Bill Parcells and Mike McCarthy

[CowboyRoy]

You wrong and off picture as usual. We are past excuse hunting to just satisfy slanted doubts. We already started the season and the stereotypes for change are still unchanged and unobservant as well. We are given here, no picture of football or team achievements but gloom and insult. That encourages little but convienience of glume for venting on a narrow causal base. Not on winning or playing well, but instead complaints for not always being competitive.

If anything puts in question the legion of gloom stance, that is merely insulted away. Out of sight...out of mind, huh?

So you thinks MM offense will suck?

 

[Big_D]

Both are top tier coaches. Jerry will hire a yes man and then at some point become desperate enough to bring in a real coach. They fix the mess, he takes the credit and then repeats “the process”.

 

[Flamma]

If the Cowboys do win a SB with this coach, it will be the first time a coach has won with two different teams. Plenty have reached the SB with two different teams, like 7 or 8. But none won with two different teams.

 

[CCBoy]

So you thinks MM offense will suck?

Give it up...I state what I believe. Play with one's doubts by yourself.

 

[CCBoy]

Both are top tier coaches. Jerry will hire a yes man and then at some point become desperate enough to bring in a real coach. They fix the mess, he takes the credit and then repeats “the process”.

Try to figure out what was stated, yourself. Yes man and whoooptido.

 

[Big_D]

Try to figure out what was stated, yourself. Yes man and whoooptido.

You’re the biggest Jerry apologist here. The guy could truly do no wrong like you haven’t been watching him operate for 30 years.

 

[gtb1943]

Both are top tier coaches. Jerry will hire a yes man and then at some point become desperate enough to bring in a real coach. They fix the mess, he takes the credit and then repeats “the process”.

Yep. Remember his comment about 500 coaches? Some here like the company men try and think it never happened or that he did not mean it.

Jerry Jones wants to win HIS WAY and ONLY HIS WAY.

The company men just say yes sir yes sir three bags full sir

 

[Big_D]

Yep. Remember his comment about 500 coaches? Some here like the company men try and think it never happened or that he did not mean it.

Jerry Jones wants to win HIS WAY and ONLY HIS WAY.

The company men just say yes sir yes sir three bags full sir

Jerry made himself the priority after Johnson.

 

[basel90]

Mike McCarthy is not at the level of bill parcells . Period .

 

[CCBoy]

You’re the biggest Jerry apologist here. The guy could truly do no wrong like you haven’t been watching him operate for 30 years.

I put my pants on just like you do. I'll state how I respect a person and won't alter my opinion that the man has earned.

Jimmy earned through disloyalties of his own, to be ordered to leave.

Take your own short comings and name calling and keep that disrepect to yourself. That is your opinion but when you name call based on a sense of personal entitlement, that is a cheap show of your own.

Don't even comment about me in that manner again...no one said you had to like or agree.

 

[CCBoy]

Give what up? Lol

I was stating that MM’s offense will be a good one and he will be a good play caller.

Not my problem your too dense to figure that out.

Hardly dense...as to your attempting to sneak up on anyone wearing cowboy boots with taps...forget it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Hardly dense...as to your attempting to sneak up on anyone wearing cowboy boots with taps...forget it.

You were wrong. You were dead wrong. You thought I was being critical of the team and it was the exact opposite. I was responding to a guy that didnt believe me that MM's offense was going to be a good one and he would be successful calling the plays.

You made an incorrect assumption then insulted me.

At least be man enough to apologize. Or dont!

 

[Fmart322]

I was posting in a different thread, and I realised something. I found an interesting comparison between Bill Parcells and Mike McCarthy. Both won their most recent Super Bowl about a decade prior to joining the Cowboys with a major rival of the Cowboys. Bill Parcells did it with the Giants in 1990 (hired in 2003 when I was 10), and Mike McCarthy did it in 2010 with the Packers (hired in 2020). Both coaches joined us when it became clear that Jerry was lost and needed a coach to turn around what a previous coaching disaster had done. Parcells turned us around from what Campo did (in fairness, not Campo's fault entirely considering what little he had to work with in his short tenure). Mike McCarthy has turned us around from the Garrett failure. They both changed the mentality of the team. They have both (in Mike's case, his combination with Quinn, has been wonderful) turned the Cowboys into legitimate contenders. The teams were and are poised to be contenders for a very long time.

I don't know how this board was in 2003, as I was about 10 years old at the time. However, I'm curious about the attitude that Parcells had around Cowboys fans. I say this because I think McCarthy is easily the best coach that we have had at HC since Parcells. He's set us up for long term success. We were pleading since Parcells for a proper coach. We have one. Look what he's been able to turn Garrett's team into. I hope Jerry is careful. After Parcells left, this team really should have won at least one Lombardi with what he left us. With what Mike and Dan Quinn have built, this team should win a Lombardi. I hope Jerry has learned the lesson after Parcells. I hope he keeps the two around long term. I think they can win us a title, as long as Jerry just lets them do their jobs. I trust what Mike McCarthy is doing, just as I think Cowboys fans trusted (as did I) Parcells.

I was on message boards in 2003 under Campo. It was a dark time. We stunk, had a bad coach, an owner who was responsible for it all. The eagles were destroying us for all the years we abused them. The only team we owned was Washington, lol.
We should have taken Rogers the year he came out. Romo wasn't proven and Spears didn't turn into a great player.
Having Romo and Rogers on the same team battling it out would have been a great thing for the Cowboys imo.

 

[CCBoy]

You were wrong. You were dead wrong. You thought I was being critical of the team and it was the exact opposite. I was responding to a guy that didnt believe me that MM's offense was going to be a good one and he would be successful calling the plays.

You made an incorrect assumption then insulted me.

At least be man enough to apologize. Or dont!

You weren't ballpark.

This is the first of the season.

The doubting periods were during the off season if including a reference to Jerry, Mike McCarthy, or Dak Prescott.

The whole time from the start of the off season to right now, I have not doubted a thing of those three targets. Not once.

Why would you ask me if I now doubted Cowboys' Head Coach now?

No, I won't take brow beats from yourself...and don't ever ask me again, if I am on drugs or drunk. I owe YOU no apology.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I was on message boards in 2003 under Campo. It was a dark time. We stunk, had a bad coach, an owner who was responsible for it all. The eagles were destroying us for all the years we abused them. The only team we owned was Washington, lol.
We should have taken Rogers the year he came out. Romo wasn't proven and Spears didn't turn into a great player.
Having Romo and Rogers on the same team battling it out would have been a great thing for the Cowboys imo.

And we'd have had an insane duo at QB.

 

[CCBoy]

Clearly one of the biggest blind homers on here. Virtually useless for any real football conversation.

The funniest part is his style of writing as if he thinks it makes him look smart. I have found that the people that try too hard to sound intelligent usually are not.

You see no good in my efforts, then keep me out of YOUR mouth. You merely stir a pot here...you are off topic and doing nothing but personalizing.

As if you have any trouble understanding. Now have a nice day....

This is what started it all for you:

'Give it up...I state what I believe. Play with one's doubts by yourself.'

(my statement was that I wasn't going to play around with a statement that started with a double negative as a quote)

 

[jazzcat22]

Parcells wanted bus drivers. It was his team building model. It was his monster flaw as a coach.

Bill played the offense way too close to the vest. I believe he cost us quite a few wins because of it.
He brought in too many of his old players therefore costing young potential players an opportunity.

He set the team back years on defense as well. And it snowballed for years.
I hated when he went to the 3-4. They did not have the player to do so. Then drafted players that did not fit. Does the name Carpenter ring a bell? More of a thud than a ring.

After he quit. Jerry had and wanted to stay with the 3-4, so he hires Wade Phillips. Then after Garrett his hand picked coach in training came in. They brought in the spawn of Buddy Ryan, worse DC ever. However, that continued with out dated DC's. Kiffin, Marinelli. As then they changed back to the 4-3, again not having the players.
Bill's decision to go to the 3-4 set the defense back, 10 years easily. Probably longer.

Then Jerry hangs onto to Garrett and all the bad defensive coaches and system too long as well.

In comes Will McClay, can't remember what year, then some signs of improvement. Now MM & DQ come along, and the culture and everything else improves as well.

Did Jerry do it right this time, or did he just get lucky it is turning out for the better.

 

[Batman1980]

Bill played the offense way too close to the vest. I believe he cost us quite a few wins because of it.
He brought in too many of his old players therefore costing young potential players an opportunity.

He set the team back years on defense as well. And it snowballed for years.
I hated when he went to the 3-4. They did not have the player to do so. Then drafted players that did not fit. Does the name Carpenter ring a bell? More of a thud than a ring.

After he quit. Jerry had and wanted to stay with the 3-4, so he hires Wade Phillips. Then after Garrett his hand picked coach in training came in. They brought in the spawn of Buddy Ryan, worse DC ever. However, that continued with out dated DC's. Kiffin, Marinelli. As then they changed back to the 4-3, again not having the players.
Bill's decision to go to the 3-4 set the defense back, 10 years easily. Probably longer.

Then Jerry hangs onto to Garrett and all the bad defensive coaches and system too long as well.

In comes Will McClay, can't remember what year, then some signs of improvement. Now MM & DQ come along, and the culture and everything else improves as well.

Did Jerry do it right this time, or did he just get lucky it is turning out for the better.

I think he hired McClay because he's a Dallas area guy and I think he hired Big Mike because Big Mike is a proven coach who's done it before. He then hired Dan Quinn to put pressure on Big Mike and so far (in the regular season anyway) it's working out.

 

[CCBoy]

Bill played the offense way too close to the vest. I believe he cost us quite a few wins because of it.
He brought in too many of his old players therefore costing young potential players an opportunity.

He set the team back years on defense as well. And it snowballed for years.
I hated when he went to the 3-4. They did not have the player to do so. Then drafted players that did not fit. Does the name Carpenter ring a bell? More of a thud than a ring.

After he quit. Jerry had and wanted to stay with the 3-4, so he hires Wade Phillips. Then after Garrett his hand picked coach in training came in. They brought in the spawn of Buddy Ryan, worse DC ever. However, that continued with out dated DC's. Kiffin, Marinelli. As then they changed back to the 4-3, again not having the players.J
Bill's decision to go to the 3-4 set the defense back, 10 years easily. Probably longer.

Then Jerry hangs onto to Garrett and all the bad defensive coaches and system too long as well.

In comes Will McClay, can't remember what year, then some signs of improvement. Now MM & DQ come along, and the culture and everything else improves as well.

Did Jerry do it right this time, or did he just get lucky it is turning out for the better.

Jerry Jones went with another prior winner who had a Lombardi. Generally, I think that criteria for selection could be realisticly relied upon beyond just an anslysis of success within the past 4 seasons whether at the professional or collegiate levels. It was solid.

Mike McCarthy selected his own staff and did a very analytical job initially...and after getting his own grasp of the current status of the roster.

Jerry empowered his coach, as he always has attempted to do, with analytics and staff in support. Prior to the arrival of McCarthy, and even at the close of Jason Garrett's time, he had put together a class Scouting Group that started adding a whole group of team building talents.

The strengths of the NFL have changed since the departure of Jimmy Johnson.

As to Jerry's role, it is currently responsive to today's NFL. He owes no present apologies for the current team. He also owes no apologies now he has the team fully competitive again. At least to me, this is no mirage.

I'm sorry my chosen team didn't do better, but I was raised a man, and won't attempt to apologize for his walk as a man prior to this.

GO COWBOYS!

 

[shabazz]

I’m gonna go with just over a quarter ton combined…..and probably a goodly amount of chaffing.