comes to getting P5 (quality) OOC games scheduled because in that area he is weak and that is a fact no matter how much you hate to admit it.

 

[Aikbach]

As good as your AD has done in other aspects he has done a weak job of scheduling OOC games with P5 conference games. This is not opinion it is FACT. You can argue all you want about it, can deflect about it but it will not change it. Furthermore Alabama done something that Baylor did not and will not do this year... They played an OOC game against a P5 team.

Your claim that p5 teams want to only play Kansas is wrong. If. It was right than Kansas would have more games than WVU, Texas, Oklahoma and TCU.

You are in some state of denial that nobody wants to play Baylor because they are too good while ignoring that Oklahoma has four times as many scheduled at the least.

So your AD could be the best in all of football except when it comes to getting P5 (quality) OOC games scheduled because in that area he is weak and that is a fact no matter how much you hate to admit it.

Or you could just be making a mountain out of a mole hill because there's no benefit to change anything right now (not to mention P5's aren't lining up to play), 9 P5 games in conference are played. Only reason the SEC is mandating a P5 ooc is because they only play 8 P5 games in conference, the typical cupcakes remain otherwise.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Or you could just be making a mountain out of a mole hill because there's no benefit to change anything right now (not to mention P5's aren't lining up to play), 9 P5 games in conference are played. Only reason the SEC is mandating a P5 ooc is because they only play 8 P5 games in conference, the typical cupcakes remain otherwise.

That logic might apply to the big 12 as well.

Read what Big 12 Commish is trying to say in this article http://newsok.com/big-12-football-no-change-in-baylor-schedule/article/5006317

It is plain as the nose on your face what he is saying. They want the Big 12 teams to start scheduling more P5 teams for the out of conference games.

So it is not just the SEC that is going with this idea.

Also I calculated the number of OOC games with P5 Conf teams in the future for the Big 12 teams.
There are 56 games in the near future. Only 2 of those are with Baylor.

Three teams have double digit games scheduled (Texas-13, Oklahoma-13 and WVU-10)
Three teams have only 2 scheduled (Kansas State, Oklahoma State and Baylor).

That total averages out to 5.6 OOC games with a P5 Conference team...Baylor is well below the mark.

I will also remind you that even with those others that are tied with Baylor for the least amount of future games....Kansas State THIS year plays Auburn and Oklahoma State played THIS year Florida State. Baylor plays nobody in an OOC game from P5.


Edit UPDATE:

I screwed up earlier as I had accidentally forgotten to put Iowa State on the lists.
They play Iowa a total of 9 times in the future (at this point of scheduling).

So that would be a total of 65 games scheduled with P5 teams in the future for Big 12 teams for an average of 6.5 P5 OOC teams the Big 12 will play per team.

Which means Baylor now is three times below the average of the the Conference.

 

[jterrell]

The scheds are made 5 years out, and you know it, attempts at last minute changes have been declined, and yet still has a strength of schedule like alabama. Way to make a mountain out of a mole hill, your "they" is apparently not based on the reality of what's transpired. Ask Notre Dame.

http://www.ourdailybears.com/baylor...n-beefing-up-baylors-non-conference-schedules

Try relying on reality instead of a pre-conceived argument and then making up facts to fit.

ND has the hardest schedule int he country this year. They didn't drop the Baylor series because they were scared.
They dropped it because they essentially joined a league.

Baylor has decided that a Big 12 winner gets into the playoff regardless.
Many schedules have been altered and adjusted within a the past year or so.
Baylor has not chosen to do so with anyone but cupcakes.

P5 teams are looking to play each other. That's actually a way to freeze everyone else out.


Baylor??
http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...all-schedules-are-officially-insensitive.html

2014
SMU, Northwestern State, at Buffalo

2015
at SMU, Lamar, Rice

2016
Northwestern State, SMU, at Rice

2017
UTSA, Duke

2018
at UTSA, at Duke

2019
Incarnate Word, UTSA, at Rice

TBA
Liberty

Good God - Liberty? Baylor had to pay Liberty to make sure it could beat up on little Turner Gill again?

The counter point to this crap non-conference schedule is by season's end the fans don't care who you beat but that their favorite team has eight or nine wins and a comfy, cool postseason spot.
These schedules ensure by the time conference play begins, Baylor will have paid millions to give its football team every reasonable shot at a winning record.

It will also have successfuly bored the hell out of its fan base by playing host to a slew of crap non-conference games that will have fans fleeing to their cars, or boats, by halftime to drink and watch real games. But it would be nice if Baylor threw its fans a bone every so often by playing somebody in September.


Read more here: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...are-officially-insensitive.html#storylink=cpy

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

http://www.ourdailybears.com/baylor...n-beefing-up-baylors-non-conference-schedules

Try relying on reality instead of a pre-conceived argument and then making up facts to fit.

ND has the hardest schedule int he country this year. They didn't drop the Baylor series because they were scared.
They dropped it because they essentially joined a league.

Baylor has decided that a Big 12 winner gets into the playoff regardless.
Many schedules have been altered and adjusted within a the past year or so.
Baylor has not chosen to do so with anyone but cupcakes.

P5 teams are looking to play each other. That's actually a way to freeze everyone else out.


Baylor??
http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...all-schedules-are-officially-insensitive.html

I like that Aikbach is such a staunch diehard supporter of his team but at the same time it gets annoying when his blind homerism makes other blind homers look like they have 20/20 vision.

Personally I really respect what Art Briles has done for the football team. I also respect what their AD has done for their school. I also love to watch Baylor football games as they are always entertaining and one of the wildest football games I have ever seen was the first meeting of Baylor vs WVU game.

With all of that said. I do find it sad that they have not really did much with their scheduling vs P5 teams and is at the bottom if not at the very bottom of the Big 12 when it comes to scheduling P5 teams for their ooc schedule and no amount of defending it will take it away.

I think it hurts the Big 12 conference if they win the Big 12 Championship because if other teams from other conferences have the same record but have a better OOC schedule they will be picked. Right now Baylor has the weakest schedule of any Big 12 team and that is not debatable. Sadly they are good enough not to have to resort to scheduling all of these cup cake out of conference teams from non Power 5 conferences.

I understand it helps those lower teams get some money for their schools...but come on man.

Now with baylor out of the way...some of the other big 12 teams need to step up their out of conference games as well.

If WVU can schedule 10 games, Iowa State 9 games (even if it is instate rival) and TCU can schedule 7 games (at this point), there is no excuse for Texas tech, Oklahoma state, Kansas State, Kansas, Baylor to step up their out of conference schedules.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I like that Aikbach is such a staunch diehard supporter of his team but at the same time it gets annoying when his blind homerism makes other blind homers look like they have 20/20 vision.

Personally I really respect what Art Briles has done for the football team. I also respect what their AD has done for their school. I also love to watch Baylor football games as they are always entertaining and one of the wildest football games I have ever seen was the first meeting of Baylor vs WVU game.

With all of that said. I do find it sad that they have not really did much with their scheduling vs P5 teams and is at the bottom if not at the very bottom of the Big 12 when it comes to scheduling P5 teams for their ooc schedule and no amount of defending it will take it away.

I think it hurts the Big 12 conference if they win the Big 12 Championship because if other teams from other conferences have the same record but have a better OOC schedule they will be picked. Right now Baylor has the weakest schedule of any Big 12 team and that is not debatable. Sadly they are good enough not to have to resort to scheduling all of these cup cake out of conference teams from non Power 5 conferences.

I understand it helps those lower teams get some money for their schools...but come on man.

Now with baylor out of the way...some of the other big 12 teams need to step up their out of conference games as well.

If WVU can schedule 10 games, Iowa State 9 games (even if it is instate rival) and TCU can schedule 7 games (at this point), there is no excuse for Texas tech, Oklahoma state, Kansas State, Kansas, Baylor to step up their out of conference schedules.

Just a little swerve here...the Mountaineers look like they are shaping up to have a nice season after all..

They are chippy. Play over the heads maybe but they have been better than advertised. You must be pleased. A little?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Just a little swerve here...the Mountaineers look like they are shaping up to have a nice season after all..

They are chippy. Play over the heads maybe but they have been better than advertised. You must be pleased. A little?

The defense is a little better than I expected but it was so bad the last couple of years that it is a little slanted IMO.
We have still given up 33 and 37 points to teams not named Townson and those two teams do not have the high flying type of offenses that the Big 12 teams will have.

However I am pleased that the QB and WR issues are looking MUCH improved compared to last year. I also think we have a pretty talented corp or RBs going right now.

I think we finish better than we did last year but still somewhere near the middle or below of the big 12.

And who knows. Maybe we throw an upset victory against a good Big 12 team like we did last year vs Oklahoma State.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

The defense is a little better than I expected but it was so bad the last couple of years that it is a little slanted IMO.
We have still given up 33 and 37 points to teams not named Townson and those two teams do not have the high flying type of offenses that the Big 12 teams will have.

However I am pleased that the QB and WR issues are looking MUCH improved compared to last year. I also think we have a pretty talented corp or RBs going right now.

I think we finish better than we did last year but still somewhere near the middle or below of the big 12.

And who knows. Maybe we throw an upset victory against a good Big 12 team like we did last year vs Oklahoma State.

I've been impressed by them so far. They're fun to watch.

 

[jterrell]

I like that Aikbach is such a staunch diehard supporter of his team but at the same time it gets annoying when his blind homerism makes other blind homers look like they have 20/20 vision.

Personally I really respect what Art Briles has done for the football team. I also respect what their AD has done for their school. I also love to watch Baylor football games as they are always entertaining and one of the wildest football games I have ever seen was the first meeting of Baylor vs WVU game.

With all of that said. I do find it sad that they have not really did much with their scheduling vs P5 teams and is at the bottom if not at the very bottom of the Big 12 when it comes to scheduling P5 teams for their ooc schedule and no amount of defending it will take it away.

I think it hurts the Big 12 conference if they win the Big 12 Championship because if other teams from other conferences have the same record but have a better OOC schedule they will be picked. Right now Baylor has the weakest schedule of any Big 12 team and that is not debatable. Sadly they are good enough not to have to resort to scheduling all of these cup cake out of conference teams from non Power 5 conferences.

I understand it helps those lower teams get some money for their schools...but come on man.

Now with baylor out of the way...some of the other big 12 teams need to step up their out of conference games as well.

If WVU can schedule 10 games, Iowa State 9 games (even if it is instate rival) and TCU can schedule 7 games (at this point), there is no excuse for Texas tech, Oklahoma state, Kansas State, Kansas, Baylor to step up their out of conference schedules.

Yup. Baylor is rolling and is mightily impressive.
I hate they aren't playing someone of note and getting the Big 12 a meaningful win.
When you play no one in OOC then lose a Bowl game it is hard to argue you've done all that much, really.

If the teams play at least 1 P5 non-conf game I won't complain. 9 conf and 1 p5 is 10 real games before the bowl/playoffs.
But you can't go through the entire non-conf playing no one.

Kansas needs to just reboot that program.
They actually hired Weis over Malzahn... rofl.

 

[jterrell]

I've been impressed by them so far. They're fun to watch.

fun to watch because they are playing teams that don't suck too.
easy to root for the big 12 team and especially easy to root for them.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yup. Baylor is rolling and is mightily impressive.
I hate they aren't playing someone of note and getting the Big 12 a meaningful win.
When you play no one in OOC then lose a Bowl game it is hard to argue you've done all that much, really.

If the teams play at least 1 P5 non-conf game I won't complain. 9 conf and 1 p5 is 10 real games before the bowl/playoffs.
But you can't go through the entire non-conf playing no one.

Kansas needs to just reboot that program.
They actually hired Weis over Malzahn... rofl.

I did not know they passed on Malzahn

 

[BoysFan4ever]

fun to watch because they are playing teams that don't suck too.
easy to root for the big 12 team and especially easy to root for them.

I went to Bama so I root for them but was impressed by WVU that first game. I love college ball. I actually prefer it over the NFL.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

grrrrr One, if not the, of our best CBs.

West Virginia cornerback Daryl Worley has been suspended indefinitely for violating team rules,Mountaineers head coach Dana Holgorsen announced on Monday night.

http://www.foxsports.com/southwest/story/west-virginia-suspends-top-cb-worley-indefinitely-091514

 

[BoysFan4ever]

grrrrr One, if not the, of our best CBs.

West Virginia cornerback Daryl Worley has been suspended indefinitely for violating team rules,Mountaineers head coach Dana Holgorsen announced on Monday night.

http://www.foxsports.com/southwest/story/west-virginia-suspends-top-cb-worley-indefinitely-091514

Ouch. But you have to let these dingbat kids know who's boss.