Boise State Vs. VT

[casmith07]

Quote the whole post, not just the pieces that make it work for you.

 

[Doomsday101]

You obviously have not followed Boise State at all. They have been actively working to get into a better conference for the better part of the decade. They would have down backflips if the Pac-10 would have invited them. They would have done backflips if the Big XII had invited them. In the end, the Mountain West did invite them and it took them two seconds to accept. The Pac-10 didn't think that Boise academics were a fit (which is true) and the Big-12 doesn't think that the Boise Valley would bring enough television sets to bring value to their TV deal.

We, as Cowboys fans, don't like it when people say ignorant things about our Cowboys, so how about you don't say ignorant things about other teams.

I understand the strength of schedule thing and if a SEC team has one loss and the Big-12 team has one loss I will be the first guy to say that those two teams deserve the NC game over an undefeated Boise, but this ignorant hate on Boise is not needed.

I agree. I also agree with the sports radio talk this morning when they said Boise and TCU are prime examples of why we need a playoff system in college football. All the talk about a weak conference would be a moot point if a playoff system was put in place.

 

[Hoofbite]

It is their fault. They could actively petition to join a conference where they'll routinely play tough talent, like the Pac 10 or the Big XII.

Oregon State being ranked #24 is a far cry from playing top tier talent.

If they were to join the Pac-10 they would routinely have to play USC, Cal, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, and then I want to see them schedule their out of conference games against teams like Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma and have ROUTINE success, not one-hit-wonder games where they win by 3 points or a last second touchdown. Blowout wins.

They're in the WAC. They shouldn't even be considered for Top 10.

They have tried.

The had an open date for next season and issued an open challenge to any team in the country. Any time, any place and as far as I remember, nobody accepted it. Nobody wants to play them and if it is an out-of-conference game, nobody can be forced to play them.

Also, I think I remember Nebraska puffing their chest and saying Boise State doesn't play anyone. Boise came back and said that they would be willing to go to Nebraska and play them and Nebraska promptly shut up.

Boise has practically begged teams to play them and teams don't want to.

You can only play who is on your schedule and if nobody has the sack to hop on the schedule, what are you supposed to do?

Doesn't really matter though. Lets just pretend that Boise were to get a National Championship spot, they still have to play one of the BCS darlings and Boise isn't good enough to win, right?

It's funny that there be can so much confidence in a BCS school but nobody wants to see any little school even get the shot. TCU and Boise should have played big schools last year but they were screwed. The BCS is a joke. They huff and puff about how great all their automatic bid conferences are and yet they are scared ****less of letting a smaller school getting a shot.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I think both those teams last night were overranked. I like Boise's story like most people, but there's no way that was the third best football team in the country.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think both those teams last night were overranked. I like Boise's story like most people, but there's no way that was the third best football team in the country.

Who knows right now who the best is.

 

[CATCH17]

I think both those teams last night were overranked. I like Boise's story like most people, but there's no way that was the third best football team in the country.

Boise State can beat anyone in a head to head matchup.

They may not be as physically superior as some teams but they are mentally superior than a lot of teams.

They play GREAT team football and are extremely well coached.



If College football had a playoff they probably wouldn't win it. Maybe they would.... But for 1 game they can beat anybody.


They are 1 of the best teams to watch imo because of how fundamentally sound they are.

 

[Kolemmitt]

It is their fault. They could actively petition to join a conference where they'll routinely play tough talent, like the Pac 10 or the Big XII.

Oregon State being ranked #24 is a far cry from playing top tier talent.

If they were to join the Pac-10 they would routinely have to play USC, Cal, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, and then I want to see them schedule their out of conference games against teams like Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma and have ROUTINE success, not one-hit-wonder games where they win by 3 points or a last second touchdown. Blowout wins.

They're in the WAC. They shouldn't even be considered for Top 10.

There, I quoted the whole post.

You still were dead wrong on the first part.

As to your second part, read through a few of these articles, BSU is not working the system, the system has been working BSU and non-AQ teams like Utah, BYU, and TCU for years.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-boise110709

http://www.associatedcontent.com/ar...ten_and_boise_state_a_perfect_pg2.html?cat=14

http://www.acuoptimist.com/2009/12/...eeds-a-playoff-system-to-determine-champions/

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4642585

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Boise State can beat anyone in a head to head matchup.

They may not be as physically superior as some teams but they are mentally superior than a lot of teams.

They play GREAT team football and are extremely well coached.



If College football had a playoff they probably wouldn't win it. Maybe they would.... But for 1 game they can beat anybody.


They are 1 of the best teams to watch imo because of how fundamentally sound they are.

I don't know, Catch... They missed a lot of tackles and got physically run over last night. And that's by a VT team that isn't that great.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't know, Catch... They missed a lot of tackles and got physically run over last night. And that's by a VT team that isn't that great.

Physically ran over? VT QB had some nice runs other than that VT was not getting much off of Boise. Williams for VT had 21 carries for 44 yards on the night 2.1 avg is not exactly physically dominating.

 

[Kangaroo]

Boise would love to go to a Bigger Conference but lets be real the NCAA can say what ever it want's but this is all amount money and the have vs the have nots.

The Big Power conferences is all about money; be it tv deals;stadiums and Bowl $$$$

So large Alumni Base is required and TV market matters

It does not matter how good your program is if you do not meet those basic concepts that bring A large TV market by having a large Alumni base in a region that it does not already cover and has to make sense then you are not getting into a power conference.

 

[Muhast]

I am not impressed with Boise St beating a team that has lost at least three games in each of the last four seasons. I want to see them play Nebraska, Iowa, Florida or Oregon later in the schedule instead of these stupid preseason games that don't matter to these third tier schools.

They would have beaten the FLA team that showed up last Saturday by 20+.

Florida put up 25 yards of offense heading into the 4th quarter, against Mia (OH) who only won 1 game last year.

 

[Kangaroo]

Let's not forget that was basically a home game for Va Tech

 

[Doomsday101]

Let's not forget that was basically a home game for Va Tech

That was the 1st thing that impressed me was the size of the crowd that Boise had to contend with and yet they came out and hit VT right in the mouth. I give VT credit for keeping it together and not letting it get out of hand but Boise looked good and did not need trick plays to put points on the board.

 

[LatinMind]

You obviously have not followed Boise State at all. They have been actively working to get into a better conference for the better part of the decade. They would have down backflips if the Pac-10 would have invited them. They would have done backflips if the Big XII had invited them. In the end, the Mountain West did invite them and it took them two seconds to accept. The Pac-10 didn't think that Boise academics were a fit (which is true) and the Big-12 doesn't think that the Boise Valley would bring enough television sets to bring value to their TV deal.

We, as Cowboys fans, don't like it when people say ignorant things about our Cowboys, so how about you don't say ignorant things about other teams.

I understand the strength of schedule thing and if a SEC team has one loss and the Big-12 team has one loss I will be the first guy to say that those two teams deserve the NC game over an undefeated Boise, but this ignorant hate on Boise is not needed.

nicely put. teams like boise, utah, byu, fresno state have more wins against top 10 teams then 95% of the teams annually ranked in the top 25 just because of the league they play in.

 

[Doomsday101]

nicely put. teams like boise, utah, byu, fresno state have more wins against top 10 teams then 95% of the teams annually ranked in the top 25 just because of the league they play in.

True the deal is they do not have to face ranked opponents as often. When you have a schedule were your facing 3 or 4 ranked teams in a row knowing you have to be on your A game to get through it that is hard. When you face 1 or 2 ranked teams within a season months apart that is much easier to deal with. I take nothing away from Boise however I think Boise is the prime example of why we need a college playoff system in place so that all doubts are removed.

 

[Cythim]

They would have beaten the FLA team that showed up last Saturday by 20+.

Florida put up 25 yards of offense heading into the 4th quarter, against Mia (OH) who only won 1 game last year.

I have no doubt that BSU can beat any team that is in preseason mode while the Broncos are already in playoff mode. Put the game later in the season when both teams are firing on all cylinders and the outcome will be completely different.

 

[LatinMind]

True the deal is they do not have to face ranked opponents as often. When you have a schedule were your facing 3 or 4 ranked teams in a row knowing you have to be on your A game to get through it that is hard. When you face 1 or 2 ranked teams within a season months apart that is much easier to deal with. I take nothing away from Boise however I think Boise is the prime example of why we need a college playoff system in place so that all doubts are removed.

i dont buy into the first part of your statement. they still have to win the game. but i think there needs to be a playoff too. but its all about the money yet they wont let college players get a peice of that. hypocrits

 

[Doomsday101]

i dont buy into the first part of your statement. they still have to win the game. but i think there needs to be a playoff too. but its all about the money yet they wont let college players get a peice of that. hypocrits

Sure they have to win the games but it is not as if they are facing top ranked teams week in and week out that is hard to for a coach to keep that team playing top football. When all you have to face is 1 ranked team 2 at the most and the rest of your games are pushover that makes it much easier. A playoff system would give Boise what they need a legit chance at a National Title because to get it you will have to beat top ranked teams consecutively to get it. Right now Boise had all off season to get ready for 1 game knowing that if they win it then they are BCS bound.

 

[LatinMind]

Sure they have to win the games but it is not as if they are facing top ranked teams week in and week out that is hard to for a coach to keep that team playing top football. When all you have to face is 1 ranked team 2 at the most and the rest of your games are pushover that makes it much easier. A playoff system would give Boise what they need a legit chance at a National Title because to get it you will have to beat top ranked teams consecutively to get it. Right now Boise had all off season to get ready for 1 game knowing that if they win it then they are BCS bound.

for teams like boise its harder cause if they dont win by 60 they fall in ranking

 

[Bizwah]

Sure they have to win the games but it is not as if they are facing top ranked teams week in and week out that is hard to for a coach to keep that team playing top football. When all you have to face is 1 ranked team 2 at the most and the rest of your games are pushover that makes it much easier. A playoff system would give Boise what they need a legit chance at a National Title because to get it you will have to beat top ranked teams consecutively to get it. Right now Boise had all off season to get ready for 1 game knowing that if they win it then they are BCS bound.

I think there's a lot of validity to this.

Last night was basically BSU's Super Bowl. Just like last year when they played Oregon. They really can let it hang out for that first game because they don't have to worry so much about any kind of challenge from their conference.

They're a fun team to watch, but simply pointing to one game is not good enough. I think a team with one loss from the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, is more impressive than a BSU team that goes undefeated and beats one or two teams (Oregon St. is next) from a power conference.

I love BSU...as I said, my cousin was a prof there. But they really present a ton of issues for the BCS. I don't think it's fair for them, the power conferences, or the fans of college football to NOT have a playoff.