Big 12 2014 Season

[bodi]

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...all-schedules-are-officially-insensitive.html

now that's a good article

As good as Baylor has become - it went to the Fiesta Bowl last season and won the Big 12 - this is a slap in the face not of any college football pollster but its season-ticket holders who pay real money to watch the Bears play real football games in a soon-to-be very-real-football stadium. As much as I like Art Briles, his non-conference scheduling shtick is getting very old, and now embarrassing.

2019
Incarnate Word, UTSA, at Rice

TBA
Liberty

Good God - Liberty? Baylor had to pay Liberty to make sure it could beat up on little Turner Gill again?

The counter point to this crap non-conference schedule is by season's end the fans don't care who you beat but that their favorite team has eight or nine wins and a comfy, cool postseason spot.
These schedules ensure by the time conference play begins, Baylor will have paid millions to give its football team every reasonable shot at a winning record.

It will also have successfuly bored the hell out of its fan base by playing host to a slew of crap non-conference games that will have fans fleeing to their cars, or boats, by halftime to drink and watch real games. But it would be nice if Baylor threw its fans a bone every so often by playing somebody in September.

got to admit this is to Funny

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Incarnate Word?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

K-State playing Auburn really tough, leading 7-3 as I type this.

I bet Auburn's O gets it rolling soon, but still pretty good. Snyder is one incredible coach.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I always hope Auburn goes winless!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Big 12 not doing so well vs SEC this year. WVU and Kansas State beat themselves and Tech got killed.

 

[big dog cowboy]

. WVU and Kansas State beat themselves and Tech got killed.

Smelled like death warmed over around here today. I always thought the Cowboys were the masters of beating themselves.

 

[DFWJC]

Go Pirates

 

[Rogah]

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...all-schedules-are-officially-insensitive.html

now that's a good article

As good as Baylor has become - it went to the Fiesta Bowl last season and won the Big 12 - this is a slap in the face not of any college football pollster but its season-ticket holders who pay real money to watch the Bears play real football games in a soon-to-be very-real-football stadium. As much as I like Art Briles, his non-conference scheduling shtick is getting very old, and now embarrassing.

2019
Incarnate Word, UTSA, at Rice

TBA
Liberty

Good God - Liberty? Baylor had to pay Liberty to make sure it could beat up on little Turner Gill again?

I hope more than anything that if Michigan State finishes the season with 1-loss, they go to the playoffs. They should be considered the best of any 1-loss team since their loss was an out of conference game against a top ranked opponent.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Just a little swerve here...the Mountaineers look like they are shaping up to have a nice season after all..

They are chippy. Play over the heads maybe but they have been better than advertised. You must be pleased. A little?

I am painfully old-fashioned, I know that.

I went to the WVU - OU game last night. They are better than WVU, but we put up a good fight.

But being the old-fashioned guy that I am, I left the stadium wishing we were the team that rushed for 300 yards, and not the team that threw the ball ~45 times.

I loved Perine, .. 242 yards rushing and 4 TD's. He is a beast.

They pounded the ball the whole second half.

Our special teams coach (DeForest) is terrible, .. so our special teams will kill us all season I am afraid. They were horrific against MD last week, and last night gave up a momentum changing 100 yd KO return for a TD just before halftime.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I am painfully old-fashioned, I know that.

I went to the WVU - OU game last night. They are better than WVU, but we put up a good fight.

But being the old-fashioned guy that I am, I left the stadium wishing we were the team that rushed for 300 yards, and not the team that threw the ball ~45 times.

I loved Perine, .. 242 yards rushing and 4 TD's. He is a beast.

They pounded the ball the whole second half.

Our special teams coach (DeForest) is terrible, .. so our special teams will kill us all season I am afraid. They were horrific against MD last week, and last night gave up a momentum changing 100 yd KO return for a TD just before halftime.

I didn't get to watch. Flying! I think WVU has a pretty good team.

 

[jterrell]

I am painfully old-fashioned, I know that.

I went to the WVU - OU game last night. They are better than WVU, but we put up a good fight.

But being the old-fashioned guy that I am, I left the stadium wishing we were the team that rushed for 300 yards, and not the team that threw the ball ~45 times.

I loved Perine, .. 242 yards rushing and 4 TD's. He is a beast.

They pounded the ball the whole second half.

Our special teams coach (DeForest) is terrible, .. so our special teams will kill us all season I am afraid. They were horrific against MD last week, and last night gave up a momentum changing 100 yd KO return for a TD just before halftime.

If you want to win in the Big 12 you won't do so running for 300 yards at WVA. It just is what it is.
Teams not named OU or Texas aren't recruiting those high 4 or 5 star type OL across the front.

While I grew up on that too, reality is spread concepts are there to level the playing field and give lesser talent a chance to win.
WVA has a really good mix and they should have a really good season.
They've lost twice to top 5 teams... IMHO possibly the best two teams in college football.

OU is a team that manhandled Bama in a bowl game last year.

 

[WV Cowboy]

If you want to win in the Big 12 you won't do so running for 300 yards at WVA. It just is what it is.
Teams not named OU or Texas aren't recruiting those high 4 or 5 star type OL across the front.

While I grew up on that too, reality is spread concepts are there to level the playing field and give lesser talent a chance to win.
WVA has a really good mix and they should have a really good season.
They've lost twice to top 5 teams... IMHO possibly the best two teams in college football.

OU is a team that manhandled Bama in a bowl game last year.

Both of OU's lines were HUGE!! Mammoth men! They wore us down.

 

[jterrell]

Both of OU's lines were HUGE!! Mammoth men! They wore us down.

I know
Tech finished second on Savage and it seems was in the top 4 for about half those dudes.
Of the 10 guys listed on the OU depth chart all but two are 300 or more pounds.
Almost all those kids are from Texas.

 

[Aikbach]

Been busy with work and a way, but just got back from TCU victory, wild and fun one in Waco.

But seeming the Big 12 is the deepest and most competitive conference to date, and Baylor is the only remaining undefeated player in it, I'd say Baylor's scheduling works out just fine.

Ask Oregon how their ooc sched has helped them, or Bama.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...laim-as-college-footballs-deepest-conference/

 

[jterrell]

Been busy with work and a way, but just got back from TCU victory, wild and fun one in Waco.

But seeming the Big 12 is the deepest and most competitive conference to date, and Baylor is the only remaining undefeated player in it, I'd say Baylor's scheduling works out just fine.

Ask Oregon how their ooc sched has helped them, or Bama.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...laim-as-college-footballs-deepest-conference/

Baylor's issue will only be if they lose not if they win out.
Undefeated P5 teams are going to go to the playoffs 999 times out of 1000.

To this point in the season Baylor has one win worth speaking of...
It took you a month to respond because Baylor played absolutely no one until Saturday.
They collected all of a 3 point win a shootout that could have easily gone either way.

If Baylor wins out they'll be fine.
If they don't they'll be in trouble.
Virtually every P5 school with 1 loss would have a better argument than Baylor because Baylor's schedule sucked so severely outside the conference.

While Baylor is good right now they should be at least able to play games that get put on national TV, not shifted off to the 4th or 5th best match up amongst Big 12 teams weekly.

If Baylor is good enough to go undefeated in the Big 12 then they could have easily beaten one of the 50 other P5 teams out there.
So they really can't win with this scheduling.
They either shirk their duty to the fan base and conference or they cost themselves seeding.
Either way it is unique to Baylor and just bad.

It is really easy for the entire conference to pull for WVA this weekend. They played hard games and fought in them earning respect for the conference.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I have to pull for WVU (not WVA) as I am a WVU homer.

However Even though some baylor fans are delusional (I read a college board) on many things. They are the best chance to win the Big 12 right now so if we lose to them (a fair chance we will with our defense or it will be another shootout)...I hope they go on to be undefeated so a Big 12 team can make it in.

However if they do lose a game and Oklahoma wins out the rest of the year....It is Oklahoma for the bid over Baylor any day of the week IMO.

 

[jterrell]

I have to pull for WVU (not WVA) as I am a WVU homer.

However Even though some baylor fans are delusional (I read a college board) on many things. They are the best chance to win the Big 12 right now so if we lose to them (a fair chance we will with our defense or it will be another shootout)...I hope they go on to be undefeated so a Big 12 team can make it in.

However if they do lose a game and Oklahoma wins out the rest of the year....It is Oklahoma for the bid over Baylor any day of the week IMO.

We are still 2 weeks away from the first set of CFB playoff rankings but as I stated in another thread any 1 loss Big 12 that wins the conf is about a 99% lock to get in unless that team is Baylor.
Baylor is alone as having a terrible non-conf with no one in the top 75 schools on it.
Any other Big 12 1 loss program may be a 4 seed but they'd get in. (And probably be a #2 seed)
Currently the Big 12 has 5 teams in the top 15. --same as the SEC but with only 10 teams instead of 14.
The conference is very well respected.

Baylor has beaten 1 team in the top 40. Having to still play OKST, OU, KST, WVU is a lot different than their first half of the season with laughingstock teams.

Sagarin still ranks OU higher than BAY even with the 1 OU loss. Baylor's got the 67th hardest strength of schedule to this point by his metrics....

 

[jterrell]

We are still 2 weeks away from the first set of CFB playoff rankings but as I stated in another thread any 1 loss Big 12 that wins the conf is about a 99% lock to get in unless that team is Baylor.
Baylor is alone as having a terrible non-conf with no one in the top 75 schools on it.
Any other Big 12 1 loss program may be a 4 seed but they'd get in. (And probably be a #2 seed)
Currently the Big 12 has 5 teams in the top 15. --same as the SEC but with only 10 teams instead of 14.
The conference is very well respected.

Baylor has beaten 1 team in the top 40. Having to still play OKST, OU, KST, WVU is a lot different than their first half of the season with laughingstock teams.

Sagarin still ranks OU higher than BAY even with the 1 OU loss. Baylor's got the 67th hardest strength of schedule to this point by his metrics....

As an added note one of the best scenarios for the Big 12 is to have two teams finish with 1 loss.
The CFB likely takes only the one with the hardest SOS but it is very possible both could get in if the Pac 12 and Big 10 both have 2 loss champs.

It will be interesting to see if they go merely with the 4 highest rated conf champs or they take 2nd place teams in favor of down conferences.
1 conf will the left out but it could be more than 1.

 

[Aikbach]

Baylor's issue will only be if they lose not if they win out.
Undefeated P5 teams are going to go to the playoffs 999 times out of 1000.

To this point in the season Baylor has one win worth speaking of...
It took you a month to respond because Baylor played absolutely no one until Saturday.
They collected all of a 3 point win a shootout that could have easily gone either way.

If Baylor wins out they'll be fine.
If they don't they'll be in trouble.
Virtually every P5 school with 1 loss would have a better argument than Baylor because Baylor's schedule sucked so severely outside the conference.

While Baylor is good right now they should be at least able to play games that get put on national TV, not shifted off to the 4th or 5th best match up amongst Big 12 teams weekly.

If Baylor is good enough to go undefeated in the Big 12 then they could have easily beaten one of the 50 other P5 teams out there.
So they really can't win with this scheduling.
They either shirk their duty to the fan base and conference or they cost themselves seeding.
Either way it is unique to Baylor and just bad.

It is really easy for the entire conference to pull for WVA this weekend. They played hard games and fought in them earning respect for the conference.

Dude you're a pompous poster with nothing to ever back up what you say. I've been gone because I have a life and don't give a crap what a poster like you that is seldom right has to opine about.

You're someone who thinks Kliff Kingsbury is the greatest recruiter in the state, and have been patently wrong with every single prediction you make.

You swore OU would run away with the conference and Texas Tech was a contender, you also say patently false and prejudice things about Baylor on a regular basis, swearing they were not going to win the Big 12 last year, time to simply shut up and sit down.

 

[Aikbach]

I have to pull for WVU (not WVA) as I am a WVU homer.

However Even though some baylor fans are delusional (I read a college board) on many things. They are the best chance to win the Big 12 right now so if we lose to them (a fair chance we will with our defense or it will be another shootout)...I hope they go on to be undefeated so a Big 12 team can make it in.

However if they do lose a game and Oklahoma wins out the rest of the year....It is Oklahoma for the bid over Baylor any day of the week IMO.

WVU is a good team, they should be ranked, and quite honestly winning in Morgantown against WVU is more daunting than winning in Norman this year.