Bob McGinn scouts comments on Mazi Smith

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I hope Michigan doesn't send us another Taco Charlton...........................
so now all MI is is taco and Drew Henson that it never draft from MI ever again.,., never nope 200+ years of school history, 2 players fail, red flags in all drafts now for MI.. like the athetosis draft all DBS from LSU is DBU,,ooops didn't work out with MO C once, now never do anther DB from LSU. fans luv to be critics and believe the names on their lists are correct and no way a pro scouting department, DC, and a HC can get it right? tyler was project huh? Parsons was a off ball LB drafted too high and had maturity issues,,, CEEDEE lamb wasnt needed. Fans just need to shut up with the preconceived bust notions.
 

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Who said he was a pass rusher in College? I do think a lot of what we have heard about him playing a little less of the pure clogging the middle, flat footed, playing the run as his first, second and third priority, mentality will show off a little more run penetration and possibly pass rush ability. He has elite athletic ability for his size. But, he is coming here to help the run defense and for a NT that doesn't even mean he personally needs to make the tackle. This helps our entire defense and in particular our LBs who too often get stuck to blocks and blown out at the second level by OL or forced to take bad angles in the muck and get themselves sealed off. This should lessen all of those things.

Most football fans understand a NT isn't graded based on stats. Apparently some other don't
He had 20+ pressures including 3 versus CJ Stroud.
He isn't going to chase down modern athletic QBs but he does hurry them.
Dallas will be more than fine if he occupies an OL and prevents a QB stepping up into pocket.
The edge rush is nasty and on time most every play.

He is very athletic with shuttle scores that would have been good for 2nd best in last year's draft.
He has good quickness and movement skill. He is not an immovable object but he is also nobodies pushover.
Yes, Zack Martin level OGs will handle him but that means they aren't helping on Micah or DLaw.
And explains why both those guys LOVE the pick.
 

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They'll just double him in the A Gap.

He wont be chasing anyone down.
What are you even responding too? Who said anything about chasing anyone down?

And who else on our team requires a double other than possibly a veteran minimum, aging Hankins who will be gone after this year? Now do the math on the blocking assignments vs the rest of the D if he requires a double and not a help and release to the next level type of block and maybe you'll understand what his value is. Plus if they one gap him at times which they likely will his athletic ability alone will lead to getting more penetration and combined with his power should be able to get a push up the middle and let our outside rushers be more effective as the QB can't just step up. Lastly we now have two big space eating hole cloggers for short yardage situations and there is talk of him taking snaps as a 3 tech too at times. While that seems a little bit of a reach we know the way Quinn throws different looks at an Offense meshes well with this idea in certain packages. This team can go get the QB and can turn the ball over. What we can't do is stop the run consistently enough. That is the reason for this pick. You seem too hung up about what he will get in the way of tackles and the such and not realizing how his presence will make others make more plays. Our LBs for years have been caught in the muck, sealed off and been unable to get free of OL at the second level. But, they have done well moving laterally and chasing plays down when free of blocks. Unfortunately that's seldom been the case. The idea is that now it will be.
 

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The pick is just whatever for me.

Doesn’t do anything for this team. We’re the same as we were this time yesterday.
Boom! Just like I predicted. You were going to crap on the pick no matter who it was. Just like you do every year.
 

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They refused a BPA that could be used for a bigger trade in the future or as a replacement for Dak Prescott who isn't exactly a young guy anymore. They tossed a lot of value for a reach.
So draft someone in the first round who isn’t going to play :lmao2:
 

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The pick is just whatever for me.

Doesn’t do anything for this team. We’re the same as we were this time yesterday.
I’m not sure how you see that when our starting DTs are basically average at best. Besides Haskins part time play, we had no DT who could require a double team to run the ball. I think this improves our defense, will make our LBers better, and helps us in short yardage and goalline
 

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klancy most likely was their target and Mazi was their 2nd ranked NT/IDL.. they took him.

most fans are most upset because philly got Smith because we passed on him, I get that but IDC what philly does on paper.. all those moves they made last year didn't ,make them better then us by a slim margin.. actually, overall RS, we had 4.4 YPC and 9 tds given up they had 4.6 and 15. names mean nothing. TEAM Play comes into this and if Mazi fit the rotation and helps our TEAM defense thats that matters, not names on the backs of jerseys from big schools.

. I really do not care. also look at the run on DL in the first round.. wasn't going to be any of note left in the 2nd, heck wasn't the 4 of the last 5 picks after the DC all DL?? be if we didn't take him hes gone before 32.

we can judge these moves in 3 years..
 

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I watched about half of this and saw him getting little penetration and almost every play he got stood up. Plays too high IMO.

I am pretty trusting of McClay and DQ though. Wish our 1st rounder wasn't someone needing to be coached up. I wanted a plug and play OL. but a weakness was addressed.

Patience young Luke !
He seems to play low during run downs, and high on passing downs. That can be fixed. He made some big plays this game, and on others he made mistakes, was gassed, or was double and triple teamed out of the play. I hope they double team him in the NFL. That leaves lanes for your LB's and Safeties to pounce. He's not perfect, but he's still young. If Dan Quinn adds some tools to his bag, and cleans up his pad level he'll be hell on 2 feet. To be fair, that's one game being posted. Watch some others. There's plenty to be excited about. Maybe we'll get lucky and land the guy who gave him trouble in this game.
 

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You don
I just don’t believe in drafting run stuffers and such with premium picks.

If you put him on the field against the 9ers last year we still lose that game.
You don’t know that! Niners ran it down our throats on a 3rd quarter scoring drive.
Maybe that doesn’t happen with Mazi!

If your biggest need is a run stuffer, and he is the highest rated guy on your board of course you take him.

What did you want? A TE when we already have 2 good young TE’s.
 

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Yeah, getting a talented DT doesn't change anything.

Some of you post some ridiculous crap just because you latched onto a single player in the draft.
I’d be all for a guy that sheds blocks and gets on the QB.

But this guy? Meh..
 

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The scout literally wrote that he “doesn’t think he’s a good athlete”

Ok buddy. When every other scout says he is and when all the objective measures also say he is. But we will take your word for it.
When alot of the scouts are pointing to more negatives its not just a single opinion.

I like him just not nowhere near 26. Jur going to draft a 2 down dt, who probably will be in the 2nd rotation, because unless he shows out, he's not starting over Hankins. Hopefully he can soak up some of what Hankins is throwing out there.

From what I get is he's a big guy who doesn't have much technique, but uses his size and speed. He doesn't shed block real good, and scouts have concerns about his want to give it all for a full game.

If they were going dl I would've rather had murphy or Nolan. Atleast they provide more than just defending the run. Rather had a guy like Dexter later.

It is what it is, and it's just eh.
 

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When alot of the scouts are pointing to more negatives its not just a single opinion.

I like him just not nowhere near 26. Jur going to draft a 2 down dt, who probably will be in the 2nd rotation, because unless he shows out, he's not starting over Hankins. Hopefully he can soak up some of what Hankins is throwing out there.

From what I get is he's a big guy who doesn't have much technique, but uses his size and speed. He doesn't shed block real good, and scouts have concerns about his want to give it all for a full game.

If they were going dl I would've rather had murphy or Nolan. Atleast they provide more than just defending the run. Rather had a guy like Dexter later.

It is what it is, and it's just eh.

You draft a player based on what they’ll bring years from now. Not just this year.

A couple of years of conditioning and professional coaching. He is gonna be a beast IMO
 

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You draft a player based on what they’ll bring years from now. Not just this year.

A couple of years of conditioning and professional coaching. He is gonna be a beast IMO
You don't think Nolan Smith will be giving you more his rookie yr and 5yrs from now?

I understand what they want to do and that's shoring up the run defense, but imo there's was better talent there. More production.

What I think this does too, is kinda cements in Steele at LG imo.

This kinda looks like a McCarthy pick. Kinda remind be a Raji for GB
 

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Absolutely. However, what you're missing is that making sure your middle is solid is part of stopping the pass. Unfortunately, Jerry doesn't understand this. Maybe that's changing.
Seems like some fans don't understand this either
 

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Seems like some fans don't understand this either
I dare you to go look at game logs after Hankins was traded 4. They had 2 bad run def games from that point on. Vs jags. And VA Washington. But it took them over 40 carries to get it. After that Dallas shut down the run.

If they want to play him with Hankins on 1st and 2nd down I'd love this pick. How they play it we will see.

The last game Dallas played they shut down probably the best running team in the nfl after the eagles.
 

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I dare you to go look at game logs after Hankins was traded 4. They had 2 bad run def games from that point on. Vs jags. And VA Washington. But it took them over 40 carries to get it. After that Dallas shut down the run.

If they want to play him with Hankins on 1st and 2nd down I'd love this pick. How they play it we will see.

The last game Dallas played they shut down probably the best running team in the nfl after the eagles.
We didn't look great against the Giants either. And against the Eagles, when our D needed to stop the run they literally allowed almost every single yard to come on the ground for the game winning TD.
 
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