Big 12 2014 Season

[Future]

The only way I see a Big 12 making it is if one of the following does not happen:
1) Michigan State finishes with one loss
2) FSU runs the table
3) Oregon finishes with one loss

If all of those things happen, there's no way I see a Big 12 team making it, even if they finish with one loss.

I think, when all is said and done, any Big 12 team with one loss should get in over Oregon with one loss.

I don't see how you'd be able to make a case for Oregon over, say, TCU.

 

[Rogah]

I think, when all is said and done, any Big 12 team with one loss should get in over Oregon with one loss.

I don't see how you'd be able to make a case for Oregon over, say, TCU.

I don't see how you make the case for any 1-loss Big 12 team (especially TCU) over a 1-loss Oregon team. The conferences are roughly equal, but that 1-loss Oregon team had the added difficulty of winning a conference championship game, not to mention possibly being the only team to beat Michigan State. (Of course, having said that, since Oregon's schedule is so much tougher, they have a better chance of losing a 2nd game)

Who is TCU's best non conference victory? Minnesota? They will have 5 losses by season end.

 

[Future]

I don't see how you make the case for any 1-loss Big 12 team (especially TCU) over a 1-loss Oregon team. The conferences are roughly equal, but that 1-loss Oregon team had the added difficulty of winning a conference championship game, not to mention possibly being the only team to beat Michigan State. (Of course, having said that, since Oregon's schedule is so much tougher, they have a better chance of losing a 2nd game)

Who is TCU's best non conference victory? Minnesota? They will have 5 losses by season end.

Forgot about the conference championship, but there really isn't anybody good in the Pac 12 that would give Oregon a huge boost.

If TCU finishes with just one loss, they'll have beaten West Va., Kansas State, and have just a 3 point loss to Baylor. Other than Mich State...Oregon will have beaten who, UCLA and Arizona State? I just don't think any of those Pac 12 wins are any good and the loss to Arizona is worse than the loss to Baylor.

 

[jterrell]

What is pretty clear from the first CFB rankings is the Big 12 is well respected.
Much more so than by the AP.

Any 1 loss Big 12 team gets in without question except possibly Baylor which is just as I have suggested all thread.

If Oregon wins out they also get in.
1 one Loss TCU/KSU/Oregon(also conf champs) would hold off a 2 loss SEC school. --and its nearing a mathematical impossibility to see more than 1 one loss or less SEC team/s.
After those 3 I doubt that's true.

The key to the rankings is quality wins versus penalty for losses. --you only want to lose to the better sides and want that to be a close loss if it has to happen.

TCU is ranked over Baylor by a good margin and I strongly dislike TCU but agree. It is about TCU having better/more road wins and also losing only to Baylor in a very close game on the road.
While Baylor won the head to head but lost by 14 to WVA and lacks any other notable win at all. 2nd best win is the 40 player UT squad.

From a per conf perspective, the Big 12 just needs one of the teams to make it through with 1 loss.
TCU would be the easiest way in but really any 1 loss team is set.

Right now if we had 2 loss chaos all over the best 2 loss bets are Bama or whoever the 2 loss SEC champ ends up being and Oklahoma.
OU is actually in a good spot because they have had a very tough schedule and 'should' win out.
They've taken two beatings but also have very quality wins.
If the B1G or Pac 12 plus ND all have 2 losses they'll come well after OU's 2nd loss and timing matters.

 

[jterrell]

good read here: http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/...-29?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

excerpted

TCU

Record: 6-1 (3-1 Big 12)
Playoff committee rank: No. 7
Next big obstacle: Nov. 1 at West Virginia
Reason for optimism: Assuming the SEC West starts to knock itself out, TCU is in pretty good shape after the first unveiling of the playoff rankings. Playoff committee chairman Jeff Long said the gap between No. 6 Alabama and No. 7 TCU was a “small” one. The Horned Frogs also have the chance to notch a pair of marquee wins these two next weeks against No. 20 West Virginia and No. 9 Kansas State.
Cause for concern: The Horned Frogs are ranked ahead of every Big Ten team, but not No. 5 Oregon. Assuming the playoff committee ended up with Florida State and two SEC West teams, that final playoff spot could come down to the Ducks and the Horned Frogs, and the Ducks appear to have the slight advantage at the moment. TCU could win out, and still get snubbed if Oregon won out, too.
Who they’ll be rooting for this week: Stanford to knock off Oregon for a third straight year.

Kansas State

Record: 6-1 (4-0)
Playoff committee rank: No. 9
Next big obstacle: Nov. 8 at TCU
Reason for optimism: The Wildcats are ranked higher in the playoff rankings than they are in the polls, which means K-State is getting more respect where it counts. The committee also seems to be valuing quality losses, which is one reason why K-State is ranked seven spots ahead of Ohio State, whose lone loss to Virginia Tech looks worse and worse. With road games at No. 7 TCU, No. 20 West Virginia and No. 13 Baylor still ahead, the Wildcats have as much upside as any team outside the top four.
Cause for concern: At No. 3, Auburn is currently in the playoff. The committee is putting an emphasis on head-to-head, which is the primary reason why Ole Miss got the edge for the fourth spot ahead of Alabama. If the final spot came down to Auburn and K-State, the committee would probably be compelled to favor Auburn, which won in Manhattan, Kansas, last month.
Who they’ll be rooting for this week: Ole Miss to give Auburn its second loss.

Baylor

Record: 6-1 (3-1)
Playoff committee rank: No. 13
Next big obstacle: Nov. 8 at Oklahoma
Reason for optimism: The Bears are ahead of four one-loss teams, including three spots ahead of No. 16 Ohio State. Baylor also has two remaining games against ranked teams, including Oklahoma and No. 9 Kansas State in the regular-season finale. The timing of the K-State game could be significant for Baylor to make a late surge.
Cause for concern: Even if they go 11-1 the Bears are going to need a lot of help. The nonconference schedule is going to weigh them down like an albatross. That’s one significant reason why there are 10 other one-loss teams ranked ahead of them.
Who they’ll be rooting for this week: TCU to take down West Virginia. The Bears have the head-to-head advantage over TCU. They don’t have it over the Mountaineers. The better TCU does the better it looks for Baylor.

 

[Doc50]

Ill be at the TCU - K St game next week.

I'll post a frog's-eye view.

 

[DFWJC]

I think, when all is said and done, any Big 12 team with one loss should get in over Oregon with one loss.

I don't see how you'd be able to make a case for Oregon over, say, TCU.

There are people out there...this is not a joke...that are saying the Pac 12 is the best league this year top to bottom.
I don't buy it, but I've seen it more than once by various national writers.

 

[Doc50]

There are people out there...this is not a joke...that are saying the Pac 12 is the best league this year top to bottom.
I don't buy it, but I've seen it more than once by various national writers.

I've seen that, too.

But I hope they've gradually changed their minds as the season has unfolded. The SOS and performance outside of their league has not been so impressive.

 

[jterrell]

I've seen that, too.

But I hope they've gradually changed their minds as the season has unfolded. The SOS and performance outside of their league has not been so impressive.

Those people are called West Coasters, lol.

We heard last year the Pac 12 was strong then watched only Oregon look like a football team come bowl season.
ASU was supposed to be really good and Tech murdered them. The same Tech that is like struggling to win ANY non-Kansas Big 12 games the last two years.

The Pac 12 is pretty bad.
Oregon can play anyone but they are so scheme reliant.
The other teams are just bad. UCLA/USC are so reliant on a couple players.

 

[jterrell]

my WVA freinds will love this... and all Big 12 guys actually.

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/mad-ch...cle_a33a3bae-636c-11e4-9404-0017a43b2370.html

Saturday night I’m walking to my car at 21st and R Streets (a long way from Memorial Stadium) when I got to thinking about Nebraska football’s sad relationship with the Big Ten.

(I know, I know, this blog is not always the rosiest way to start your Monday morning.)


I’m not talking about road games 1,000 miles away or manufactured trophy games or the league’s crummy national reputation, which Husker fans used to mock but now own. I’m talking about the actual football on the field.

Let’s pretend that Nebraska stayed in the Big 12 and West Virginia never received an invitation. Let’s give NU the Mountaineers’ 2014 home conference schedule. Ready?

Oklahoma

Kansas

Baylor

TCU

Kansas State

I don’t have enough exclamation points at my disposal for that list. I get pumped just thinking about it.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I think TCU wins next week.

 

[jterrell]

I think TCU wins next week.

They have more talent but Snyder has clearly made a deal with the devil.
His coaching is just unnatural.
He does more with less than anyone I've ever seen.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

They have more talent but Snyder has clearly made a deal with the devil.
His coaching is just unnatural.
He does more with less than anyone I've ever seen.

Yea true. He looks like my Grandpa. Score one for the senior citizens of the world. He's great.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Also that coach at TCU is pretty darn good. That is a fairly small school right? He either recruits well or they get the max out of their guys. They come to play.

 

[Doc50]

Also that coach at TCU is pretty darn good. That is a fairly small school right? He either recruits well or they get the max out of their guys. They come to play.

Interesting how TCU has an undergraduate population of about 5,500 and lots of endowment money, just about the same as SMU, but one has developed a successful program, while the other has floundered in even a better metroplex market. Winning is elusive, and there's good evidence that it emanates from the head coach.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Interesting how TCU has an undergraduate population of about 5,500 and lots of endowment money, just about the same as SMU, but one has developed a successful program, while the other has floundered in even a better metroplex market. Winning is elusive, and there's good evidence that it emanates from the head coach.

Yea he's very good. Interesting how when a big program is looking for a coach I never hear his name. Like UT.

I don't read much about them here but that is a good solid team & they usually are good.

 

[Doc50]

Patterson actually was initially in the mix (as was just about every other successful HC) for the UT job, but he's under contract and happy. Can't blame him for wanting to avoid theglasscauldron that is UT, Bama, or others like Florida or Ohio St.

 

[joseephuss]

Baylor is wiping the floor with OU.

 

[TheCoolFan]

OU defense is terrible. Big win for Baylor, they should win out. Texas may blow WVU out...WVU is overrated.

 

[TheCoolFan]

TCU ended WVU's season last week, they look like they've given up completely. TCU/Texas will be a battle...if TCU wants to make it, they will have to earn it