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ATXcowboyzfan;4931841 said:
I'm as upset as anyone, but this label of their offense being "gimmicky" is getting to be old and tired. I think it's innovative and other teams are beginning to implement it themselves.

And when teams realize that their quarterbacks won't last 16 games running it all of the time, they'll quickly abandon it as a full-time offense and use it only occasionally.
 

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AdamJT13;4931865 said:
This is by far his biggest failure. The way he managed the final 90 seconds of the first half was just abysmal. You call a timeout before third down, then punt from your opponent's 34-yard line in the most important game of the season? Really??

Congratulations, you just became the first coach this millennium to punt from inside the opponent's 35 at the end of the first half when you weren't already ahead by double digits. Coward.

This might be the most scathing post I have seen you make.

And it is dead on too.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4931860 said:
It is a gimmick offense and it will not last. Just like the Run-n-shoot.
The only reason we got beat by it this year is because we have so many guys injured on defense. We are playing,literally with street free agents.

I mean Poppinga? Simms? Really? These are our starters. You lose seven players on defense and you are really up crap creek.

er, the Run-n-shoot concepts are pretty much what Peyton, Manning and Brees run. A LOT of the modern NFL route tree derives from the run and shoot offense.

The Pistol is really just Mike Shanahan's ZBS bootleg scheme he ran with Elway and Young (which was ALSO called a gimmick at the time, funny that) except from a different formation. You could run it with any mobile QB, but obviously RGIII makes it amazing.

Also, Jason Garrett would probably make a decent QB coach but that's the only NFL job he's really qualified for. Nepotism at its finest. He got the job because of who he knew, not what he knew.

And when teams realize that their quarterbacks won't last 16 games running it all of the time, they'll quickly abandon it as a full-time offense and use it only occasionally.

RGIII has never gotten injured on a designed run. He's gotten injured on scrambles away from heavy pressure, which are different from designed runs.
 

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ATXcowboyzfan;4931841 said:
I'm as upset as anyone, but this label of their offense being "gimmicky" is getting to be old and tired. I think it's innovative and other teams are beginning to implement it themselves. Besides, whatever you call it, we've not only faced it before but we've had an opportunity to review 16 weeks of it coming into tonight. We better figure something out bc this is the new phase of the NFL.

The Commanders do have a gimmicky offense. Collingsworth called it Hocus Pocus.
Its college offense. Running that double fake misdirection handoffs with the QB keeper around the edge.....

The design of the offense is to trick you into not knowing who has the ball.

I agree that its going to be a trend that spreads in the league. However this isnt a new offense. Its not innovative. Its college offense. Its ran often at the high school level even. If it catches on then the defenses will adjust.
Its the wildcat offense basically. It didnt kill us today. We


Answer this..... Who was the last QB that played the way RG3 plays that continued to play this way for a long career?
RG3 will run less and less or the Commanders will have to carry and rotate 3 QB's in the game to keep him injury free. It catches up with QB's after a year or 2. RG3 was knocked out this year running and almost had the lower portion of his leg ripped off and this is his rookie year.
 

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Dale;4931757 said:
I'm sure this was covered elsewhere, but what is everyone's thoughts on Jerry's post-game comments? He opened up by saying he would not address the coaching situation, and went on to praise Washington's organization and organizational structure and said how we were far removed from them in terms of being where we needed to be. Is his support of Garrett wavering?

I noticed that, too. He mentioned not only RG3 but also how well coached the Commanders were.

I also noticed that on Stephen's radio show last week, he refused to address Garrett's future, saying we were focused only on the Commanders. When Mike Fisher said (paraphrasing), "You realize not directly answering that question might create some controversy, right? Would you like to clarify anything about your coach's future?" Stephen said only, "We're just focused on the Commanders right now." Hmm.

And then there was Dan Patrick claiming about a month ago (the day after the Brown death) that Jerry had been doing his due diligence on new coaches, because if we missed the playoffs again, Garrett was in trouble.

I don't expect him to make a move, but maybe there's a tiny sliver of hope.
 

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AdamJT13;4931865 said:
This is by far his biggest failure. The way he managed the final 90 seconds of the first half was just abysmal. You call a timeout before third down, then punt from your opponent's 34-yard line in the most important game of the season? Really??

Congratulations, you just became the first coach this millennium to punt from inside the opponent's 35 at the end of the first half when you weren't already ahead by double digits. Coward.

That you bring it up, anyone else notice Moorman looked pretty steamed after the punt?
 

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Cajuncowboy;4931872 said:
This might be the most scathing post I have seen you make.

And it is dead on too.

It's the exact same thing I've been criticizing Garrett for all season, and I predicted just a few days ago that he would do the same thing against the Commanders. I wish I hadn't been right.
 

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Chocolate Lab;4931879 said:
I noticed that, too. He mentioned not only RG3 but also how well coaches the Commanders were.

I also noticed that on Stephen's radio show last week, he refused to address Garrett's future, saying we were focused only on the Commanders. When Mike Fisher said (paraphrasing), "You realize not directly answering that question might create some controversy, right? Would you like to clarify anything about your coach's future?" Stephen said only, "We're just focused on the Commanders right now."

And then there was Dan Patrick claiming about a month ago (the day after the Brown death) that Jerry had been doing his due diligence on new coaches, because if we missed the playoffs again, Garrett was in trouble.

Not getting my hopes up, but maybe there's a tiny sliver of hope.

Please don't instill some hope back into me. I have come to the rationalization that Garrett will be back next season to dazzle me with a new play or two in the book.
 

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FiveRings;4931880 said:
That you bring it up, anyone else notice Moorman looked pretty steamed after the punt?

I think he might have been calling for a quick snap (to get the free penalty) and couldn't get it.

He probably could have just took off running and might have picked up the first down, too. The Commanders were in complete disarray, and we couldn't take advantage of it one bit. We just gave them the ball at the 20. Stupid decision compounded by stupid execution.
 

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FiveRings;4931880 said:
That you bring it up, anyone else notice Moorman looked pretty steamed after the punt?

I think that was because they had a chance to catch Washington offsides and nobody hiked the ball.
 

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Cajuncowboy;4931860 said:
It is a gimmick offense and it will not last. Just like the Run-n-shoot.
The only reason we got beat by it this year is because we have so many guys injured on defense. We are playing,literally with street free agents.

I mean Poppinga? Simms? Really? These are our starters. You lose seven players on defense and you are really up crap creek.

You can't base it on our injuries alone. What about the other teams they beat this year or all of the teams the Seahawks and 49ers have beat? We're those losses attributable to injuries like ours? I think people are just using this as an excuse. We were out coached on all levels and we'll continue to be until we adjust. Sadly I don't think this will happen with JJ calling the shots. Hell, look at how the tide has turned since Danny Boy relinquished his control to Bruce Allen and Mike Shannahan. Take notice JJ.
 

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InTheClouds;4931877 said:
RGIII has never gotten injured on a designed run. He's gotten injured on scrambles away from heavy pressure, which are different from designed runs.

He blew out his knee on a designed run at Baylor. But that's not really the point. The more times your quarterback is running with the ball, either on a designed run or scrambling, the more he is going to get hit. And the more he gets hit, the more he is likely to get injured. It's not like a designed run is any safer than a scramble, just like it's not any safer for a running back to be running with the ball after taking a handoff than after catching it. It's just a coincidence that both of Griffin's injuries this season happened on scrambles and not designed runs.

There's a reason that NFL teams like to try to quell their young quarterbacks' urges to scramble and want them to become pocket passers -- they want them to take fewer hits so they'll be able to play without getting hurt as much. If the Commanders are going to expose Griffin to big hits on runs and scrambles (as well as in the pocket), then they're going to have to live with having him get hurt occasionally.
 

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AdamJT13;4931885 said:
It's the exact same thing I've been criticizing Garrett for all season, and I predicted just a few days ago that he would do the same thing against the Commanders. I wish I hadn't been right.
When guys like Adam, 5stars, Hostile, and other homers start blasting the Cowboys, that's when you know it's bad.
 

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It's hard to win when your coach makes moves that actively helps you to lose games. Garrett's decisions such as what went on at halftime, is just another one of the decisions that costs us points throughout the game and ends up coming back to haunt us.

I'm willing to deal with Romo for one more year, especially under a new coach, but not Garrett. Garrett has to go. We're wasting all of this talent watching him learn on the job. If anything, he is nice at picking up players in the draft, so make him general manager if Jerry must absolutely keep his boy around. His game day decisions are a huge part of why we lose games.
 

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Clove;4931927 said:
When guys like Adam, 5stars, Hostile, and other homers start blasting the Cowboys, that's when you know it's bad.

Those guys always call it like they see it. They just don't see it wrong most of the time like many others do.
 

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Idgit;4931954 said:
Those guys always call it like they see it. They just don't see it wrong most of the time like many others do.

Everyone who posts does. It's what the poster sees, that's up for debate.
 

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Idgit;4931954 said:
Those guys always call it like they see it. They just don't see it wrong most of the time like many others do.

Zman5;4931962 said:
Everyone who posts does. It's what the poster sees, that's up for debate.

Yep...
 

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AdamJT13;4931865 said:
This is by far his biggest failure. The way he managed the final 90 seconds of the first half was just abysmal. You call a timeout before third down, then punt from your opponent's 34-yard line in the most important game of the season? Really??

Congratulations, you just became the first coach this millennium to punt from inside the opponent's 35 at the end of the first half when you weren't already ahead by double digits. Coward.
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We need an offensive Coordinator in the worst way. I think Garrett might be a good head coach but his game plan and adjustments are atrocious to be nice.
 

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JerryFan;4932160 said:
We need an offensive Coordinator in the worst way. I think Garrett might be a good head coach but his game plan and adjustments are atrocious to be nice.

He is just in over his head. He did a nice job keeping the team on track through injuries and the Brent incident, but as a game coach he just sucks.
 
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