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YoMick;1088083 said:
Safety looked far away enough to me....eh.... whatever it was, doesnt matter now....

I agree it does not matter now, the game is over I hope the team has put this game behind them because right now the only games that are important are the ones in front of us. Philly game is over with and regardless who wants to blame who for the loss it is not going to change the outcome of that game. Right now Dallas is 2-2 and 1-1 in the division with a lot of games ahead of us and I think this team will get better as we move forward.
 

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Doomsday101;1088093 said:
I agree it does not matter now, the game is over I hope the team has put this game behind them because right now the only games that are important are the ones in front of us. Philly game is over with and regardless who wants to blame who for the loss it is not going to change the outcome of that game. Right now Dallas is 2-2 and 1-1 in the division with a lot of games ahead of us and I think this team will get better as we move forward.

I just wonder how this team feels. I am sure a good number of them feel the record should be better. I am sure they feel the QB could play better.

I hope it turns around... by whatever means...
 

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YoMick;1088161 said:
I just wonder how this team feels. I am sure a good number of them feel the record should be better. I am sure they feel the QB could play better.

I hope it turns around... by whatever means...

I would hope the 1st thing each guy does is look in the mirror and ask what do they need to do to get better instead of worrying about other players.
 

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Doomsday101;1088227 said:
I would hope the 1st thing each guy does is look in the mirror and ask what do they need to do to get better instead of worrying about other players.


Dude! Yes, they could all play better.

BUT THE FACT REMAINS... with all the bad play ... it was DREW that lost the game. Period.

We cant/shouldnt deflect.

If he makes one less mistake then we would have had a chance.
 

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YoMick;1088055 said:
I beg to differ.

If your offense is scoring point for the opposition then THAT IS a problem.

If we didnt turn the ball over so much they wouldnt have had so many shots at our defense. Come on.

And if Pat Watkins isn't giving up 3 TD's a game, maybe we aren't in a friggin wild and crazy shootout against the NFL's best offense on their hometurf, and trying to force throws into a blitzing defense that knows we have no choice but to throw. Bledsoe shouldn't have needed to throw a single pass in the the 4th quarter. We should have been up at least 2 TDs, likely 3, and we should have been running out the clock. Instead we're trying to play a fastbreak basketball game against a team that was designed and built to win fastbreak basketball games.

But of course fans are going to complain and cry all week about the quarterback and the offense, because that's what fans do. Its something they can get their hands around .. If we just change QB, everything will fix itself, and then we can overcome Pat Watkins giving up 3 easy TD's a game, and we win 34-31 shootouts against the NFL's #1 offense on the road, even though that's not what this team was built to do. Yes, I know, its all so easy. And Bill Parcells must be a complete idiot for not recognizing how magically simple it all could be.
 

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InmanRoshi;1088380 said:
And if Pat Watkins isn't giving up 3 TD's a game, maybe we aren't in a friggin wild and crazy shootout against the NFL's best offense on their hometurf, and trying to force throws into a blitzing defense that knows we have no choice but to throw. Bledsoe should even had to have thrown a single pass in the 4th quarter. We should have been up at least 2 TDs, likely 3, and we should have been running out the clock. Instead we're trying to play a fastbreak basketball game against a team that was designed and built to win fastbreak basketball games.

But of course fans are going to complain and cry all week about the quarterback and the offense, because that's what fans do. Its something they can get their hands around .. If we just change QB, everything will fix itself, and then we can overcome our Pat Watkins giving up 3 easy TD's a game, and we win 34-31 shootouts against the NFL's #1 offense on the road, even though that's what what this team was built to do. Yes, I know, its all so easy. And Bill Parcells must be a complete idiot for not recognizing how magically simple it all could be.

When you're right - you're right. And you are absolutely right. The QB, and particularly Bledsoe, considering everyone's prior vendettas - is such an easy, and lazy scapegoat. Fortunately, we got to see that Romo has a little something preseason. Unfortunately, we got to see that Romo has a little something preseason.

Everyone's shiny toy is just sitting there on the bench, waiting to be unleashed on the world. That shine must blind them to the other larger problems we were having, that caused us to lose that game in Philly.
 

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InmanRoshi;1088380 said:
And if Pat Watkins isn't giving up 3 TD's a game, maybe we aren't in a friggin wild and crazy shootout against the NFL's best offense on their hometurf, and trying to force throws into a blitzing defense that knows we have no choice but to throw. Bledsoe should even had to have thrown a single pass in the 4th quarter. We should have been up at least 2 TDs, likely 3, and we should have been running out the clock. Instead we're trying to play a fastbreak basketball game against a team that was designed and built to win fastbreak basketball games.

But of course fans are going to complain and cry all week about the quarterback and the offense, because that's what fans do. Its something they can get their hands around .. If we just change QB, everything will fix itself, and then we can overcome our Pat Watkins giving up 3 easy TD's a game, and we win 34-31 shootouts against the NFL's #1 offense on the road, even though that's what what this team was built to do. Yes, I know, its all so easy. And Bill Parcells must be a complete idiot for not recognizing how magically simple it all could be.

So its easier to blame Watkins(a rookie playin like a rookie) over a pro that is playing like a rookie. If not for all of Drew Turnovers then Watkins would have been trying to defend so many times.

I know Watkins got smoked.... but Drew increased the law of averages against him.
 

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superpunk;1088388 said:
When you're right - you're right. And you are absolutely right. The QB, and particularly Bledsoe, considering everyone's prior vendettas - is such an easy, and lazy scapegoat.

WOW!

Yeah thats it. Drew is a lazy scapegoat:rolleyes: ... oh brother


Like I said... one less mistake from the 14 year Veteran(rookie-like) QB and we prob win... atleast tie
 

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YoMick;1088389 said:
I know Watkins got smoked.... but Drew increased the law of averages against him.

Just being technical, but the law of averages cannot increase. Otherwise it wouldn't be a "law of averages".

Just wanted to :storm: on the parade. ;)
 

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Drew's pass was a fade pass. In the past 40 years of the NFL, there probably hasn't been one fade pass designed to be thrown to that spot. Fade passes are to be thrown towards the sideline so the WR is the only one who can make a play on the ball.


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YoMick;1088391 said:
WOW!

Yeah thats it. Drew is a lazy scapegoat:rolleyes: ... oh brother


Like I said... one less mistake from the 14 year Veteran(rookie-like) QB and we prob win... atleast tie

And if Watkins hadn't given up 21 points, we wouldn't have been throwing at the end. We'd be sitting on a lead, letting the league's top RB do his thing. Even with Bledsoe's early turnovers.

Team concept - I know - it's really crazy stuff. But replacing the QB isn't going to fix the other woes on the team.

I know - let's replace McBriar. It's not like he didn't surrender 7 points or anything.:rolleyes:
 

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If Lance Armstrong had been on the field in training camp, I doubt this would be a problem at all.
 

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superpunk;1088397 said:
And if Watkins hadn't given up 21 points, we wouldn't have been throwing at the end. We'd be sitting on a lead, letting the league's top RB do his thing. Even with Bledsoe's early turnovers.

Team concept - I know - it's really crazy stuff. But replacing the QB isn't going to fix the other woes on the team.

I know - let's replace McBriar. It's not like he didn't surrender 7 points or anything.:rolleyes:

It was because of Drew turning the ball over that Pat was put in position more times to give up all those points.

You dont know and I dont know if changing QB helps(this year) what we do know is what we have in Drew.

Yeah replace McBriar for ONE MISTAKE... ok...
 

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YoMick;1088402 said:
It was because of Drew turning the ball over that Pat was put in position more times to give up all those points.

Philly's points came off a McBriar fumble (TD). A drew Bledsoe fumble (FG). Then, after a kickoff, McNabb goes over the top on Watkins, who also gets a facemask penalty (TD). After a punt, McNabb goes deep to Baskett over Watkins(TD). Then, after another kickoff, McNabb goes over the top on Watkins - AGAIN to Brown (TD).

Let's see. That's what - 3 points off Bledsoe's mistakes? All of Watkins miscues came after punts or kickoffs - not because of a Bledsoe turnover.

Yeah. Replacing Bledsoe is going to cut down on the mistakes Watkins gets to make. :rolleyes:
 

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superpunk;1088408 said:
Let's see. That's what - 3 points off Bledsoe's mistakes? All of Watkins miscues came after punts or kickoffs - not because of a Bledsoe turnover.
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Not to be picky but...

2-6-PHI6 :)31) D.Bledsoe pass short right intended for J.Witten INTERCEPTED by L.Sheppard at PHI -2. L.Sheppard for 102 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

:tongue:
 

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nyc;1088410 said:
Not to be picky but...

2-6-PHI6 :)31) D.Bledsoe pass short right intended for J.Witten INTERCEPTED by L.Sheppard at PHI -2. L.Sheppard for 102 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

:tongue:

Would that have reduced the number of times Watkins got burnt?

Stay on point, fella. ;)
 

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And as has been pointed out already - had WAtkins NOT gotten burnt so many times, (again, not after turnovers - it was after we scored) Bledsoe wouldn't have been throwing that pass anyway.
 

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superpunk;1088412 said:
Would that have reduced the number of times Watkins got burnt?

Stay on point, fella. ;)

I have no idea what the point was as I didn't read anything except your post as I like to point out your faults! :moon:
 

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superpunk;1088408 said:
Philly's points came off a McBriar fumble (TD). A drew Bledsoe fumble (FG). Then, after a kickoff, McNabb goes over the top on Watkins, who also gets a facemask penalty (TD). After a punt, McNabb goes deep to Baskett over Watkins(TD). Then, after another kickoff, McNabb goes over the top on Watkins - AGAIN to Brown (TD).

Let's see. That's what - 3 points off Bledsoe's mistakes? All of Watkins miscues came after punts or kickoffs - not because of a Bledsoe turnover.

Yeah. Replacing Bledsoe is going to cut down on the mistakes Watkins gets to make. :rolleyes:

Don't forget Ellis and Ware's role in Watkins demise too. If they hadn't have scored off that interception return, then maybe we aren't kicking off to Philly and giving McNabb a chance to connect with LJ Smith running free down the deep seem for 60 yards down to the 1 yard line, which they later punched in for an easy TD.
 
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