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mschmidt64;2555001 said:
This isn't "for" the DCC.

Some posters on our board are approaching multiple websites about this. We're just gaging interest, is all. It's more of a fan initiative and clearly there are many on this board who agree with the notion that putting pressure on Jerry is worthwhile.

You guys clearly have the highest volume, so that makes this board a prime place to ask. Is there something wrong with that?
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WoodysGirl;2554807 said:
That board still around? And they still lob stuff this way? Now that's a crew that really needs to move on. *shrug*

As for the billboard idea, times is too hard to contribute something so low priority.

We mostly just pass the guys we don't want along to here. Other than that, we don't talk about this place much.
 

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bbgun;2554977 said:
I went to DCC yesterday to check it out. Lots of anti-Jerry threads, so to their credit, they're not censoring anything. Overall, I wasn't impressed with the forum, so I didn't bookmark it.

There hasn't been an anti-Jerry thread started on that site.

There have been articles posted about, but not one single poster has started one himself. Although, it should be posted on every single forum you ever post on. Jerry Jones is the reason this team won't win another SB.

Until he dies, that is. Or steps the hell down.
 

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BigDFan5;2555005 said:
Yes it is farfetched, you are asking the man who owns the team to fire himself.

Well yes. If he hired himself, he can demote himself. Is he not capable of humility or understanding?
 

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mschmidt64;2555013 said:
We mostly just pass the guys we don't want along to here. Other than that, we don't talk about this place much.


Is the 100 page thread dedicated to bashing CZ and Hostile in paticular gone?
 

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bbgun;2555016 said:
Well yes. If he hired himself, he can demote himself. Is he not capable of humility or understanding?

Hypothetical


You own the Cowboys, you are GM, you brought in alot of very good players have them signed long term. Had what was widely considered the most talented roster in the league. Yet the team lost because of some bad coaching, injuries, and other things not related to your job.

You going to fire yourself??


Now Wade definitely needs to go and Jerry is making a mistake keeping him, but its not a fireable offense
 

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mschmidt64;2555001 said:
This isn't "for" the DCC.

Some posters on our board are approaching multiple websites about this. We're just gaging interest, is all. It's more of a fan initiative and clearly there are many on this board who agree with the notion that putting pressure on Jerry is worthwhile.

You guys clearly have the highest volume, so that makes this board a prime place to ask. Is there something wrong with that?

Nope....but pouting and hurling insults when the people that don't think Jerry is the whole problem chime in is not going to win over many dissenting members here.
 

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BigDFan5;2555005 said:
Yes it is farfetched, you are asking the man who owns the team to fire himself.

He sorta did it? Not from what we have seen reported about overruling Parcells on picks, and signings

Do you have any idea what a real GM does?
 

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Iamtdg;2555014 said:
There hasn't been an anti-Jerry thread started on that site.

The top thread there is "Send your thoughts to Jerry." A lot of unpleasant thoughts have been expressed.
 

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BigDFan5;2555022 said:
Hypothetical


You own the Cowboys, you are GM, you brought in alot of very good players have them signed long term. Had what was widely considered the most talented roster in the league. Yet the team lost because of some bad coaching, injuries, and other things not related to your job.

You going to fire yourself??


Now Wade definitely needs to go and Jerry is making a mistake keeping him, but its not a fireable offense

I entirely reject the terms of that hypothetical, which are slanted in Jerry's favor and against everyone else. Only a fool would think that the problem has been the coaches lo these many years and not the guy pulling the strings. If they're accountable, so is he.
 

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bbgun;2555031 said:
I missed that??!! ;)


wasnt that good of a thread, basically think of 100 nors' posting, without the maturity, wit or charm
 

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bbgun;2555034 said:
I entirely reject the terms of that hypothetical, which are slanted in Jerry's favor and against everyone else. Only a fool would think that the problem has been the coaches lo these many years and not the guy pulling the strings. If they're accountable, so is he.


Which part of the hypothetical was wrong? Did he not make good picks in the draft recently? Did he not sign good players? Did he not assemble a team that was considered the best in the NFL?

He did his part and the coaches let him down. Keeping the coaches is stupid though I agree


You say these "many years" I am discussing this year.
 

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BigDFan5;2555017 said:
Is the 100 page thread dedicated to bashing CZ and Hostile in paticular gone?

I don't know what you're referring to. I'm not sure there has ever been such a thread. I'm sure posts over there that refer to the Zone negatively exist, but I'm sure anti-DCC posts exist here. But we don't have any particular thread devoted to "bashing" the Zone or Hostile. If anything, we have a thread discussing the DCC Genesis, but that's our creation story, not a bash thread.

tomson75 said:
Nope....but pouting and hurling insults when the people that don't think Jerry is the whole problem chime in is not going to win over many dissenting members here.

Well, I don't think we're looking for dissenters. We're interested in reaching the people that agree with us that Jerry is a problem.

Unfortunately, I get the feeling that some people were interested in diverting this thread because they don't agree that Jerry is a problem. I'm guessing the slew of "you're wasting your money/Jerry is great" posts are probably causing friction, because this wasn't supposed to be a debate thread, but rather for people who agreed with us to chime in.

I'm not going to speak for others, but I'm not "pouting" or "insulting." I didn't even start the thread, but I'm interested to see if anyone here is open to this idea. If there are no people on this board, I'm not exactly surprised, we'll move on. It's not like we're begging you for money, we wanted to know if certain people on this board would like to join us in this initiative.

If not, oh well. No loss for us. It's not like we "need" this or anything. It was just an idea.
 

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BigDFan5;2555036 said:
wasnt that good of a thread, basically think of 100 nors' posting, without the maturity, wit or charm

Sounds like ThatsMyQB.
 

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mschmidt64;2555001 said:
This isn't "for" the DCC.

Some posters on our board are approaching multiple websites about this. We're just gaging interest, is all. It's more of a fan initiative and clearly there are many on this board who agree with the notion that putting pressure on Jerry is worthwhile.

You guys clearly have the highest volume, so that makes this board a prime place to ask. Is there something wrong with that?

A couple of observations from the Guardian Beast of the board.

1. This is actually not a bad idea, however alot of people on this board have been laid off or had hours cut back and dont have any extra money to contribute.

$100 bucks is alot of money when you are living paycheck to paychek and paying the rent or buying food or paying the Visa or MasterCard bill so your credit is not destroyed is a little more important right now than a freaking billboard.......doesnt make it a bad idea however.

2. Dont critize people for wanting an autograph or trying to get pictures of the team, even after an embarrassing loss to the Rams.

I try to save up enough money to go to 1 home game per year, execpt this year when I lost my job. I dont give a dam if the team got beat 75-0, if I am lucky enough to be at a game then you dam well better believe I am going to take pictures of my team and try to get an autograph.

That is what being a fan is all about, you support the team even if you are not winning playoff games. So what if Jerry meddles, at least he is trying to win and he did back off for 4 years with Tuna here and it didnt make a dam bit of difference...........no playoff wins.

You talk of boycotting the team........please.

I wear my Cowboy gear with pride, that star represents almost 50 years of history and 5 World Championships. I dont have alot of money, so when I spend $75 bucks for a Romo jersey or a TO jersey, I treat it like gold.

I cannot wait for the day when I can go see a game in our new stadium, it is going to be awesome. I dont give a dam if we are 0-14 when I go, I am going to take as many pictures as possible, try to get as many autographes as possible, and hopefully have enough money to buy a T-shirt or jersey while I am there.

Why..........because I am a fan and always will be.
 

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BigDFan5;2555039 said:
Which part of the hypothetical was wrong? Did he not make good picks in the draft recently? Did he not sign good players? Did he not assemble a team that was considered the best in the NFL?.

I dunno. Who was responsible for what when Bill was here? Most people here credit Tuna for upgrading the talent base. Likewise, Jerry's accumulated a lot of names, but he's yet to build a functioning team.

He did his part and the coaches let him down. Keeping the coaches is stupid though I agree

So who hired the incompetent coaches? The GM, who has to go.

You say these "many years" I am discussing this year

How was 2008 a point in his favor? The Williams trade looks like a disaster at this point, the team cratered in December as usual, and his impotent, hand-picked coach couldn't unify the locker room. I really have to wonder if we're discussing the same team.
 

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mschmidt64;2555040 said:
Well, I don't think we're looking for dissenters. We're interested in reaching the people that agree with us that Jerry is a problem.

Unfortunately, I get the feeling that some people were interested in diverting this thread because they don't agree that Jerry is a problem. I'm guessing the slew of "you're wasting your money/Jerry is great" posts are probably causing friction, because this wasn't supposed to be a debate thread, but rather for people who agreed with us to chime in.

I'm not going to speak for others, but I'm not "pouting" or "insulting." I didn't even start the thread, but I'm interested to see if anyone here is open to this idea. If there are no people on this board, I'm not exactly surprised, we'll move on. It's not like we're begging you for money, we wanted to know if certain people on this board would like to join us in this initiative.

If not, oh well. No loss for us. It's not like we "need" this or anything. It was just an idea.

It's a discussion board. People discuss the topics presented. That's all that's been done here. It'd be extremely naive to think that something like this would be devoted to those that agree with you POV alone.

...and I never said you were pouting or insulting anyone....but if you can't handle debate on a topic that you've presented on a forum designed to promote discussion, then perhaps you should move on. Like you said, you don't 'need' us or anything.

Good luck with your venture. If it helps the team improve, then what you're doing will have been a great help to all Cowboy fans, even those that don't see the problems in a like manner.
 
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