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Who said he was?

I think it's a large leap in faith to think that Romo will perform better mainly because of his injuries and age.

And I think it puts Tony in a no-win situation to automatically make him the starter. For once this organization can stop putting Tony in difficult situations.

Meanwhile, we can give Dak more meaningful experience to not only help us win this year, but next year as well.

And this coming from a guy that is generally very much against rookie QB's starting. But Dak has shown that he's familiar with the speed of the game, has the throwing mechanics down, reads defenses well and his only deficiencies will improve with more game experience.

And he's the 2nd most efficient QB in the league right now with a 5-game win streak.

"Never mess with a winning streak.' - Crash Davis



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He was extremely inaccurate this past game. His saving grace was he wasn't throwing it high. His inconsistency in that speaks to me of someone who has not mastered mechanics and frankly given his history this should be no surprise.

No win situation? If the team wins with Tony as QB then your fearmongering is all for naught. And lets be clear here: you are making a decision because you are afraid of what might happen. It's playing not to lose. I reject that approach.

Now you're quoting movies quotes? Kevin Costner one at that? It's fiction, Rich, you do understand that right?
 

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I'll repeat. Whomever was QBing this team from 2007 until now has not been good enough to go to the NFC Championship game. It doesn't matter who, doesn't matter why, they just can't get it done. You can roll out all the stats in history, the this the that, they've not been good enough, INCLUDING the QB. Now those are facts.

You do understand that what I wrote rebuts that directly don't you?
 

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He was extremely inaccurate this past game. His saving grace was he wasn't throwing it high. His inconsistency in that speaks to me of someone who has not mastered mechanics and frankly given his history this should be no surprise.

No win situation? If the team wins with Tony as QB then your fearmongering is all for naught. And lets be clear here: you are making a decision because you are afraid of what might happen. It's playing not to lose. I reject that approach.

Now you're quoting movies quotes? Kevin Costner one at that? It's fiction, Rich, you do understand that right?
Romo has thrown 117 INT in his career. 19 in 2012. He threw 9 in 2014 and 7 in 4 games in 2015. In 2015, Romo was basically trash. Somehow, we're expecting him to be Tom Brady when he comes back. Okay
 

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Romo has thrown 117 INT in his career. 19 in 2012. He threw 9 in 2014 and 7 in 4 games in 2015. In 2015, Romo was basically trash. Somehow, we're expecting him to be Tom Brady when he comes back. Okay
Basically trash, yet had the same record as what Dak had through 4 games despite facing far superior opponents as a whole. I hear based on the record alone, aka momentum, Dak should be the starter. Logic does not compute.
 

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As for what the thread was originally about, Dak had a 133 rating in what this blogger called "a bad 1st half."

As for what the thread has become, I'm squarely on the fence, because I don't doubt that Romo could possibly do better. After all, he's been a Top 5 QB in this league for years, and Prescott's just a rookie. We don't know for sure that Romo is in decline, or that he will just get injured again. But then, we don't know for sure that he isn't, or that he won't. And there's nothing short of his return (and time) that will answer that question. If the knock against him is rust, playing him is the only remedy.

It's silly to nitpick the play of a QB who's become the first rookie with five games over a 100 rating in his first six. That doesn't mean the glass slipper won't fall off, though. It still might. There's nothing short of letting him play (and time) that will answer that question. If the knock against him is that he's unproven against great defenses, playing him is the only remedy.

If the coaches think it's worth the risk of stopping Dak's roll to give Romo a shot with this offense, that's what's going to happen. It's going to be difficult to improve on 2.74 points per drive though. And we saw how fast this offense can score -- when it wants to score fast.
 

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If the staff sees fit to go with Romo, I'll be on board with it and support him 100%.
 

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Romo has thrown 117 INT in his career. 19 in 2012. He threw 9 in 2014 and 7 in 4 games in 2015. In 2015, Romo was basically trash. Somehow, we're expecting him to be Tom Brady when he comes back. Okay
So basically the only winning stat you'really going to run with is Dak has only thrown 1 pick. Romo also threw 3 times the TDs Dak is projected to throw, in his last full season, but that is somehow not applicable. Got it.
 

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So basically the only winning stat you'really going to run with is Dak has only thrown 1 pick. Romo also threw 3 times the TDs Dak is projected to throw, in his last full season, but that is somehow not applicable. Got it.
I'll say it again, if the staff decides to go with Romo, I'll support him 100% and won't defile everything wrong he does like you guys who hate Dak.
 

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Didn't want to create a new thread for this, but this is what the NFL twitterverse is saying.

Kinda divided like the fan base.

In the Dak corner, basically it's the stay with the hot hand. No real argument as to who is the better QB. Most believe Romo is the better QB. But why stop the train.

In Romo's corner, they're saying 1) if Dak can perform like that as a rookie, then imagine what an arguably top 5 QB like Romo could do. 2) a new argument was presented today re: the psyche of Dak. Basically, it would be better for his development to sit him while he's on a high vs after a poor performance.
 

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People are buying too much into the media hype that doesn't actually care if the Cowboys win ultimately. They just want something to talk about, and this rookie is it at the moment.

He had a terrible game that the defense and running game helped keep us above water. A better game by the Packers and we lose this badly. People hand the W to Dak, but it was the defense that won this game and Elliott running for over 150 yards... Dak put himself back together in the second half, but if we were down 14 or 21 points because of his mistakes... I don't see him climbing back up. The run would have been abandoned and without Dez Bryant, a one-dimensional passing game funneling through Beasley would have been shut down quickly.
By your same logic "if" Butler doesn't drop that long bomb then Dak doesn't throw the interception and we blow green bay out even more. It feels like you have an agenda against Dak or not being consistent which is unusual for you. I normally agree with you but I respectfully disagree on this. Dak may not have had his best day against a bad Packers team but by the same token they didn't catch Dak at his best either. Dak is going to have his low points just like Romo and EVERY other qb in the league. The good news is that Dak recovered and was good enough to win by a large margin.
 

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Romo has thrown 117 INT in his career. 19 in 2012. He threw 9 in 2014 and 7 in 4 games in 2015. In 2015, Romo was basically trash. Somehow, we're expecting him to be Tom Brady when he comes back. Okay

You just showed a trend of improvement outside of last year. We can discuss the issues he had including a poor running game and injury if you like.
 

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As for what the thread was originally about, Dak had a 133 rating in what this blogger called "a bad 1st half."

As for what the thread has become, I'm squarely on the fence, because I don't doubt that Romo could possibly do better. After all, he's been a Top 5 QB in this league for years, and Prescott's just a rookie. We don't know for sure that Romo is in decline, or that he will just get injured again. But then, we don't know for sure that he isn't, or that he won't. And there's nothing short of his return (and time) that will answer that question. If the knock against him is rust, playing him is the only remedy.

It's silly to nitpick the play of a QB who's become the first rookie with five games over a 100 rating in his first six. That doesn't mean the glass slipper won't fall off, though. It still might. There's nothing short of letting him play (and time) that will answer that question. If the knock against him is that he's unproven against great defenses, playing him is the only remedy.

If the coaches think it's worth the risk of stopping Dak's roll to give Romo a shot with this offense, that's what's going to happen. It's going to be difficult to improve on 2.74 points per drive though. And we saw how fast this offense can score -- when it wants to score fast.

You can post the rating as much as you like but he was consistently throwing behind and low. His receivers made a lot of tough catches and had to slow down to make those completions. He left a lot of yards on the field before you consider the fumbles which are not factored into rating at all.
 

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You just showed a trend of improvement outside of last year. We can discuss the issues he had including a poor running game and injury if you like.
Like always, I'll let the proof prove itself. I said 5 years ago that Romo would accomplish nothing, so far I'm right. So we'll let this play out and then we'll talk again after he's retired.
 

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You can post the rating as much as you like but he was consistently throwing behind and low. His receivers made a lot of tough catches and had to slow down to make those completions. He left a lot of yards on the field before you consider the fumbles which are not factored into rating at all.
Okay Fuzzy.
 

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Some people will find something wrong with anything. It's in there nature. They just want to be heard. They will tell you the sky is green when it's blue. Romo is the better QB at this stage. And he should be at this stage. But, you have team chemistry with Dak in at QB. And you just don't mess with team chemistry. Some people just don't understand the importance of Sports Psychology. Put Romo back in and the team better NOT lose. When or if he does.....very good chance you divide this team. Dak is going to have bad games...for some of you that are waiting for that. But Romo had many bad games as well. As of RIGHT NOW.....it's the kid's team now. Let him play. Let's watch him grow. And let's see where this ride takes us. The future looks bright. Embrace it. And quit fighting it!
 

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You are right. Romo has never been all over the place.

Oh wait...That was how he was the last time he took regular season snaps. 5 TDS and 7 picks in 2015 = the definition of all over the place.


You aren't too bright, are you?

What does Romo have to do with my post? I was commenting on Dak, since, well, he was the one who was playing.
 

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He was extremely inaccurate this past game. His saving grace was he wasn't throwing it high. His inconsistency in that speaks to me of someone who has not mastered mechanics and frankly given his history this should be no surprise.

No win situation? If the team wins with Tony as QB then your fearmongering is all for naught. And lets be clear here: you are making a decision because you are afraid of what might happen. It's playing not to lose. I reject that approach.

Now you're quoting movies quotes? Kevin Costner one at that? It's fiction, Rich, you do understand that right?

He was somewhat inaccurate in the Green Bay game. He was more erratic than anything. As he had some extremely accurate throws that Romo simply can't make. The throws to Butler (the TD and the drop) were right on the money and not easy throws to make.

It's a no-win situation for Romo because if he plays well and the team loses...even if it's not Romo's fault...everybody is going to blame Romo. And if they play fairly well and make the playoffs and lose in the playoffs...they'll say that they could have done better if they kept Dak as the starter.

The only winning situation is if Romo comes in and wins the Super Bowl. Not much to ask, right?

And never messing with a winning streak is an old saying, good lord.

I must be 'playing not to lose' with a QB that is 5-1, is the 2nd most efficient QB in the league that has played a large role in having the best run offense in the game and the 2nd most efficient offense in the game.





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Romo has thrown 117 INT in his career. 19 in 2012. He threw 9 in 2014 and 7 in 4 games in 2015. In 2015, Romo was basically trash. Somehow, we're expecting him to be Tom Brady when he comes back. Okay

LOL what an embarrassing job at trying to cherry-pick a stat.

Romo has the same career INT% as Peyton, Montana and Young and much better than a lot of HOFers so it wasn't even a nice try.

You're so blinded by this whole QB thing it's ridicules. 98% of fans just want us to win no matter who the QB is but you just want Romo run out of town and you get crushed on a daily basis for just being a bad fan more than anything else.

Again - embarrassing.
 

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LOL what an embarrassing job at trying to cherry-pick a stat.

Romo has the same career INT% as Peyton, Montana and Young and much better than a lot of HOFers so it wasn't even a nice try.

You're so blinded by this whole QB thing it's ridicules. 98% of fans just want us to win no matter who the QB is but you just want Romo run out of town.

Again - embarrassing.
I don't want Romo run out of town, I want a Super Bowl. If Romo can bring it, great. I just don't think he has it in him, the facts bare this.
 
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