Bledsoe or McNabb?

Gamebreaker said:
You STILL haven't comprehended what I said. While you were going back looking through my post, you definitely skipped over the one that talked about the more objective forum members here. Do yourself a favor and find it yourself before I have to repost it for you.

Also, I'm glad you finally decided to talk about the actual topic, and not irrelevant troll talk that only plays as a distraction to the real issue.

I'll be away from my computer for a couple of hours, but I'll I have a counter argument to your above post on McNabb/Bledsoe when I get back.

you mean as you missed my posts saying what i voted for and why yet you still do "group logic" then ask for singular considerations?
 
iceberg said:
i voted for mcnabb for a few reasons but overall bledsoe is the better "qb" and i hate bledsoe, so this isn't "homer" talking as some children would like you to believe.

Dude, cut the ***** talk and just say my name. Furthermore, why put quarterback in quotations? I really have no idea why people keep separating McNabb's athleticism and his skills as a quarterback.

when TO went nuts on mcnabb mcnabb had every opportunity to stand up and lead the team - to get TO back onto the field and make it a team gain, not a personal loss.

Can you really blame McNabb for TO's behavior. He isn't a babysitter, he's just the quarterback. Andy Reid is more to blame for that whole situation for not reining in Owens sooner. How exactly was McNabb suppose to get Owens back on the field? He's not the coach, he doesn't have that type of control.

he didn't. if he can't handle a wild and loud yet talented wr, he's not ever gonna be a "leader" in the sense people want to make him out to be. just not there or he chooses to *not* use it.

He really shouldn't have to. Like I said, he's not the coach. Furthermore, we haven't seen how Bledsoe will handle T.O. So it's premature to claim he could do any better. A couple of months into TO's tenure as an Eagle, McNabb and he were on great terms, you really haven't given this enough time to make an assessment that Drew can tolerate TO better than Donovan.

NOW - the final reason why i chose bledsoe in the end (i voted mcnabb just to help his #'s and make a point that this poll was useless) is that mcnabb gets hurt more than a cover girls feelings at a dinner party. lobs an INT, suddenly he's limping. if he has to stay in, when he screws up his injury for some reason gets worse.

Bledsoe is more durable than McNabb. I agree.

So far you've used McNabb's failed relationship with T.O., durability, and a lack of leadership as the reasons why Bledsoe is a better quarterback. OK, here's my counter:

None of those reasons are all that important in the grand scheme of things. How many recievers have behavior problems as bad as Owens? I haven't seen ANY. Chances are, no quarterback could've done much better in that situation when TO was intentionally trying to make a bad situation worse.

McNabb has missed 16 games in the last 4 years. That is quite alot. Has occured to you that none of your reasons have anything to do with on-the-field performance?

- McNabb has never finished a season with more interceptions than touchdowns; Bledsoe has 3 times.
- McNabb has thrown for more touchdowns in a season than Bledsoe has ever had.
- Bledsoe averages nearly twice as many interceptions as McNabb per season.
- McNabb doesn't need an exceptional offensive line to be effective.
- McNabb doesn't hold onto the ball too long, Bledsoe does, and has done so all his career.
- McNabb's career completion percentage is higher.
- Bledsoe has played in 6 more seasons than McNabb, yet has less Pro Bowl selections and less playoff appearances.
- Bledsoe has played with the likes of Terry Glenn, Keyshawn Johnson, and Eric Moulds. All Pro Bowlers at some point in their careers. The only Pro Bowl reciever McNabb ever had was Terrell Owens, and McNabb's offenses were still better and he still got his teams farther.
- In just last season, Bledsoe was recorded with more poor throws, more passes defensed, and more interceptions than McNabb.

For all the talk about how McNabb has choked in conference championships and the Superbowl, you actually have to get there to even have an opportunity to choke. McNabb has shown the ability to his team's in that position alot more than Bledsoe.

Now I look at all of those reasons, I also look at the 3 reasons you brought to the table, and I come to the assessment McNabb is still the better quarterback.
 
whatever dude.

no i can't blame mcnabb for to's behavior, but i can blame mcnabb for how he handled it "as the team leader". he sucked.

bledsoe handling TO - don't care and i'm not gonna get into a defense mode. why? don't care.

in the end they're both achieving more or less the same end result by going down very different roads. i don't want either on the team so you'll need to pick up this argument w/someone else.
 
Gamebreaker said:
- McNabb has never finished a season with more interceptions than touchdowns; Bledsoe has 3 times.
- McNabb has thrown for more touchdowns in a season than Bledsoe has ever had.
- Bledsoe averages nearly twice as many interceptions as McNabb per season.
- McNabb doesn't need an exceptional offensive line to be effective.
- McNabb doesn't hold onto the ball too long, Bledsoe does, and has done so all his career.
- McNabb's career completion percentage is higher.
- Bledsoe has played in 6 more seasons than McNabb, yet has less Pro Bowl selections and less playoff appearances.
- Bledsoe has played with the likes of Terry Glenn, Keyshawn Johnson, and Eric Moulds. All Pro Bowlers at some point in their careers. The only Pro Bowl reciever McNabb ever had was Terrell Owens, and McNabb's offenses were still better and he still got his teams farther.
- In just last season, Bledsoe was recorded with more poor throws, more passes defensed, and more interceptions than McNabb.

For all the talk about how McNabb has choked in conference championships and the Superbowl, you actually have to get there to even have an opportunity to choke. McNabb has shown the ability to his team's in that position alot more than Bledsoe.

Now I look at all of those reasons, I also look at the 3 reasons you brought to the table, and I come to the assessment McNabb is still the better quarterback.


Bledsoe has thrown more than 4000 yards 3 times. He has thrown more than 4500 once. Mcnabb has never reached 4000 yards once.
Bledsoe has thrown more than 3500 yards 6 times. Mcnabb has only done it once and that was with TO.
Bledsoe generally has a better yards per catch average than Mcnabb. Mcnabb has only thrown more than 7 yards per. catch average while TO was in the game. Bledsoe has had 7 yards per. catch 5 times.
Bledsoe's rifle arm is meant for the long ball....thats why he has more INTs than Mcnabb.
Mcnabb is a west coast QB who dinks and dunks his way thru.
Defense was what got Philly into the playoffs. Not Mcnabb.
 

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