Bledsoe or McNabb?

[Alexander]

I think this statement is a bit unfair. Up till last year, McNappie was viewed as a very good leader by most.

And that demonstrates that the hype machine carried him. I've never seen much leadership. Like Quincy Carter, he likes to state that he is, but his actions betray that. He had his chance to step forward and seize control of the Owens situation. He didn't. Ask virtually any NFL player. A QB who is the leader would have challenged Owens and probably do more than verbally skirmish via the media. McNabb tolerated Owens yelling at him on the sidelines for crying out loud. That's very weak.

His style isn't to get in people's faces and challenge them. He'd rather skip around with a silly grin on his face and "have fun". That's not leadership.

Bledsoe, not so much while in Buffalo.

How so? He had disputes with the coaching staff. But I never heard of him being a spineless jellyfish.

I think this is a relative statement. Time will tell if one seperates from the other but at this point, I don't think you can say that Bledsoe has proven himself to be a superior leader.

Nor can you state that McNabb has much beyond his inflated social status to distinguish himself as a leader either.

 

[Alexander]

No, I think McNabb was portrayed in the media as one. IMO if you look at how the team reacted when everything went down with TO, it was obvious that not nearly as many players have bought into McNabb as we're lead to believe.

Rumours finally came out that some guys resent McNabbs contract and they way he is pampered by the FO, even while they let vets walk away over pennies. I don't remember anyone speaking up for McNabb when TO started to publically light into him.

Just my opinion from the reactions of that team when they encounter adversity, but I don't think he is a guy who inspires confidence or motivation in the huddle or the locker room. He just happens to be the best playmaker on the field. The media often confuses the two.

And I think it plays a big part why they have failed to clinch it 4 years straight.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yep. Same old story. I love the Cowboys, but the rose colored glasses are too much sometimes.

c'mon Eddie, compared to most of the post count on here, you'll find very few who wear rose-colored glasses

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yeah, but you could argue that Bledsoe has had better options than McNabb has had.

McNabb has had 1 year of T.O. 1.5 years; actually. And then the likes of Pinkston and co.

Bledsoe has had Terry Glenn, Ben Coates, Eric Moulds, Peerless Price, Terry Glenn again, Keyshawn Johnson, Jason Witten, and now Owens.

Bledsoe made Peerless Price

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think Bledsoe would have traded some of those revievers for a decent O-lineman or two. He's played behind some of the worst lines in recent memory in Buffalo and Dallas.

Not to mention McNabb plays in an offense where running the ball is the thing you do when McNabb's arm needs a rest.

I think he's better, but I would still take the mental side of Drew's game any day, and think Bledsoe would outproduce McNabb given the right weapons and blocking.

But short of that ideal situation, yeah I'd take McNabb. But not with that contract he has, no way.

I like how you incorporate both player's strenghts into the equation instead of going the all-out one-sided way

 

[Stash]

I think this statement is a bit unfair. Up till last year, McNappie was viewed as a very good leader by most. Bledsoe, not so much while in Buffalo. I think this is a relative statement. Time will tell if one seperates from the other but at this point, I don't think you can say that Bledsoe has proven himself to be a superior leader.

Sorry, but McNabb has never shown leadership abilities, last season's blowup merely brought the issue out in the open.

He's a "company man" who is one of the few players the Eagles have actually taken care of.

He sides with the team on all matters and his teammates know it.

McNabb has never shown leadership qualities and it has shown time and again on the NFL's biggest stage(s).

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Keyshawn's comments were simply about Delhomme. You are reading into it, I believe. Now, if what you say is true, well I can point to several examples where Johnson's mistakes lead to turnovers when Testeverde was here (the Cincinnati game for example) and I am sure he had his communication breakdowns with Bledsoe last year. I am not absolving Bledsoe of blame, but Johnson wasn't perfect either. Johnson may have drawn single coverage, but he often couldn't separate enough for Bledsoe to see and had to make separation when the ball was in the air.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

And no ability to escape the rush.

That is really my only hassel with the guy. The line has to be perfect vs. other QB's that can throw from the pocket, or escape the rush. He just can't do both.

the line doesn't have to be perfect, evidence last year with Flo, but it can't be crap, which Bledsoe has had to work w/ for most, if not all, of his career

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Bledsoe has played behind bad O-lines most of his career...

it's true though

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This is strange to me. The player best suited is going to produce the best numbers, the best result. It would seem that that player is McNappie.

how so when Bledsoe has Witten, TO and Glenn compared to Stinkston and Brown?

 

[lostinomiya]

leadership and scrambling are not shown on some of the stat stuff mentioned.

in my experience, on the stuff shown on the field, mcnabb can just make so much more happen than bledsoe...good arm, great scrambler, strong, a presence. i want bledsoe to be the better of the two but i need to stick my head in the sand to admit it.

the leadership stuff?....speculative.

 

[dargonking999]

Keyshawn's comments were simply about Delhomme. You are reading into it, I believe. Now, if what you say is true, well I can point to several examples where Johnson's mistakes lead to turnovers when Testeverde was here (the Cincinnati game for example) and I am sure he had his communication breakdowns with Bledsoe last year. I am not absolving Bledsoe of blame, but Johnson wasn't perfect either. Johnson may have drawn single coverage, but he often couldn't separate enough for Bledsoe to see and had to make separation when the ball was in the air.

MAybe i am reading into it, but I never said his thoughts were fair i was just saying maybe thats how he sees it. Key knows he missed alot of stuff, but i think he still feels Bledsoe made to many mistakes (IE PHili game 1 )

 

[wileedog]

the leadership stuff?....speculative.

After 3 straight Championship losses and a Super Bowl loss, and then a season where you get utterly exposed as not being a guy everyone is particularly behind or who can stand up to a teamate in his face, this falls more and more out of the realm of speculation.

Heck, lost in the all the TO hoopla last offseason was the small mini-controversy that McNabb decided not even to spend the offseason working out in Philly with the rest of the team. He stayed home and worked out with some of his buddies.

There's some leadership right there.

McNabb is doing and saying all the right things this year, but I think the horse is out of the barn.

 

[Mash]

If Bledsoe was so good.....

Why did he become available?......and I didn't hear teams screaming for his services...

McNabb is head and shoulders above Bledsoe.....McNabb makes players around him better.....Bledsoe needs players around him to succeed.

Ask any GM.......McNabb would be picked every single time by every single one of them.

Bledsoe is a fine QB....better years ago.....IMHO...i dont see much difference in what Bledsoe has done here to what Vinny and Carter did here and Bledsoe had more weapons and their OL were just as pathetic.

 

[cowboyfreak]

I'll add to that. The only fan site where Bledsoe would win this poll would be here.

looks like Momma's Wrong again!
McChoke is winning this poll...

Now on extremeskins this would be another story - where the Skins have the "bestest" players at every position.

 

[iceberg]

looks like Momma's Wrong again!
McChoke is winning this poll...

Now on extremeskins this would be another story - where the Skins have the "bestest" players at every position.

yea, you'd never see comparisons of skyler green to dante hall here or anything. hatcher to #1 draft picks...

never.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I'm sure sooner or later you knew that I would give my perspective ...so let's make this interesting and have some fun with it!

The question on the thread merely states ...Bledsoe or McNabb ...

if my response was what many of you expect me to say: D-Nabb

" " " " ... applied to experience in the NFL: Bleedsoe

" " " " ...as an Eagles Fan: D-Nabb

" " " " ...as a football Fan who will be in the HOF first: Bleedsoe

" " " " ...who's does the best soup commercials: D-Nabb

But on a serious response, I'd only pick McNabb because he can throw and run ...hence, making Him a double threat.

 

[kartr]

Depends, your talking about 1 year of for 5, as much as i hate to say it, Mcnabb, is younger so can play for some years, where as bledsoe is good now, but probalby will begin to fall apart after this year, or next

1-2 year: Bledsoe

4+ years : Mcnabb

McNabb is also the more complete qb and has carried a team for years, while Bledsoe can't get teams to the playoffs, even when he has good receivers and running backs, which he's had his whole career.

 

[iceberg]

But on a serious response, I'd only pick McNabb because he can throw and run ...hence, making Him a double threat.

oh hell, i'd take him just cause he CAN run...

 

[kartr]

McFlabb choked when it counted. Bledsoe seems to handle the pressure better. That is what matters.

Better to choke in the superbowl than to choke in the regular season. If you choke in the regular season, you don't go to the playoffs.