Bob McGinn scouts comments on Mazi Smith

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No he's not. Osa is one of the, probably, 10-15 best DTs in the league.

Mazi, as he is right now, is just redundant with Hankins. It's nothing you don't have, and it's a skillset that doesn't really matter. However, if you draft him in the first round, the plan has to be to use him for much more than just stuffing the run. He's such a good athlete, they should ask him to lose a little bit of weight and be much more penetrating and disruptive.
yep.he is better off losing weight and play 3 tech with Hankins at the 1 on early downs.if he gets one on one he gets penetration a lot of times.
 

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I think this pick shows why people absolutely LOVE the NFL Draft and the drama that always unfolds. This pick also shows the many differences in opinions by the FO’s, scouts, etc. of the various teams. I just have this feeling that Mazi is gonna be the Zack Fredrick pick all over again…
Fred was the best center in the draft
 

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They need more than one one tech…
They don't need any, and drafting a pure 1T in the first round is really stupid.

That said, they might not have had a first-round grade on him. If you can get a productive player basically anywhere after 10 in this draft, it's a hit.
 

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yep.he is better off losing weight and play 3 tech with Hankins at the 1 on early downs.if he gets one on one he gets penetration a lot of times.
You never play those two together.

I don't care where he plays on early downs, that distinction doesn't really matter much. What he needs to be able to do is provide some push or penetration when he's paired with Osa or in a passrush package, regardless of how they're aligned.
 

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They don't need any, and drafting a pure 1T in the first round is really stupid.

That said, they might not have had a first-round grade on him. If you can get a productive player basically anywhere after 10 in this draft, it's a hit.
They don’t need any? Wow. Why do you feel this way? You think they just chose him for the hell of it? And his ceiling is more than just a two down 1 tech.
 

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Dak lost a football game to Brock Purdy who was the last pick in the draft.

I don’t know where the Dak confidence comes from at this point lol.

We’re in year 8 and the dude has played in an optimal situation since he stepped foot into the NFL but if we’re missing a MLB on defense it’s used as an excuse for Dak.

We need this team of perfection while oh by the way paying him the money to be the answer and not a problem.


The post was Moreso my belief that Levis isn’t going to be any good in the NFL
 

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Rams playoff game
49ers playoff game
Having the eagles in the division

It’s insane people are saying we don’t need run defense. This pick helps the other 6 guys in the front 7 as well
The only run defense that matters is scoring points. There is no such thing as a team that defends the run but can't score.
 

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They don’t need any? Wow. Why do you feel this way? You think they just chose him for the hell of it? And his ceiling is more than just a two down 1 tech.
B/c 1T is a position that doesn't matter. No team is better because of them.

But yes, I already said that I think his ceiling is higher than that, and it's a fine pick if he can do more than be a 1T. It's just projection.
 

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I think the team feels like we have way more talent at those positions that Porter Jr and Nolan Smith play than we do at DT. Drafting a DT also shows a philosophy change that the team is serious about winning football now than just picking a splash player. They drafted someone who is big and can stop the run.

Technically he looks like a 'needs' pick, except unlike Taco or Trystan Hill, there's no red flags. Taco didn't pop off on tape at all. Trystan Hill had work ethic concerns. Mazi's biggest concern is that there were other flashier players we could have had instead. He's not a finesse player and not undersized for his position.

You can find bad tape on anyone. There's games where even Jalen Carter look that impressive.
 

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“He’s stiff. He doesn’t shed blockers or move to the ball very well.
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this is what i saw and didnt want him for this reason
a lot of times he gets taken to the ground by a guard,he gets easily moved by double teams.people expecting our run defense to magically get better with him are not going to be happy.
He’s a run stuffer. Having a run stuffer is important because it helps the LB’s on play action. But using the 26th pick for a guy who won’t be on the field as much is my issue
I trust Quinn to get the most out of him but in 39 games he made almost no plays behind the LOS scrimmage is a guy who’s not getting penetration so no impact on pass plays
 

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B/c 1T is a position that doesn't matter. No team is better because of them.

But yes, I already said that I think his ceiling is higher than that, and it's a fine pick if he can do more than be a 1T. It's just projection.
A good one tech can impact games. One who can push the pocket helps the edge guys. A guy who gets penetration can impact games. Smith isn’t that guy. He will hold the line and tackle the guy as he goes by. He made very, very few plays in the backfield
 

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He’s a run stuffer. Having a run stuffer is important because it helps the LB’s on play action. But using the 26th pick for a guy who won’t be on the field as much is my issue
I trust Quinn to get the most out of him but in 39 games he made almost no plays behind the LOS scrimmage is a guy who’s not getting penetration so no impact on pass plays
Ok, and one of these DE's probably wouldnt have been in on first down. Dont get all scientific about it. ITs not a sexy pick, but its 100% our biggest need. If this kid can come in and play two downs and clog up the run its what we have never had and needed the most.
 

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A good one tech can impact games. One who can push the pocket helps the edge guys. A guy who gets penetration can impact games. Smith isn’t that guy. He will hold the line and tackle the guy as he goes by. He made very, very few plays in the backfield
A good 1T is not a guy who can push the pocket or get penetration, those guys all play 3T on money downs.

I say it's projection because Smith didn't really do much of that in college, but he's a good enough athlete to.
 
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