Bill Parcells book: "Almost became Saints coach, almost traded them Tony Romo"

MikeT22 said:
Jerry didn't like walking on eggshells. Had to be large and in charge again.
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And he found the absolute perfect foil to do it. A self deprecating, chuckling clown with zero backbone who would never make Jones feel he had to step back.

Phillips was a nice fellow, but he learned after getting ousted in Buffalo that he should not cross his employer. Or do anything but spit shine his shoes.

What is funny is that those that dismiss that Coach Parcells changed the culture now are whipping themselves into a tizzy praising Garrett for restoring a lot of the same concepts that the Phillips paired with Power Jerry era tore down in swift fashion.
 
Alexander said:
And he found the absolute perfect foil to do it. A self deprecating, chuckling clown with zero backbone who would never make Jones feel he had to step back.

Phillips was a nice fellow, but he learned after getting ousted in Buffalo that he should not cross his employer. Or do anything but spit shine his shoes.

What is funny is that those that dismiss that Coach Parcells changed the culture now are whipping themselves into a tizzy praising Garrett for restoring a lot of the same concepts that the Phillips paired with Power Jerry era tore down in swift fashion.
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In fairness to Wade, plenty of teams have pursued him in the past, and asked him to step in as coach. Our options were also pretty slim. I think the only other real candidate was Ron Rivera.
 
Crown Royal said:
In fairness to Wade, plenty of teams have pursued him in the past, and asked him to step in as coach. Our options were also pretty slim. I think the only other real candidate was Ron Rivera.
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The only other real candidate was Norv Turner. Rivera, Jim Caldwell, Singletary etc. were just fluff. They all had to deal with the fact Jason Garrett was already installed as the offensive coordinator. The options are going to be fairly slim when the head coach cannot even choose his own offensive coordinator.
 
Alexander said:
The only other real candidate was Norv Turner. Rivera, Jim Caldwell, Singletary etc. were just fluff. They all had to deal with the fact Jason Garrett was already installed as the offensive coordinator. The options are going to be fairly slim when the head coach cannot even choose his own offensive coordinator.
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Even without Garrett I think that was the list. Singletary may be the only one there that wouldn't have towed the Jones line. But he isn't exactly the strongest of strategic options.
 
MikeT22 said:
Yep. Thank God for an undrafted free agent QB because heaven knows Jerry couldn't draft his way out of a paper bag. At least Parcells got us out of the 5-11 muck and back to credibility. Unfortunately Jerry went with softy Wade and squandered what was being built.
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Couldn't draft his way out of a paper bag? How you think we won the division and that playoff game? Luck? No, it was because Jerry found some gems in that paper bag! You got 2 accounts pebble?

So you liked when Parcells drafted Bruce Thorton and Skylar Green in the 4th round? When's the last time pebble or horse tooth Werder questioned those selection? #sameintensity pebble #sameintensity

What Bill started to build had little staying power, because it wasn't that good to begin with.
 
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jobberone said:
First of all, I don't know what calling a person a pebble is. But labeling people or name calling is not allowed here.

Parcells is known for taking programs on the down and out and turning them around. You can focus on one player but he put in his stamp of 'football' that is still felt around here. He turned the Jets around. NE, too. He had less success in Miami but if memory serves he wasn't a coach there.

Everyone else thinks he's a great coach. If you do as well then great. You can try to diminish his import to the NFL by nitpicking IF this and IF that all you want. You're on a very sparsely populated island my friend.
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pebble = term of endearment to my favorite poster on these boards and he(or she) know who they are!

Did I not say he was a great coach in both NY spots and NE. I've defended him from the likes of Deion Sanders. From those who go on about Joe Gibbs. He was great...just not in Dallas or Miami!#kanyeshrug

Both NY spots and New England got the Big Tuna, Dallas and Miami got Tuna Lite... well Miami got straight robbed.. but that's none of my business
 
Gameover said:
Couldn't draft his way out of a paper bag? How you think we won the division and that playoff game? Luck? No, it was because Jerry found some gems in that paper bag! You got 2 accounts pebble?

So you liked when Parcells drafted Bruce Thorton and Skylar Green in the 4th round? When's the last time pebble or horse tooth Werder questioned those selection? #sameintensity pebble #sameintensity

What Bill started to build had little staying power, because it wasn't that good to begin with.
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No it was handed back to Jerry and his calming coach. Phillips has never been a HC of a team that continued success under his reign.
Good DC, never a good HC.
 
calming coach?

The division and playoff game I was referring too is this year.
 
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Gameover said:
Couldn't draft his way out of a paper bag? How you think we won the division and that playoff game? Luck? No, it was because Jerry found some gems in that paper bag! You got 2 accounts pebble?

So you liked when Parcells drafted Bruce Thorton and Skylar Green in the 4th round? When's the last time pebble or horse tooth Werder questioned those selection? #sameintensity pebble #sameintensity

What Bill started to build had little staying power, because it wasn't that good to begin with.
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The last few drafts don't make up for over a dozen flops. And yes, BP missed on a couple 4th rounders. I had some issues with him when he was here and he obviously wasn't the same as the BP from the '80s-'90's and minus his usual staff, but he was far better than what Jerry did from the time Jimmy was forced out til the day he arrived. Anyone who doesn't see that the culture and talent changed for the better over the 4 years BP was here is either blind or intentionally obtuse.
 
Gameover said:
pebble = term of endearment to my favorite poster on these boards and he(or she) know who they are!

Did I not say he was a great coach in both NY spots and NE. I've defended him from the likes of Deion Sanders. From those who go on about Joe Gibbs. He was great...just not in Dallas or Miami!#kanyeshrug

Both NY spots and New England got the Big Tuna, Dallas and Miami got Tuna Lite... well Miami got straight robbed.. but that's none of my business
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Pebble = good. :)

I don't know that we got all the fire of the previous Tuna but I saw it at times. Not sure what you need or that you are even disagreeing but he did turn this franchise around. 5-11 X 3 then 10-6 with that crew is pretty good. Campo's defense was better than avg by a bit so all the dumping on Campo is a bit unreasonable BTW. So he got at least an ok defense although it was going the wrong way.

Bill left too early but he's want to do that. Why? I've wondered. My guess is personality at the upper levels but that's a total guess. I have zero inside knowledge of his desire to wander.
 
I don't think BP was as great in Dallas as his younger years. Older age has a way of doing that. But what he did for Dallas was remarkable.

Bill had his misses in the draft that get way overstated here. He is similar to Belicheck in this sense. They know the exact type of players they prefer. And while they may miss on their draft picks both Bill's are two of the best of all time in getting the most out of their players and rosters. They find undrafted guys who are coached up who make big plays in important games.

Also, while I am sure Parcells didn't "discover" Romo, how he developed him with patience over years should be a book some day. I find it funny when I read Parcells should have thrown Romo out there in his first or second year. romo may have survived that, but in all likelihood, it would have destroyed him.

Lastly, not only is Parcells great at developing player talent, he may be even better identifying and developing coaching talent. It is quite remarkable of the coaches he either wanted to hire or did hire. I was reading the Parcells book, and I beleive he tried to hire Dungy before Dungy was a coach. There were a number of stories of guys he tried to hire who had long coaching carers. Plus all the guys he did wind up hiring.
 
Don't know why ppl worship bill. He did a decent job here but is not the genius ppl think he is. It was Payton that lobbied for romo. Bill is a new York guy and that's all I'll ever think of him as.
 
Wade did do a better job as coach an one area for two reasons and even pebble can't deny this:Roy Williams and Bradie James.

Parcells had no clue of how to 'hide' these two in pass coverage.

Remember? How many times did we see Bradie's fat butt chasing after a pass catcher who had gotten behind him?

Remember that long TD he gave up in that playoff game @ Seattle? Side note: I always put that loss on terry Glenn and Bradie James. If Glenn hadn't of stumbled and bumbled @ our goal line , I think we win the game. Who's guy was he?....

It seems like every loss in 05 and 06 was a result of coverage breakdowns from Williams and James or field goal kicking.

Parcells had no clue on how to fix the Bradie/Roy problem. Wade came in and Mr. Fix it, fixed it! Bradie was never a problem in pass coverage for at least the next 2 seasons.

Advantage: Wade

That's a fact. Late in the 2006 season Is when I tuned Parcells out because I realized he no answer for the Bradie James coverage problem.
 
Risen Star said:
That was nonsense. Romo was a wide eyed rookie starter with not even a full season starting under his belt. He was a mistake waiting to happen in that game and Parcells knew it.
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Say it with confidence. Hope nobody notices you don't know what you're talking about. Romo's passer rating was over 95 that season. And he was throwing against an injured DB corps that was starting a rookie CB (Trufant was hurt) and signing walk on veteran free agents just that week (you remember Pete Hunter, don't you?) Romo had no trouble moving the ball into scoring position when he needed to. He was limited by a poor offensive game plan that was too conservative.
 
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He never was going to coach the Saints. He only takes over abysmal teams so everyone can kiss his behind when he brings then to 10-6.
 
Risen Star said:
That was nonsense. Romo was a wide eyed rookie starter with not even a full season starting under his belt. He was a mistake waiting to happen in that game and Parcells knew it.
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I disagree. We could have challenged the Seahawks secondary more than we did. After all they signed two corners off the street the week prior, including Pete Hunter, who was working at a post office and whom we knew as a player from his time with Dallas. That was a HUGE missed opportunity.
 
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