Bob McGinn scouts comments on Mazi Smith

[CowboyRoy]

Yes all 32 teams have a guy that play 1T, but they don't matter. Super Bowl winners are built to throw the ball and stop the pass. That's it.

You are being sarcastic right?

 

[Miller]

Mazi was BPA.

I swear, you guys just fall in love w/ proclaiming "BPA". I don't think most even understand what it means.

I'm not sure why you are grouping me. I wanted Oline...not sexy either. So how did I fall in love with BPA when most here chanting it all week? All I'm saying is all week long most here kept saying "we covered ourselves in FA we can take any stud we want." Now that we took pure need with someone who many didn't expect it changed completely. The kid might be great but my problem is every report said he was athletic but didn't have a motor and needed work using his skills. To me that is project like. I didn't think the Cowboys from the war room were just looking to run the card in. I'm assuming there was a lot of discussion. As I said earlier, it's been a long time since I was not sure on a first rounder we took...probably Taco...but I am reserving judgement. I also don't trust Jerry with "we had him 13 or 14" when they had only 11 first round grades. The positive is Quinn is here and he can coach him up.

 

[kskboys]

Yes all 32 teams have a guy that play 1T, but they don't matter. Super Bowl winners are built to throw the ball and stop the pass. That's it.

Absolutely. However, what you're missing is that making sure your middle is solid is part of stopping the pass. Unfortunately, Jerry doesn't understand this. Maybe that's changing.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yes all 32 teams have a guy that play 1T, but they don't matter. Super Bowl winners are built to throw the ball and stop the pass. That's it.

Yet the Eagles lost to the Chiefs because they couldn’t stop Mahomes and Pacheco running the ball.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

That is some strange stuff. You're calling things a myth that are blatantly true.

Just because you weren't paying attention, it does not follow that Reader wasn't good in Houston. After his 2019 season(his last w/ Houston), Reader was rated as the 4th best NT in the game.

You really should rethink calling something a myth that is blatantly true.

I didn't say he wasn't good in Houston, I said he wasn't as disruptive.

4th best NT, whatever that means, is not something worth investing in.

I like Reader, but he's not a player you get good value out of by investing draft capital or significant resources into.

 

[DuncanIso]

The pick is just whatever for me.

Doesn’t do anything for this team. We’re the same as we were this time yesterday.

Mazi looks like a 2nd day pick.

 

[kskboys]

I'm not sure why you are grouping me. I wanted Oline...not sexy either. So how did I fall in love with BPA when most here chanted it all week? All I'm saying is all week long most here kept saying "we covered ourselves in FA we can take any stud we want." Now that we took pure need with someone who many didn't expect it changed completely. The kid might be great but my problem is every report said he was athletic but didn't have a motor and needed work using his skills. To me that is project like. I didn't think the Cowboys from the war room were just looking to run the card in. I'm assuming there was a lot of discussion.

I agree w/ a lot of what you're saying. I'm not sure about this pick at all. Scary.

However, you did say we should've gone BPA. Smith was BPA.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Absolutely. However, what you're missing is that making sure your middle is solid is part of stopping the pass. Unfortunately, Jerry doesn't understand this. Maybe that's changing.

Sure. You don't need a big, 2-down 1T to be solid don the middle.

Offenses love when those guys are on the field, because you don't have to worry about them as passrushers.

 

[Kolemmitt]

I just don’t believe in drafting run stuffers and such with premium picks.

If you put him on the field against the 9ers last year we still lose that game.

Probably not, but he may make the difference against the Eagles.

 

[ChuckA1]

Funny thing is, Mazi may not get a lot of sacks, but by pushing the OL, he'll take away the safe pocket for the QB. That way, Micah and company will get more opportunities.

 

[CATCH17]

Mazi looks like a 2nd day pick.

Me too.

They got him so it’s whatever. Dallas odds of winning anything didn’t change with that pick at all.

We need a player to carry Dak.

 

[CowboyRoy]

They didn't run all over anybody in either year lol. They hit an end around to Deebo in 2021, but other than that had 36 for 142...less than 4 ypc.

For crying out loud, they haven't even had 350 total yards in either game. People act like they had 250 yards rushing and scored 35 points.

If you give up 23 or 19 points in an NFL game and lose, the fault is with your offense 100%.

Buddy they had 170 yards rushing and 2 TD's against us two years ago. We simply couldnt stop them running down our throats. Niners are just bigger and tougher than we are on both sides of the ball. Its why they continue to kick our AZZ.

But hey, they suck right? LOL

 

[kskboys]

I didn't say he wasn't good in Houston, I said he wasn't as disruptive.

4th best NT, whatever that means, is not something worth investing in.

I like Reader, but he's not a player you get good value out of by investing draft capital or significant resources into.

And at the same time, he was a huge part of Cincy's super bowl run. Man, you gotta start paying attention. Reader was very disruptive in Houston.

4th best NT means he's top 5. I mean, are you deliberately being obtuse?

 

[DuncanIso]

That doesn't make any sense. Yes it is boring to take this type of player and yes we all have our own opinions on each player that was available. I can see someone saying they don't like the pick or that they liked other guys more, but to say drafting a NT that the team likes enough to make a first round pick, even if you don't like him, "doesn't do anything for this team" is bizarre if you have watched this team at all the last few years.

Mazi isn't a pash rusher. 0.5 sacks in 30 games. 6 tackles for loss.

He'll get some snaps in the DT rotation. 25-30?

Thats about 30 tackles for the season.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Yet the Eagles lost to the Chiefs because they couldn’t stop Mahomes and Pacheco running the ball.

They couldn't stop the run because they had to play soft, 7-man coverages because they couldn't generate a passrush with 4 or cover anybody in man.

Mahomes running around making plays with his legs isn't anything a 1T stops. Pacheco was pretty pedestrian outside of 1 carry anyway.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

And at the same time, he was a huge part of Cincy's super bowl run. Man, you gotta start paying attention. Reader was very disruptive in Houston.

4th best NT means he's top 5. I mean, are you deliberately being obtuse?

The 4th-best NT is like the 20th best DT. Idk why there would be that distinction. What even counts as an NT in that grade? Is it by alignment?

I don't even know what your point is or what you're arguing. I think he's a good player. If you want to give him $20m per year, go ahead.

 

[kskboys]

Sure. You don't need a big, 2-down 1T to be solid don the middle.

Offenses love when those guys are on the field, because you don't have to worry about them as passrushers.

I take it you're not aware of the term "pocket collapsing" and how much it means to a team?

 

[jterrell]

TOP doesn't matter in general, but is skewed by the 9ers only TD drive of the game which, of course, was aided by two garbage penalties that gave them first downs.

In the second half, the Cowboys had three possessions - they ran 16 plays and scored 3 points. The 9ers had 1 possession, ran 3 plays, and gained one yard. Dallas was dominating TOP to that point.

TOP very much matters if it is the opponent's game plan. 49ers are a physical team that looks to wear you down.
Dallas has a lot of fast, explosive defenders who get stuck on the field too long and end up hands on hips sucking wind.
Giving up 21 first downs for an offense that wasn't even attempting passes more than 15 yards down the field is really bad defensive play.

Football is not a complicated game at all.
SF won this game in the trenches.

They did that in 2021 as well.
Dallas spent the last TWO R1's on getting massive guys to combat just that.

Defensive Tackles are why the SEC is the SEC. Big guys up front that shut down the run is where defense starts.

Georgia had the top ranked defense and top ranked versus run and they had the only DT rated higher than Mazi Smith. A guy that was arguably the best overall player in the draft.

Michigan was able to upset Ohio State and ranked 7th in run defense with a big ugly in the middle.
That is basic football 101.
Mazi is here to boost Micah's and DLaw's stats.
Its why like 7 Cowboys defensive players immediately tweeted out support of the pick last night.

Mazi fits Dallas needs like a glove.

My top choice at 26 was Kancey. He was long gone but DT is BY FAR the weakest position on the Dallas Cowboys.
Would the Cowboys had been able to trade down to 31-36 and get him in a perfect world? Yes. But the team has needed a space eating DT for about 10 years straight and quality DTs are the hardest guys to find.

 

[kskboys]

The 4th-best NT is like the 20th best DT. Idk why there would be that distinction. What even counts as an NT in that grade? Is it by alignment?

I don't even know what your point is or what you're arguing. I think he's a good player. If you want to give him $20m per year, go ahead.

Sorry, your response still isn't making sense.

You keep getting crapp out of nowhere. 20 mil? Where'd that come from?

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I take it you're not aware of the term "pocket collapsing" and how much it means to a team?

I take it you're not aware of how it doesn't actually exist without guys who can penetrate.

The number of DTs who can, with any consistency, bullrush a G/C into the backfield is practically 0. Collapsing the pocket is, like I said, a myth.