Bill Parcells speaks about Dallas defense and offense

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How many people does JJ need to hear it from that his pet project isn’t working. Just because someone is “smart” doesn’t exactly make them a good coordinator. (Save with garret).

Now I know a lot of it is on dak as well… but you can get someone to tailor the offense to your players strengths. Brian dabol this year made Daniel jones look pretty good and that was with less weapons than dak has.

In the game against SF I still ask myself why 2nd and 2 before the half we were passing. Such a moronic move and friable offense. You could have literally ran it there…and sf had no chance of getting the ball back… regardless if we scored or not
Question is...did he call a run or a pass? I haven't had the stomach to go back and watch to see if it looked like Dak checked to another play.
 

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Sounds like he was talking about Troy Aikman.

Don't believe me? Look at Troy's first 2 and last 4 seasons...

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AikmTr00.htm
Dude, Troys first 2 seasons were in the midst of a complete team rebuild. Dak is NOTHING like Troy. Not even in the same ballpark, but your not going to get that reading a stat page. You have to have actually seen both of them play and watched their careers. Aikman had a cannon for an arm and was laser accurate. He played in an offense that was run first but not b/c he couldn't read the field and carry on a passing attack. Troy was always considered an elite QB and from 1991-1996, there was none better. By year 8, Troy was already a 3 time super bowl champ and having a HOF career. Dak has made 2 pro bowls in 7 seasons and won 2 wildcard playoff games.

Anyone who thinks there are any similarity between these 2 and their careers is just ignorant and suffering from severe recency bias. Heck, I'd put Romo and Danny White over Dak.
 
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Dude, Troys first 2 seasons were in the midst of a complete team rebuild. Dak is NOTHING like Troy. Not even in the same ballpark, but your not going to get that reading a stat page. You have to have actually seen both of them play. Aikman had a cannon for an arm and was laser accurate. He played in an offense that was run first but not b/c he couldn't read the field and carry on a passing attack. ALL QBs need protection and weapons. Some just need more than others.
The Cowboys 1990 and 1991 seasons for the younger fans to view.

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Dude, Troys first 2 seasons were in the midst of a complete team rebuild. Dak is NOTHING like Troy. Not even in the same ballpark, but your not going to get that reading a stat page. You have to have actually seen both of them play. Aikman had a cannon for an arm and was laser accurate. He played in an offense that was run first but not b/c he couldn't read the field and carry on a passing attack. ALL QBs need protection and weapons. Some just need more than others.
I'm 52. Was in my prime during those 90s SB years. Saw every game. You're correct about Troy's arm, but he also had his inaccuracies and INTs during the regular season during his first 2 years and last 4 years.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AikmTr00.htm

Go ahead, click on the link above and look at his stats. During the playoffs, Troy arguably was among the best (except during the 1994 NFC Championship Game against the 49ers where Troy threw 3 INTs and contributed to the loss) and most accurate passers. But during his first 2 and last 4 regular seasons when he didn't have all of those weapons and best Oline around him, Troy struggled. That's a fact and it shows in his career stats.
 

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We can replace Moore, but whoever takes his spot will just get blamed for Dak's blunders going forward.
 

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I'm 52. Was in my prime during those 90s SB years. Saw every game. You're correct about Troy's arm, but he also had his inaccuracies and INTs during the regular season during his first 2 years and last 4 years.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AikmTr00.htm

Go ahead, click on the link above and look at his stats. During the playoffs, Troy arguably was among the best (except during the 1994 NFC Championship Game against the 49ers where Troy threw 3 INTs and contributed to the loss) and most accurate passers. But during his first 2 and last 4 regular seasons when he didn't have all of those weapons and best Oline around him, Troy struggled. That's a fact and it shows in his career stats.
Thats cherry picking. No Qb is great every year in every game not even Brady who had some bad playoff runs himself where the team won in spite of him or lost b/c he was ineffective. Peyton Manning had some awful seasons as well. We gonna judge him to on his less than stellar moments? You look at the career as a whole and Troys adds up to HOF.

Can't wait until Dak has a season worthy of cherry picking. No QB in Cowboy history has had as much talent around them as Dak. He's literally nover had a season without pro bowl OL, rbs, and wrs.
 

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I'm 52. Was in my prime during those 90s SB years. Saw every game. You're correct about Troy's arm, but he also had his inaccuracies and INTs during the regular season during his first 2 years and last 4 years.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AikmTr00.htm

Go ahead, click on the link above and look at his stats. During the playoffs, Troy arguably was among the best (except during the 1994 NFC Championship Game against the 49ers where Troy threw 3 INTs and contributed to the loss) and most accurate passers. But during his first 2 and last 4 regular seasons when he didn't have all of those weapons and best Oline around him, Troy struggled. That's a fact and it shows in his career stats.
How many QBs picked as the #1 pick in the NFL drafted by one of the worst teams in the NFL came out playing well?

Aikman got better every season from 1989, 1990, 1991, and 1992 winning the SB and SB MVP.

How many QBs drafted #1 in the draft did the same within 4 seasons? To go from the worst team to the best team in the NFL?
 
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Not sure if this has been posted or not. BP sees it how I do.

The Super Bowl-winning coach said he likes what he sees from the team on defense but the offense -- particularly Kellen Moore's play-calling -- is hurting the team.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/arti..._shares_thoughts_on_cowboys/s1_13132_38394656

That's not to say that Dak didn't wet the bed but Kellen was asleep at the wheel simultaneously.

Bill and I see things exactly the same way. Wish he was our GM.
 

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I agree with BP as usual. We threw it 556 times and ran it 531 last season. We need above 50% rushing and we need an OC with a better balance, scheme and feel for the game.
Dak should be treated like Cooper Rush and protected from himself. Beef up the interior OL and DL (D. Payne, J. Hargrave) this offseason. Cut Zeke and pair an insider runner with Pollard.
Dakota only averaged 33 pass attempts per game this season…..maybe they should keep it at 20 passes as a cap.
 

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How many QBs picked as the #1 pick in the NFL drafted by one of the worst teams in the NFL came out playing well?

Aikman got better every season from 1989, 1990, 1991, and 1992 winning the SB and SB MVP.

How many QBs drafted #1 in the draft did the same within 4 seasons? To go from the worst team to the best team in the NFL?
That makes too much sense! Please don’t listen to Tad. Complete clown poster who has zero sense about team vs QB infatuation
 
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Thats cherry picking. No Qb is great every year in every game not even Brady who had some bad playoff runs himself where the team won in spite of him or lost b/c he was ineffective. Peyton Manning had some awful seasons as well. We gonna judge him to on his less than stellar moments? You look at the career as a whole and Troys adds up to HOF.

Can't wait until Dak has a season worthy of cherry picking. No QB in Cowboy history has had as much talent around them as Dak. He's literally nover had a season without pro bowl OL, rbs, and wrs.
Wow. Seriously? No QB in Cowboys history has had as much talent around him as Dak? What a bunch of BS!

What do you think Troy was surrounded with? Chopped liver??? He had arguably the best Oline in the history of the NFL during those SB years of the 90s. He had by far the most talented group of starters and backups throughout most of the 90s. He also had the #1 All Time rusher in history, along with one of the Top 10 best All Time WRs in the history of the NFL. That's not including a very good #2 and #3 WRs, plus one of the Top 3 TEs of the 90s. Plus, certainly the best FB of the 90s as well. That's not including the coaching staff, so stop with the baloney already. Sheesh!

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That's not including Romo who had a franchise record 13 Pro Bowlers around him during his first full season (2007) as a starter and the next 2 seasons after that. That 2014 season, Romo had a way better Oline than Dak's had since Tyron Smith, Zack Martin and Travis Frederick were all 1st round picks young and in their prime. Ron Leary and Doug Free were very good as well to round up the rest of the Oline.

Romo also had the best TE in the league in Jason Witten, a top 3 WR in Dez Bryant, and pretty good #2 WR in Terrence Williams and the league's leading rusher in DeMarco Murray. All better weapons than what Dak has had the past several years. So let's stop with the bull just to try to win an argument.
 

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That makes too much sense! Please dine listen to Tad. Complete clown poster who has zero sense about team vs QB infatuation
Who are you calling Tad! You clowns like to name call and talk a lot of trash when you're losing an argument.
 

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Wow. Seriously? No QB in Cowboys history has had as much talent around him as Dak? What a bunch of BS!

What do you think Troy was surrounded with? Chopped liver??? He had arguably the best Oline in the history of the NFL during those SB years of the 90s. He has by far the most talented group of starters and backups throughout the whole decade of the 90s. He also had the #1 All Time rusher in history, along with one of the Top 10 best All Time WRs in the history of the NFL. That's not including a very good #2 and #3 WRs, plus one of the Top 3 TEs of the 90s. Plus, certainly the best FB of the 90s as well. That's not including the coaching staff, so stop with the baloney already. Sheesh!

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That's not including Romo who had a franchise record 13 Pro Bowlers around him during his first full season (2007) as a starter and the next 2 seasons after that. That 2014 season, Romo had a way better Oline than Dak's had since Tyron Smith, Zack Martin and Travis Frederick were all 1st round picks young and in their prime. Ron Leary and Doug Free were very good as well to round up the rest of the Oline.

Romo also had the best TE in the league in Jason Witten, a top 3 WR in Dez Bryant, and pretty good #2 WR in Terrence Williams and the league's leading rusher in DeMarco Murray. All better weapons than what Dak has had the past several years. So let's stop with the bull just to try to win an argument.
Aikman was drafted by the worst NFL team in 1989 that went 1-15.

Emmitt Smith was not on the team yet. The Cowboys did not have the #1 D yet. The Great Wall of Dallas did not exist.

You claim you are 52 years old and I am 45 and witnessed all of this.

Something about you does not make sense.

The 1991 Cowboys gave up 11 sacks in one game.



The 1992 Cowboys got beat convincingly by the Eagles early in that season as well.

By the end of the 1992 season; the Cowboys were the best team in football.

When Jimmy stated How Bout Them Cowboys?

It meant how do you like the Cowboys now? To all of the teams that ridiculed, beat up on the Cowboys from 1989-early 1992, and stated the Cowboys were nothing.
 
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