Blue/Trigg unique skillsets but maturity concerns

We can live with any off field concerns as long as the talent on the field is worthy. Up to the players.
 



“Honestly, it was about my early years at college at USC and Ole Miss, my immaturity stuff,” he said. “As you grow older, you get more mature. Just being around the right people, Sawyer Robertson and the other people at Baylor, really helped mold me into the person I am today.”


“Last year, me and Sawyer started doing bible study during the season. That led to us being closer, just understanding how he thinks and him understanding how I think. I would say that I’m more quiet, more reserved. But being in those small groups, it’s only about three people so you have to say something.”
 
Cowboyny said:
It is really up to Blue to become a professional on and off the field. His skillset is a perfect complement to Williams power running game. He also has the ability to be dangerous as a pass catcher in space. He could take that next step or be off the roster shortly, really up to him.
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Also, any RB that can’t pickup blitzers isn’t gonna see the field much
 
speedkilz88 said:



“Honestly, it was about my early years at college at USC and Ole Miss, my immaturity stuff,” he said. “As you grow older, you get more mature. Just being around the right people, Sawyer Robertson and the other people at Baylor, really helped mold me into the person I am today.”


“Last year, me and Sawyer started doing bible study during the season. That led to us being closer, just understanding how he thinks and him understanding how I think. I would say that I’m more quiet, more reserved. But being in those small groups, it’s only about three people so you have to say something.”
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Wow, this gives me some hope. If he’s truly matured, or at least keeps working in it, we may have something special.
 
jball said:
Total agree,stupid trying to finesse a run play and injure your wr1.
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That's not what I really said there are a lot of teams that run that same play in the same manner i'm just saying in this particular situation just like when you at the beginning use des and CD and other guys in special teams and returning punts and kicks you stop doing that eventually And while I understand why they were doing it with Turpin and Lamb we now have other players on this team that can fill those roles and they should that's the only reason I'm saying it but you if you think Brian Schottenheimer is the only one that has that in their offense you have not been watching the NFL...

Both teams absolutely have that in their playbook If if anybody hasn't said this before and maybe you've heard it and you know it but I'm just gonna say it again there isn't a lot of difference from the last 20 years in offenses it's just a way there changed with the formations and disguises and motion but a lot of the plays are stock plays they're still in there all those plays have been in there for a very long time..

How much do you choose to use them if not at all but lots of teams I see them all the time there's not much difference between using your receivers in an end around or motions Reverse double reverses what's the difference they're still running the ball starting from behind the line of scrimmage but also the little short screen passes they're still a runner they're still running back so you missed my point i'm just saying at juncture of this offense with this lineup we have you can just take those away now unless it's a special trick play in a moment where maybe someone's not expecting it..

Because I've already heard those who think that Lamb got hurt and they blame Brian Schottenheimer or when Turpin got banged up they blame Brian Sottenheimer but that's absolutely ridiculous all teams utilize that play at some point and like I said all those other normal stock plays why do we not have a problem with that those are all making the receiver be a runner..
 
DarkVader33 said:
Wow, this gives me some hope. If he’s truly matured, or at least keeps working in it, we may have something special.
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Well I don't really know a lot about him I don't watch that much college ball anymore especially Baylor wherever he came from But what I understand he has top five talent they just need to get it out of him much like Blue last year who had some problems adapting to making it on time to meetings when they ask you to draw out plays do you understand the play running it correctly at full speed and practice you know doing whatever they're asking you as a Pro is a lot different in college and if you already were having immaturity problems thinking your BMOC but when you arrive with the Dallas Cowboys you're starting from scratch and until you come to an understanding with yourself that you are just an amoeba that better do everything you can to make this roster and get the coaches attention Well you're probably not going to make it..

Think at the end of the year blue was figuring that out and I think that this guy has that kind of talent you just have to take a little longer developing some of these guys because they have to learn the little things before they can get back on the football field and do the things they think they're great at..
 
Rayman70 said:
We can live with any off field concerns as long as the talent on the field is worthy. Up to the players.
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But the concerns cannot continue and become a reality because I think Blue figured that out last year this isn't Texas It's not the Longhorns it's not college you're not getting away with the stuff you got in high school in college you're starting from scratch you're starting at low end of the totem pole and you're going to work your **** off to get on the field The people above you already paid that dude just like Rico and Davis they're finally getting their come ups..

Will not get your opportunities on the field if you don't do the rest of it correctly...
 
I haven’t seen anything definitive as to exactly what Blue’s problem is. It certainly isn’t talent when the ball is in his hands.

I’ve heard it all suggested….maturity, fumble issues, can’t pass protect, etc…..it all just seems like guesses.

The light going on for him could be huge for the team. Williams and what Blue ought to be would be a nice combo. Davis as depth. That’s works, but it’s really up to Blue. They aren’t going to find some home run threat for the backfield out of nowhere. It’s either Blue or we don’t have that player.
 
Reality said:
Williams is a bruiser but he runs with authority and upright power where many power running backs lean too far forward and lose their center of gravity.

While he may not be a homerun threat burst wise, he's still quite capable of solid speed while fending off tackles.

That said, it was noticeable last year when Malik Davis entered the game as the speed shifted up a couple of levels immediately.

While I am not saying Malik Davis is ever going to be a star runningback, he did show last year he can be a homerun threat.

I want to see Blue succeed, but so far he has not lived up to the fan hype I have been hearing about since he was drafted.

I hope that changes this year, but until it happens, I think the Cowboys need to be looking for an upgrade either internally or externally.
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Its funny people often say he's not a homerun threat (and i'm not disagreeing with you), but I did a post a while back where his long run rate last year was like similar or maybe slightly better than peak year Zeke.

To me it says more about Zeke and him being overrated behind an actualy generational (overused term) line by the fanbase than Williams, so your point there may still be valid...just interesting how we can overvalue our own guys in some instances.
 
vlad said:
Its funny people often say he's not a homerun threat (and i'm not disagreeing with you), but I did a post a while back where his long run rate last year was like similar or maybe slightly better than peak year Zeke.

To me it says more about Zeke and him being overrated behind an actualy generational (overused term) line by the fanbase than Williams, so your point there may still be valid...just interesting how we can overvalue our own guys in some instances.
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I think Williams is a better runner than Zeke was because as I have mentioned many times over the last few years, Zeke had a bad habit of leaning forward too early and too much so that he could get that extra 1-3 yards after contact. Williams runs more upright and with a much better center of gravity than Zeke had which keeps the play alive longer.

That was great of course for Zeke because it helped gain first downs on 3rd and short and helped reduce runs for a loss. The downside is it also killed a lot of long runs he would have had because any hand swipe or contact with a player on the ground more often led to him face planting a few yards later.

I agree with you that I think Williams can be a homerun hitter too. He's just not the traditional hit-the-hole-fast-and-hes-off guy. Instead, he's more of a cannot-bring-down-so-keeps-running guy, and I personally would rather have the latter, which he is.
 
I saw the interview with Trigg. I think he will be ok. Not being drafted makes him see that he needs to work hard to make it in the NFL, so hopefuly he won't miss meetings like he did in college. Who isn't a bit immature before age 23, if we are being honest. Love to see him tap that potential here in Dallas.
 
Unless they turn Michael into a full time wideout, I don’t see it happening with him.
 
Tangle_Foot said:
The big play potential is there for both, each have their own hurdles to clear but the talents there. I'm ready for the new Triggonometry, any angle you use to get open is the right angle ;)
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Trigg needs to work on his hands. He had a lot of drops but he has a huge catch radius, blie mostly needs to grow up. This is a huge camp for blue
 
BobSacamano said:
Unless they turn Michael into a full time wideout, I don’t see it happening with him.
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This isn't the first time I've seen this comment. But I still have no idea why anyone would think this. He's 6-4 240 that is legitimate TE size. He even commented that LBs cannot cover him.
 
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