Bledsoe or Roethlisberger?

[RCowboyFan]

Joey harrington could have won a SB with the steelers Oline last year.

And he could have won during the Playoff run? Give me a freaking break if you think that, Harrington could have lead that team to a SB, when Pitt could barely run most of the time during playoffs, and they relied squarely on Ben being able to throw.

Either that or you didn't watch those games. Just looking at SB game alone, that would be a fallacy since he played his worst game in SB, besides without reps, Pitt wouldn't have won anyway, Big Ben or not.

 

[aikemirv]

I am really not syaing one way or the other.

Apples to Oranges if you ask me. Ben does not have enough history to show if he will be a great QB if his team is relying on him to throw 30 times a game and face constant pressure in doing so.

I will say this, after 5-7 years in the league I think Ben will be regarded much higher on a career basis than Bledsoes career will be regarded.

He has been broken in slowly and has a lot of talent and in the long run this will help his developement immensely. He will be a better all around QB than Bledsoe IMO.

 

[dwmyers]

Both Drew and Ben are both good quarterbacks, but Ben is much younger. Given a choice, I'd choose Ben.

David.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

9-21 123 yards and 2 Int's

He did not get it done in that game.

They won, but please don't tell me it was because of him.

What about his stats in the 2 games leading to the superbow how do they fit into your analysis. Just wondering because he won those games for his team.

 

[RCowboyFan]

It almost seems like ExtremeSkins board type of post, this thread. Homerism is ok, but really, this takes it to extreme. Its one thing to ask if you rather have Peyton or Big Ben, Carson Palmer or Big Ben etc. But really, Bledsoe better than Rothelisberger at this point? Rediculous statement.

 

[Kangaroo]

9-21 123 yards and 2 Int's

He did not get it done in that game.

They won, but please don't tell me it was because of him.

While Bledsoe was not much better
48 25 253 2 4

So dammed if you do dam if you don't

The funny part is Farve
27 14 246 2 0 (No int's and he has had plenty in his career)

 

[juck]

And he could have won during the Playoff run? Give me a freaking break if you think that, Harrington could have lead that team to a SB, when Pitt could barely run most of the time during playoffs, and they relied squarely on Ben being able to throw.

Either that or you didn't watch those games. Just looking at SB game alone, that would be a fallacy since he played his worst game in SB, besides without reps, Pitt wouldn't have won anyway, Big Ben or not.

I assume u mean REFS.I think the only reason Ben thrived in the passing dept. In those two games was because the opposing defenses didnt expect it at all.I will say he did play well.But he isnt all that,sorry.

 

[aikemirv]

I just think that it is very difficult to compare a guy who has been in the league 2 years to a guy like Bledsoe who has been in the league 10 years or so and then to put that 2 yr guy behind our OLine and say he would have done better than Bledsoe and would have been able to handle the repercussions of Pettiti and Tucker.

That is a very extremely difficult thing to judge IMO.

 

[RCowboyFan]

I assume u mean REFS.I think the only reason Ben thrived in the passing dept. In those two games was because the opposing defenses didnt expect it at all.I will say he did play well.But he isnt all that,sorry.

Yeah well, thats the same argument people use against Aikman. He isn't all that, and that any QB could have played like Aikman given the OL/RB/WRs etc.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

This whole thread is short-bus eligible.

And the people that has said they would prefer Bledsoe?

You have some serious issues.

 

[RCowboyFan]

This whole thread is short-bus eligible.

And the people that has said they would prefer Bledsoe?

You have some serious issues.

Really?

 

[Doomsday101]

I am really not syaing one way or the other.

Apples to Oranges if you ask me. Ben does not have enough history to show if he will be a great QB if his team is relying on him to throw 30 times a game and face constant pressure in doing so.

I will say this, after 5-7 years in the league I think Ben will be regarded much higher on a career basis than Bledsoes career will be regarded.

He has been broken in slowly and has a lot of talent and in the long run this will help his developement immensely. He will be a better all around QB than Bledsoe IMO.

I do agree with this. I'm not going to get in to this who is better but right now Pitt is not putting Ben in a situation of having to go out there and win the games. Pitt runs the ball stays out of long yardage situation and will use a lot of play action. Ben takes great advantage of it and is very good at what he is being asked to do. I don't know how Ben would fair if Pitt was asking him to out and play like Peyton Manning where they rely a lot more on the passing game.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

This whole thread is short-bus eligible.

And the people that has said they would prefer Bledsoe?

You have some serious issues.

Thank you sir I now have a new phrase to describe a lot of people that I come into contact with on a daily basis.

 

[Cochese]

Is this serious?

 

[Doomsday101]

For the record if I had to take one over the other I go with Ben in large part because I think his upside has not been reached as of yet. Having said that I don't know if we would have faired any better with Ben last season given the fact Dallas was not able to put any consistant running game on the field.

 

[CactusCowboy]

Your nuts! I would take Ben in a heartbeat.

 

[DragonCowboy]

For the record if I had to take one over the other I go with Ben in large part because I think his upside has not been reached as of yet. Having said that I don't know if we would have faired any better with Ben last season given the fact Dallas was not able to put any consistant running game on the field.

he asked who would you pick just for the year, so unless he reaches that upside this season its not really the kind of justification asked for. This is what I think alot of people are missing. This is just for next year, not for the career. I would definitely take Roeth's career over the rest of Bledsoe's career.

There are a few reasons why I would take Bledsoe over Roethlisberger.

1. Bledsoe understands Parcells' style of offense, and it'll be hard for Ben to get that down.

2. IMO, Bledsoe is better with the long ball. Our top two receivers, Terry Glenn and T.O. go more for the long ball. T.O. can catch any kind of ball, but you usually see him throw the mid- to long range. Terry Glenn on the other hand never catches short balls, so he would be more the long ball type.

Look at Big Ben's type of offense. Run the ball to get into short yardage positions, and throw a short pass for a first down, for the most part. With our ineffective running game, we would end up with 3rd and 9's, and IMO, Roethlisberger can't handle the long pass as well as Bledsoe...

 

[cbfan55]

DREW

 

[Doomsday101]

he asked who would you pick just for the year, so unless he reaches that upside this season its not really the kind of justification asked for. This is what I think alot of people are missing. This is just for next year, not for the career. I would definitely take Roeth's career over the rest of Bledsoe's career.

There are a few reasons why I would take Bledsoe over Roethlisberger.

1. Bledsoe understands Parcells' style of offense, and it'll be hard for Ben to get that down.

2. IMO, Bledsoe is better with the long ball. Our top two receivers, Terry Glenn and T.O. go more for the long ball. T.O. can catch any kind of ball, but you usually see him throw the mid- to long range. Terry Glenn on the other hand never catches short balls, so he would be more the long ball type.

Look at Big Ben's type of offense. Run the ball to get into short yardage positions, and throw a short pass for a first down, for the most part. With our ineffective running game, we would end up with 3rd and 9's, and IMO, Roethlisberger can't handle the long pass as well as Bledsoe...

I understand the question and if you could tell me today how the Cowboys running attack will fair this season I would have more of a clue as to who would fair the best this upcoming season. Unlike some I don't think the addition of TO will make Bill turn into Air Parcells I think our offense will still be one that will try to use the running game to set up the passing game. I think if we are forced to throw the ball 500 times like last season (actually 499) I think we will continue to have problems on offense. I just don't think the answer is as easy as the question. I should have added I think if Bill could get the same success running the ball as Pitt has had our offense would be very simular to what Pitt is doing

 

[DragonCowboy]

I understand the question and if you could tell me today how the Cowboys running attack will fair this season I would have more of a clue as to who would fair the best this upcoming season. Unlike some I don't think the addition of TO will make Bill turn into Air Parcells I think our offense will still be one that will try to use the running game to set up the passing game. I think if we are forced to throw the ball 500 times like last season (actually 499) I think we will continue to have problems on offense. I just don't think the answer is as easy as the question.

exactly, there are many variables going into this...

How will the running game fare? If it is like the Steelers', then I'll take Ben.

The only thing I would worry about is if Ben was here, Glenn would be lost. Ben isn't one to air it out as much as Bledsoe. That said, this all depends on what type of passing downs we'll have.

3rd and 2? I would prefer Big Ben
3rd and 15? I would prefer Bledsoe

There are just too many things to worry about, but with last year's Cowboys team and its less than phenomenal running game, I would take Drew in a heartbeat.