Blockbuster Trade: Dallas Stars land Tyler Seguin

[RastaRocket]

"There’s an opportunity to get a very good player, who’s a natural winger, and to get some good prospects and to lower your cap and then maybe to improve in the next market starting tomorrow," Chiarelli said on a conference call. "So … listen, I had some comments on Tyler at the draft regarding his professionalism and him acting like a professional. I prefaced that by saying he’s only 21 and he’ll figure it out.

"You know what you have to manage your team, you have to manage your players, you have to manage your cap, and that was part of the reason why we made this move."



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No cap involved in this decision.

 

[Vtwin]

Right, because Peverly is going to get "a good player, and prospects, at a lower cap hit in return". Peverly was part of the deal because Boston was trying to move him for cap but to think that Seguin's contract has NOTHING to do with cap is absolutely laughable. I really hope you don't think Seguin is the only player who likes to go out and party on that team.

As I said, it's a good trade for both teams. I don't get why everybody is so obsessed with shamming a 21 year old.

How the trade works out for both teams has yet to be seen.

I'm not obsessed with "shamming" anyone. I naively thought I would give you some insight from a Bruins fan who has closely followed the Bruins and Seguin for since the beginning of his pro career. I have no axe to grind with Seguin. I am very happy with the trade so there are no sour grapes there. I'm just calling it like I see it man.

You are a sports fan man. You know how the press conference doublespeak goes. What is Chia supposed to say? You have to admit he made a few references that seem to back up the "shamming". (Am I using that right?)

If they couldn't find anyone to take Peverly's contract they were probably going to buy him out.

Let me ask you this?

If the Bruins had thoughts of trading Seguin for cap relief why were they not shopping him at the trade deadline? He was having a terrible season. Had played himself down to the third line and was not helping the team win. Why wouldn't a contending team who was planning on moving him anyway, offer him up to get a package that would actually help the team on this run?

I'll answer that for you.
Because they had no intention at that time of moving him. He was being given his "shape up or ship out" chance at that time. Then he laid an egg in both the production and attitude departments in the rest of the regular season and the playoffs.

And then he was shipped out.


Of course he is not the only partier.

He's the only one that keeps having "alarm clock problems" and is called out by management and team leaders for "needing to become more of a pro".

 

[Vtwin]

No cap involved in this decision.

You know what you have to manage your team, you have to manage your players, you have to manage your cap, and that was part of the reason why we made this move."

Really?

 

[RastaRocket]

Really?

You missed the "you have to manage your cap" part.

You do realize that the cap is decreasing 7 million this season right? It has nothing to do with last years trade deadline. If nightlife was a major problem, then he'd be gone at the deadline.

 

[RastaRocket]

He was also traded for a player that was not having a good season last year in Dallas. So the "terrible season" excuse is pretty absurd, especially in a post lockout season where a lot of players had some struggles. He's just a young player who like any young player is not fully consistent yet. Chiarelli knows that.

 

[Vtwin]

You missed the "you have to manage your cap" part.

You do realize that the cap is decreasing 7 million this season right? It has nothing to do with last years trade deadline. If nightlife was a major problem, then he'd be gone at the deadline.

I saw that. Hence Peverly.
I also knew the cap was going down. So did Bruins management.

 

[Vtwin]

He was also traded for a player that was not having a good season last year in Dallas. So the "terrible season" excuse is pretty absurd, especially in a post lockout season where a lot of players had some struggles. He's just a young player who like any young player is not fully consistent yet. Chiarelli knows that.

Eriksson has consistent body of work. He played on a bad team last year. Seguin played on very good and very deep team. He lit it up in Europe during the lockout playing the more wide open game over there. Back here he had a hard time against the more physical and talented NHL teams.

He hopefully will become the consistent point producer he is capable of. The Bruins are in win now mode though. Sequin's inconsistent play and work ethic are what got him traded for consistent, top notch two way player who is better able to be counted on to contribute in the two or three year window this Bruins team has.

 

[RastaRocket]

You are probably the on

I saw that. Hence Peverly.
I also knew the cap was going down. So did Bruins management.

Ah righ, Peverly's contract created cap room although it is $1 mil less than Eriksson. This trade happened because Boston was able to get a player who is a natural winger with a CAP friendly contract. A large part of Eriksson's high trade value comes from his cap friendly contract + production. Seguins $5.75 mil cap hit is what allowed the trade to happen and free up cap room. I can't believe you actually think this move had nothing to do with cap. Out of the hundreds of Bruins fans opinions I have read on the deal you are probably the only one who can't recognize that. Even Chiarelli said that the $7 mil cap decrease forced him to make tough decisions when asked about Seguin!

This deal happened because two perfect teams matched for a swap, not because Chiarelli was trying his hardest to dump Seguin for sucking and partying.

 

[RastaRocket]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...allas-stars/ixldsYbV3PqwZfyqhWJIsI/story.html

Some more explaining for you.

 

[Vtwin]

Sure thing bro.

 

[TheCowboy]

As a Stars fan I would rather have Seguin. He's only 21, what is to lose? I liked Loui but he was disappointing last year. I can't wait for the season to begin. Finally it's no longer depressing watching the Stars!

 

[DenverBroncosFan83]

Wish my Av's would have made that trade! We just sign former goaltenders as head coaches to fans in the seats.

 

[RastaRocket]