Book growing on Dak?

[haleyrules]

I don't disagree, Haley. I was confounded that we went with such a high risk play in such an important game, on a pivotal down... but it was a catch!!! and an amazing throw.

Still, I can't disagree if I'm being fully objective, my brudda.

This is why a lot of the older fans are happy with Prescotts arrival. I, also, thought it was a catch!! Sadly, history will say otherwise!!

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Trouty. That play to Bryant should never been called. The Cowboys needed a first down only..better to pass it to Witten or a slot reciever...Let Murray run. Get closer...kill more clock.Tony made tbe worst possible call...no doubt changed it at the line. If Bryant scores, which he didn't...there was almost 5 minutes left in the game and the ball back in Rodgers hands. This is the bad judgement that people have always blamed Romo for. The worst call at the worst time. That throw to Bryant was unexplainable. That type of call will be Tony Romo's legacy.

Very interesting points haley. An argument can be made either way but I can't say I disagree with the "kill shot" there. Definitely a strong play when you have #88 one on one... it was no contest whatsoever with shields on a perfectly thrown pass. I can't knock Romo here. Should have been a completion but it wasn't. The rest is history. Maybe the defense holds? Who knows.

 

[Diehardblues]

If you took away Romo's mobility extending plays with Improv he wouldn't have made the impact he did at least early on.

 

[haleyrules]

You do realize this will not go over well on this board right?

lol. However, there was no baiting or nastiness intended. Just an observation.

 

[tyke1doe]

Trouty. You will not agree..but Prescott is a better technical and fundamentals QB than Romo...NOW. He reads the defenses much faster and makes better decisions. He only lacks NFL experience.

What makes you think he reads defenses much faster than Romo?
I don't think that's even possible, given his level of inexperience compared to Tony's years of experience.

 

[Trouty]

If you took away Romo's mobility extending plays with Improv he wouldn't have made the impact he did at least early on.

What does this mean, Blues? lol that's part of what made Romo, Romo.

 

[tyke1doe]

Absolutely correct, don't forget, it took over three seasons before Romo was ever trusted to throw his first regular season pass.

And it would have taken Dak that much time too if not for Romo's injury. Remember, the Cowboys weren't going to start Dak. They were going to let him sit and learn. But then Moore went down. And then Tony went down ...

Tony Romo's achilles heal is revealed in the most important play of the season, the one that absolutely has to be made by Romo, the play that determines if there is another game to play.

Romo has made his share of important plays. We've never really been in a playoff game where it came down to a play by Romo - if you exclude the Dez "No Catch," which really wasn't Romo's fault.

He has never made that play. Dak will make that play which is why he must continue to start.

We shall see.

 

[Jstopper]

Trouty. You will not agree..but Prescott is a better technical and fundamentals QB than Romo...NOW. He reads the defenses much faster and makes better decisions. He only lacks NFL experience.

You drinking early this morning huh?

 

[tyke1doe]

Trouty. That play to Bryant should never been called. The Cowboys needed a first down only..better to pass it to Witten or a slot reciever...Let Murray run. Get closer...kill more clock.Tony made tbe worst possible call...no doubt changed it at the line. If Bryant scores, which he didn't...there was almost 5 minutes left in the game and the ball back in Rodgers hands. This is the bad judgement that people have always blamed Romo for. The worst call at the worst time. That throw to Bryant was unexplainable. That type of call will be Tony Romo's legacy.

If I recall correctly, the Packers were showing blitz, leaving Dez in man coverage. Witten didn't have time to get out in the pattern and neither did Tony have time to wait for an underneath receiver. Since Dez had one-on-one coverage, Romo (correctly) decides to throw the ball to him. It just didn't work out because of the reverse call.

And the biggest play in that game, and the turning point play was Murray's fumble when he should have been running to the end zone giving us a double digit lead.

That wasn't on Romo.

 

[dogunwo]

I think Romo's biggest issue (when he came back last year) was that his mind and heart told him he could still play like he did 4 or 5 years ago, but his body did not let him. Can he change his style of play when/if he comes back? Dak has shown great deal of patience and plays within himself and the offense. He has not pressed to make the big play, therefore, has avoided the big mistake.

And he has also avoided the big play (except for Brice Butler letting him down). Its worth it now, because we are 5-1.

 

[Trouty]

You drinking early this morning huh?

J, my man, Haley is an amazing poster and bleeds Cowboys, he also isn't drinking this early. He usually waits for the evenings, whereas I am an early morning drinker Beer for breakfast type guy

He isn't wrong when he says that Dak makes better (safer) decisions. But I disagree with him about reading defenses.

But I'll let Haley respond to you, and I promise you it will be kind and compassionate. He isn't like a lot of the guys on this board who can't handle debate.

 

[bayeslife]

Trouty. You will not agree..but Prescott is a better technical and fundamentals QB than Romo...NOW. He reads the defenses much faster and makes better decisions. He only lacks NFL experience.

Dak doesn't read pre snap as well as Romo but he's a field general out there after the snap

 

[CowboyRoy]

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/...owboys-dak-prescott-has-to-show-staying-power
Great comparison to Romo in 2006. Hope for different results. Dak has a better supporting cast.

Sure he does. He just won the last 3 games without Dez Bryant. Up until this year, the other receives were middling and 2nd rate. Dak is making them look great now.

 

[Jstopper]

J, my man, Haley is an amazing poster and bleeds Cowboys, he also isn't drinking this early. He usually waits for the evenings, whereas I am an early morning drinker Beer for breakfast type guy

He isn't wrong when he says that Dak makes better (safer) decisions. But I disagree with him about reading defenses.

But I'll let Haley respond to you, and I promise you it will be kind and compassionate. He isn't like a lot of the guys on this board who can't handle debate.

Dak may make the safer reads, but that limits our offense because he doesn't take any chances, and sometimes you need to take chances. And He definitely doesn't read the field as fast as Romo can. That's why Romo can make presnap adjustments because he understands what he sees out there.

 

[Diehardblues]

What does this mean, Blues? lol that's part of what made Romo, Romo.

In comparisons of Dak who isn't having to perform as such. He's more of a traditional style drop back QB. He wasn't in college but so far in NFL .

The bigger discusssion might be was Romo forced into his sandlot play or was that just his style and making plays on the fly was what he was all about?

 

[Trouty]

Dak may make the safer reads, but that limits our offense because he doesn't take any chances, and sometimes you need to take chances. And He definitely doesn't read the field as fast as Romo can. That's why Romo can make presnap adjustments because he understands what he sees out there.

I completely agree, J.

 

[Trouty]

In comparisons of Dak who isn't having to perform as such. He's more of a traditional style drop back QB.

The bigger discusssion might be was Romo forced into his sandlot play or was that just his style and making plays on the fly was what he was all about?

He isn't a traditional style drop back QB (Aikman, Brady) until he starts taking snaps from behind center (but his upside is every bit in their league, imo, and he compares nicely to both of those guys, with a bit more athleticism sprinkled in).

The second paragraph is a very interesting question, I think it was a combination of both (forced into it, but also his style)

 

[tyke1doe]

Dak doesn't read pre snap as well as Romo but he's a field general out there after the snap

I would agree with this. I think it's ridiculous to suggest that Dak reads the field better than Romo or even that he reads defenses better than Romo.

I think where Dak is better than Romo is playing not to make a mistake and not having a pre-determined receiver to get the ball to. I think Romo is like Favre; he's not necessarily focused on throwing to the "safe" receiver. He's looking for the big play. He will make more big plays in the passing game because of this, but he will also make more mistakes. He and Favre are/were gunslingers. That's the way they play. It's in their DNA.

Also, one of the things about veteran quarterbacks is that they build trust with certain receivers, which leads them to favor that receiver above all others. I remember Aikman was particular about this. If you dropped the ball or weren't at the spot you were supposed to be, you wouldn't get another pass from Aikman.

I, personally, believe one of the reasons Beasley is doing better now than he did in previous years is because Tony was more conditioned to go to Witten and Dez than Beasley. This year, you're seeing a Dak who hasn't developed a favorite receiver yet (well, now he is with Beasley), finding the open man or throwing where his read takes him.

And this will serve him in his career. I don't think Tony started out the same way. And once happens are ingrained, they're hard to break.

 

[erod]

Trouty. You will not agree..but Prescott is a better technical and fundamentals QB than Romo...NOW. He reads the defenses much faster and makes better decisions. He only lacks NFL experience.

That is absolutely not true. Romo sees the game many, many levels above where Dak does. In fact, there are only a small handful of QBs who ever achieve Romo's understanding of reading defenses.

Dak is having success because of the incredible time he's getting and because he has the best running game in football. Dallas is out-executing everything, so no magic is needed from the QB. Linehan is doing a great job.

In fact, Mark Sanchez could play well in this system right now. Dak is doing a great job of playing composed and making the plays needed. But he doesn't see the game like Romo. Not even remotely close.

 

[HanD]

Absolutely correct, don't forget, it took over three seasons before Romo was ever trusted to throw his first regular season pass.

However, the greatest, most critical difference will be shown in January.

Tony Romo's achilles heal is revealed in the most important play of the season, the one that absolutely has to be made by Romo, the play that determines if there is another game to play.

He has never made that play. Dak will make that play which is why he must continue to start.

never made that play? really, the same old narrative espn put out 3 or 4 years ago?