Book growing on Dak?

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plasticman with the strawman comments.

Just the last time they played in January....led the entire league in QB rating in the playoffs.
2 games:
  1. Game-winning drive and TD pass in the first round playoff game....the very definition of "that play"
  2. Late game go-ahead pass vs GB in the 2nd game....overturned. But no denying that the pass was there.

Plus the SO MANY other times he has delivered on game-winning drives
The sad part DFWJC is that most fans know this but are willfully ignorant and have agendas and with the success Dak is having right now it gives the Romo detractors even more fuel to add to the flames.
 

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I think Romo's biggest issue (when he came back last year) was that his mind and heart told him he could still play like he did 4 or 5 years ago, but his body did not let him. Can he change his style of play when/if he comes back? Dak has shown great deal of patience and plays within himself and the offense. He has not pressed to make the big play, therefore, has avoided the big mistake.

Good points, if Romo can have double digit leads and Defense playing decent , i guess he will also be content to hand the ball to Zeke ( as he did to Murray in 2014) and watch him run ( Egg's the Slacker picture , LOL )

I guess the important aspect of our win streak is Defense playing with tenacity and not succmbing fast . How many countless times we have seen offense take a lead , only to see defense surrender points quickly and we have to go all again ?
 

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The book has grown on Dak. From no fumbles or interceptions in his first 4 games, to 4 fumbles, 2 lost and 1 interception in his last 2 games. By some miracle Zack Martin managed to recover 1 Dak fumble, or it'd be 4 turnovers in his last 2 games. '

Now, those turnovers didn't cost us, the defense came through each time, and the offense just kept on cruising. But if it's a growing trend that Dak is going to fumble the ball 2-3 times a game that'll mostly be to defenses doing a better job of reading him and getting pressure on him.

That interception on the pass to Witten vs. the Packers was not just an inaccurate pass, that defender was crowding the window hoping Dak would come there with the ball and got his wish.
 

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Trouty. You will not agree..but Prescott is a better technical and fundamentals QB than Romo...NOW. He reads the defenses much faster and makes better decisions. He only lacks NFL experience.

My vote's been on Dak...and I like most of your posts...but wow this post is a fumble.

Dak is more cautious and consistent...and DP is quite possibly a better match for the offense. But better reading defenses? Hell that's just uninformed.

Romo is a speed reader of the whole field. Dak is still a rookie...usually running after the first couple of looks.
 

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Love this quote from our rook --

“I’ve got to stay ahead [of the defense] regardless, no matter what number of games this is in my season or in my career,” Prescott said. “That’s what’s gotten me to this level: It’s preparing, watching the defenses, and that’s what I’ll continue to do.”

His preparation is second to none (according the coaching staff and Jerruh), so as defenses adapt and prepare for Dak, our phenom is doing the same. He has ice water in his veins :)

The aspect of his commitment to the game is far above what the average rookie does. It's especially so, in terms of preparation. Most rookies flounder through their initial year, making numerous miscues whenever game time comes rolling around. Not so with Prescott. His mindset and devotion to mastering all fazes of the game reminds me, to a great extent, of Tom Brady.

I'm also extremely encouraged by the way he devotes himself to learning how to cope with the various stunts that defenses are prone to throwing at young, flegling rookies who normally have serious problems dealing with the pressure. I'm anticipating very good, if not great, things to come for Dak in the future. I think many of the more optimistic Cowboys fans feel much the same. He's certainly displaying every indication of being highly successful thus far in his career. To top it all off, the Dallas FO isn't rushing Romo back into the fray, which is surely a blessing to him and his ongoing health.
 
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plasticman with the strawman comments.

Just the last time they played in January....led the entire league in QB rating in the playoffs.
2 games:
  1. Game-winning drive and TD pass in the first round playoff game....the very definition of "that play"
  2. Late game go-ahead pass vs GB in the 2nd game....overturned. But no denying that the pass was there.

Plus the SO MANY other times he has delivered on game-winning drives
Yeah, well you know what?........You're right.

You are absolutely right, no conditions attached, no disclaimers, no offhand remark to minimize the fact.....you are right, I completely forgot about 2014.

Romo made the 4th quarter throw that scored against the Lions. He did what he had ro do and thats why they were able to play against the Packers the following week.

He made the play he had to make against the Packers too. The entire franchise and their fans were robbbed point blank, but Romo did what he had to do.

With that said, I just dont think they should change anything right now, why fix what isnt broken.

This is not a criticism of Romo. I think we dont need him until......we need him.

The old veteran, pushed aside, considered a has been, now forced to watch the new brash young star shine...like a new toy, Dak is Buzz Lightyear to Tony's Woody.

But what's this? The young annointed star is struggling in the NFC Championship game against the hated "insert team", 3 INT's in the first half. Coach decides to make a change.

The Cowboys come out for the 2nd half down 24-10. They get the ball first. To everyone's surprise in comes Tony Romo. The crowd is silent at first, unsure of what they are about to see, as if waiting for some sign.

They get it in the very first play as Tony backpeddles, dodges a potential sack and unloads deep, very deep, where we see Dez just in front of his defender and a safety on an intercept course. But the safety is too late, the ball lands perfectly in Dez's hand and two strides later it is TD.

Tony's first pass of the season is an 82 yard bomb to open the 2nd half of the NFC Championship games.

The crowd goes wild.....for a Cowboy homegame crowd.

The story is not over yet, legend must wait, there are still a few chapters left.

There......are we good now?
 

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Trouty. That play to Bryant should never been called. The Cowboys needed a first down only..better to pass it to Witten or a slot reciever...Let Murray run. Get closer...kill more clock.Tony made tbe worst possible call...no doubt changed it at the line. If Bryant scores, which he didn't...there was almost 5 minutes left in the game and the ball back in Rodgers hands. This is the bad judgement that people have always blamed Romo for. The worst call at the worst time. That throw to Bryant was unexplainable. That type of call will be Tony Romo's legacy.
Exactly. I don't like that play at all. You get a first down there, and kill at least 2-3 minutes more before a TD. I would probably goto Beasley in that situation
 

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Trouty. You will not agree..but Prescott is a better technical and fundamentals QB than Romo...NOW. He reads the defenses much faster and makes better decisions. He only lacks NFL experience.

Im probably the biggest Dak fan on the board and a staunch "Keep Romo on the bench" activist, but Trouty is going to disagree because its simply not true.
 

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Absolutely correct, don't forget, it took over three seasons before Romo was ever trusted to throw his first regular season pass.

However, the greatest, most critical difference will be shown in January.

Tony Romo's achilles heal is revealed in the most important play of the season, the one that absolutely has to be made by Romo, the play that determines if there is another game to play.

He has never made that play. Dak will make that play which is why he must continue to start.

its like fans of this team haven't been watching the actual games.
 

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Their book isn't going to slow down Zeke or cover Dallas' receivers.
 

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He may make better decisions, so I don't disagree with you there, but you were kinda right (about my disagreeing with you :)) , as I don't think he's there, yet, at reading defenses faster. He's missed a few guys that Romo would have surely hit (namely on the deeper routes -- maybe that's reading the field, as opposed to defenses?).

He's getting there, Haley, and I think his ceiling is sky high. As 31 said above you, I heart Dak :)
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Love this quote from our rook --

“I’ve got to stay ahead [of the defense] regardless, no matter what number of games this is in my season or in my career,” Prescott said. “That’s what’s gotten me to this level: It’s preparing, watching the defenses, and that’s what I’ll continue to do.”

His preparation is second to none (according the coaching staff and Jerruh), so as defenses adapt and prepare for Dak, our phenom is doing the same. He has ice water in his veins :)
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Trouty. You will not agree..but Prescott is a better technical and fundamentals QB than Romo...NOW. He reads the defenses much faster and makes better decisions. He only lacks NFL experience.

That's just ridiculous. Is OK to have an emotional connection to a player and want to see them play but that statement is just ridiculous. You are either clouded because you hate Romo or have and emotional connection to Dak or you just don't know football. I suspect its a little of all three.
 

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To respond to the original title of the thread...of course the book is growing on Prescott. He has played 6 games in the regular season so DCs are learning his tendencies. No different than the book grows on all QBs in the League.

Hopefully, Prescott continues to develop and grow. Romo still tweaks something every off season and he is a 4 time Pro Bowl QB that was named a starter in the League 10yrs ago. Prescott hopefully will do the same...only way to become elite is to keep working on his craft and asking questions of those with more knowledge than him.
 

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The book has grown on Dak. From no fumbles or interceptions in his first 4 games, to 4 fumbles, 2 lost and 1 interception in his last 2 games. By some miracle Zack Martin managed to recover 1 Dak fumble, or it'd be 4 turnovers in his last 2 games. '

Now, those turnovers didn't cost us, the defense came through each time, and the offense just kept on cruising. But if it's a growing trend that Dak is going to fumble the ball 2-3 times a game that'll mostly be to defenses doing a better job of reading him and getting pressure on him.

That interception on the pass to Witten vs. the Packers was not just an inaccurate pass, that defender was crowding the window hoping Dak would come there with the ball and got his wish.

Dude ... you make this sound soooooooooooooooooooooo bad. Lol... I don't think fumbles can be attributed to any type of growing "trend".. He got stripped pretty clean in the Cincy and GB games based on great pressure and timing. Another fumble in the GB game was just "dumb" luck.. ball just slipped out. Yes.. we were fortunate to get that one back. Honestly I don't remember a 4th.. He has one interception in 7 games and just set a record by Tom Brady to start a career. Are you really gonna preach to us about Dak's ball security? C'mon... you're so transparent right now..
 

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Dude ... you make this sound soooooooooooooooooooooo bad. Lol... I don't think fumbles can be attributed to any type of growing "trend".. He got stripped pretty clean in the Cincy and GB games based on great pressure and timing. Another fumble in the GB game was just "dumb" luck.. ball just slipped out. Yes.. we were fortunate to get that one back. Honestly I don't remember a 4th.. He has one interception in 7 games and just set a record by Tom Brady to start a career. Are you really gonna preach to us about Dak's ball security? C'mon... you're so transparent right now..

Wut?

Are you denying it is a fact that:

1. Dak had no turnovers in his first four games and
2. In his last 2 games he fumbled 4 times, lost 2 of them and threw an interception?

Because if you won't take it from me, how about NFL.com?

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Wut?

Are you denying it is a fact that:

1. Dak had no turnovers in his first four games and
2. In his last 2 games he fumbled 4 times, lost 2 of them and threw an interception?

Because if you won't take it from me, how about NFL.com?

dak.jpg



No.... I believe it... but you're so transparent. Obviously you're a big advocate of Tony Romo starting asap. Just the way you framed it like some big problematic trend... An int.. was bound to happen at some point. All he did was break a record. And the fumbles... c'mon..
 

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No.... I believe it... but you're so transparent. Obviously you're a big advocate of Tony Romo starting asap. Just the way you framed it like some big problematic trend... An int.. was bound to happen at some point. All he did was break a record. And the fumbles... c'mon..

The thread is about defenses having more success against Dak now that they have more film of him in action. Every NFL QB goes through this, it's part of the growing pains.

We played better defenses the past 2 weeks, and they had a better handle on how we're using Dak. So no real surprise he goes from 0 fumbles and 0 int's in 4 games to 4 fumbles and 1 int in his last 2.

And nobody hopes more than I do that he makes it through the Eagles game without giving up a turnover.
 

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The thread is about defenses having more success against Dak now that they have more film of him in action. Every NFL QB goes through this, it's part of the growing pains.

We played better defenses the past 2 weeks, and they had a better handle on how we're using Dak. So no real surprise he goes from 0 fumbles and 0 int's in 4 games to 4 fumbles and 1 int in his last 2.

And nobody hopes more than I do that he makes it through the Eagles game without giving up a turnover.


Fair but one of those fumbles slipped randomly. The INT I don't think was the result of film study or the defense confusing Dak. I think it was a miscommunication between Jason and Dak and just a poor decision by Dak. The other two fumbles were just clean strip sacks due to defensive pressure in the pocket. The result of the DL winning a matchup and getting to the QB. I'm not sure we can attribute this "a growing book on Dak".. it was pressure in the pocket. It happens. I understand these things happened just appears to be a real reach to frame this as part of a "growing book".. Of course the man isn't infallible.
 
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